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To call the police on my brother

67 replies

JoesM12 · 17/08/2020 19:02

My brother and I had a great relationship growing up. We were really close and did a lot together. He’s 4 years older than me and when he got a long term girlfriend in his early 20’s we sort of drifted apart.
Anyway, his new girlfriend (they’ve been together 2 years on and off) fell pregnant in November last year after a month of them getting back together (again) after she left him after he’d been sleeping with someone else.
I never got involved in their relationship because I never knew the whole detail of what was going on and didn’t feel it was my place.
Back in July his girlfriend, 8 months pregnant, messaged me to say they’re having serious problems. That he’s been really controlling, telling her what she can and can not wear etc, telling her to shut up when she tries to talk to him etc. I spoke to her about it for comfort but it didn’t go much further.
Yesterday I had some more messages from her. Their baby is now 10 days old. Saying she had had enough. He was threatening to leave and take the baby because she asked him to go stay with friends for a few days. And she was scared to sleep incase he did take the baby. He said he was going to post nude photos of her online. He demands to be made breakfast. He does nothing for the baby and hasn’t even bought a pack of nappies. Her friend had to bring them nappies on Saturday because he wouldn’t go out and get some.
She said she didn’t even ask him to move in he just brought all his stuff to her flat one day after giving up his tenancy apparently to be there for her and the baby (more because he doesn’t want to pay for bills and rent on his own flat)
He apparently told her two days after giving birth “I don’t care if you’ve just given birth, you still have wife duties”
They aren’t married. He doesn’t work and actually quit his job while she was pregnant because he didn’t get on with his boss?!
They now live in her flat which she only got as a result of him kicking her out of his flat 6 months pregnant forcing her to go to the council and declare her self homeless.
His girlfriend is a really lovely girl and is 6 years younger than him. She asked me to try and speak to him.
I went round to try and talk to him like an adult and offer my help. As soon as I said he can’t be threatening to take the baby and leave he flipped.
Accusing me of all sorts. That everything that was happening was my fault for getting involved.
I’m very fortunate to be in a very loving relationship and my husband came with me for support for me and for my brothers girlfriend. He tried to talk to my brother but he wasn’t having any of it.
His girlfriend persistently asked him to leave because by this point he had became very aggressive, threatening and tormeatful towards me and her.
My brother has a history of being very verbally aggressive and has physically assaulted my mum in the past. For which now of course she and I have very little to do with him.
So yesterday he refused to leave and said the only way we’d get him out is by phoning the police. I don’t think he expected us to call his bluff. I then told him that’s what I’d do. If I was his partner there was no way I’d feel safe being alone with him last night so I wasnt prepared to leave knowing he was still there.
In the end his girlfriend called the police. I think she was scared of his reaction at first If she did but ultimately I think she realised it was the best thing for them all.
I encouraged her to call the police and now I don’t know if I feel guilty for aggravating the situation. I never once raised my voice or became aggressive towards him but I don’t know if I’ve done the right thing confronting him.
I felt an urge to protect as I am a mother myself and I know how vulnerable those first few weeks can be, never mind having an abbusive partner on top of that.
I’m not sure what I’m asking but I’d like to know what others would do in my situation?

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Scotmummy1216 · 17/08/2020 20:56

Newborn and vulnerable new mum, phone the police. Sorry to hear you are in this position

ttigerlilly · 17/08/2020 21:00

You did the right thing 1000%. I know he is your brother but he has acted hideously and his actions deserve consequences. I feel so sorry for his girlfriend, it's terribly sad that she is having to go through this during what should be such a happy time. What's most important is keeping the baby in the safest and happiest environment possible, thankfully you and your husband sound wonderful Thanks

Malaya · 17/08/2020 21:00

Awful situation to be in. You 100% did the right thing. Tbh, it was the only choice to make under the circumstances.

Now that the police and social services are involved, she will get some practical help. If you can be there for her then do so. Her child is your niece and you have to do what’s best for that baby.

QuacksInTheDark · 17/08/2020 21:00

You owe your brother nothing. He’s not a brother to you is he? So fuck him and well
done for doing what you did.

AdoraBell · 17/08/2020 21:10

You definitely did the right thing. Keep on supporting her and your niece/nephew.

Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 17/08/2020 21:11

Are you able to go round and help her at some point so that she can get some sleep? In the house so she can feed when she needs to?

MrsSpookyM · 17/08/2020 21:12

Well done OP. Did he remove all his belongings?

Can she arrange to have the locks changed/a ring doorbell installed?

Beautiful3 · 17/08/2020 21:25

Thank you for standing up for her. You absolutely did the right thing.

Soundbyte · 17/08/2020 21:34

You absolutely did the right thing, but I understand completely that you may feel guilt or that you overreacted and exacerbated the situation. That’s because even though you recognise his bad behaviour, he’s still your relative and so you’ll feel conflict when you acknowledge his behaviour and do something about it. None of this is your fault and you’ve done nothing wrong, the blame for all of this lies squarely at the feet of your shithead of a brother.

Scbchl · 17/08/2020 21:38

You did the right thing. In your position I'd be feeling more protective of my newborn niece or nephew and his or her mother than any brother.

thefourgp · 17/08/2020 21:39

Good for you OP. Far too many abuser’s families enable them. You’re a good person.

Sunflowerlover20 · 17/08/2020 21:52

Well done @JoesM12 not many people these days do the right thing and go against a family member when they are in the wrong. You did so well to support mother and baby. Hope you continue to have a relationship with them both as you sound lovely and a good aunt!
Pleased the new mum can finally relax and enjoy her new baby. Good luck to them.

JoesM12 · 18/08/2020 15:36

Thank you all for your messages.
I will continue to support her and the baby as much as I can. Even if all I can do right now is house work or watch the baby while she showers.
Thank you all again.
I hope my low life of a brother realised how much pain he’s caused and does some serious soul searching.
She has told me she already feels like a huge weight has been lifted and she is enjoying her newborn for the first time.

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Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 18/08/2020 15:38

Thanks so much for the update OP, and well done again for everything you are doing.

xoxogossipgirl2020 · 18/08/2020 15:54

you definitely did the right thing. I’m glad to see you will continue to support her and the baby. I speak from experience as the girlfriend in this scenario, and despite his entire family knowing he is this person, everybody is scared of pushing him away so I am isolated by them all, the one time I made that call to the police because he wouldn’t go until I did, I was blamed for calling them. There’s nothing harder than being in his situation AND being cut out/blamed. I believe mine and my child’s lives would be different if they supported us rather than him. I hope her and the baby are doing ok xx

backseatcookers · 18/08/2020 16:05

You sound absolutely lovely and so does she. Thank you for doing the right thing, you've potentially saved her years of ongoing abuse and given her the confidence to know that in future should she find herself in another relationship like that then even at the first red flag it's possible to be believed and it isn't always your fault as an abuser like your brother would have made her think. I feel so happy for you and her Thanks

Vodkacranberryplease · 18/08/2020 17:57

@JoesM12 you are a rock star. If only more people were like you.

As for your brother, I'm afraid he probably doesn't have a soul to search. He is what he is and that isn't because of your mum or your (current) family. He will go through his life causing pain and the best thing you can do is keep him away from anyone you love.

It sounds cruel but I think in your heart of hearts you know that. But you will be part of your little neice/nephews life hopefully.

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