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Did DP overreact or am I?

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User964667 · 16/08/2020 07:37

I've massively fallen out with my partner and need to know if I'm overreacting or not. Weve been together 4 years and lived together nearly a year, both have 12yo dds who generally get along well, but he doesn't discipline his at all. Literally never tells her off for anything. If he says anything she doesn't like she refuses to visit (eg my dd leaves her phone on charge downstairs at night, his is on hers until the early hours. If she's especially tired and grumpy and asks her to put her phone away for the night she will sob and refuse to visit for the next 2 weekends). She is an incredibly fussy eater so we have to make her a separate meal, and she will often make vomit noises at the rest of our food, say it smells disgusting etc. He will just very mildly say "Oh come on, please don't say that, its nice I promise" etc and not stop her, whereas I would never allow my dd to behave like that. Its not that hes harsh on my dd - its not his business to discipline her and he knows that. But these are just 2 of a million examples and its draining. Didnt realise he was like this with her until they moved in here, and every time she comes to stay I lose more respect for him.

So yesterday our dds argued about something and his dd picked my dds ring light up and threw it at the wall, smashing it. DP just said "Oh it must have been an accident, she wouldn't have meant it, never mind" etc - didn't even ask her to apologise, although he did say he would buy a new one. When ordering it he asked his dd did she want one of her own and bought them both one, which really annoyed me as she got a reward for breaking something, but I left it and just comforted my dd.

Then about an hour after that he went outside to discover one of the chairs of our new garden furniture is broken. The girls had been dancing on them earlier and I assume one of them has put their foot through the chair somehow. It almost certainly was them but he has no proof, and I'm sure it wasn't deliberate. Well he went absolutely ballistic, roared at them both and demanded both their phones, said they weren't having them back for a week (his dd was already going back to her mums that night so he couldn't have followed through, but I dont do empty threats so I assume he thought my dds punishment would be carried on while his wouldnt). Made them both cry - hes usually very passive so we were all shocked. I came in and told him to stop being ridiculous, he didn't know it was them and even if he did it was a huge overreaction to an accident, especially bearing in mind his earlier reaction to the light being thrown. He accused me of undermining him and refused to give the phones back, tried to leave with my dds phone in his pocket. I told him not to come back until he's calm and ready to apologise and he stayed out last night.

I need to get rid of him dont I? The total lack of parenting is bad enough but when he reacts like that to something of HIS being broken then it just makes the whole thing even worse. For context the garden furniture was expensive and he just spent his bonus from work on it 2 weeks ago, but I dont think that matters, his reaction was still ridiculous

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Livelovebehappy · 16/08/2020 08:33

This is one of the drawbacks when attempting to live in blended families. It’s just going to work for you. He feels guilty for being a part time dad. Over compensates by stepping back from any disciplining of his dd. His dd is sad - feels jealous because your dd gets to live with your DP full time, whilst she just gets the mandatory eow, so she manipulates her df in the only way she knows - by withholding visits as she has learnt that this upsets him. You will always put your dd first, and likewise he will also be the same with his. You both have different parenting views. In your relationship nothing is going to get better here, so doubtful that this blended family thing is going to work for you.

Livelovebehappy · 16/08/2020 08:34

just not going to work for you

AlwaysCheddar · 16/08/2020 08:35

Time to say bye to him.

hardboiledeggs · 16/08/2020 08:36

Honestly he wont change and you know it. You need to decide if you can live with it.

Nanny0gg · 16/08/2020 08:41

He's awful and you should get rid, but i don't blame him for being angry about the furniture. Who lets teenage girls dance on garden chairs? Punishment wasn't balanced though.

User964667 · 16/08/2020 08:45

@ittakes2 I know what you're saying, but its never been an issue until recently. His dd is usually only here once a week and its to see her dad not me, so they often spend time just the two of them. My dd just doesnt need telling off very often - she's good at doing chores, homework etc, we argue about getting to school on time because shes slow of a morning but hes already at work by then. I've never specifically said 'you can not discipline her', its more that we're aware we have different standards so we focus on our own children and bring any issues to the other to deal with. But clearly it took one incident for that system to well and truly fall apart

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LockdownMayhem · 16/08/2020 08:47

I don't necessarily agree with the other posters who are saying of course you're right and of course he's wrong... I think you both have very different parenting styles which perhaps aren't compatible. Your version of the light incident (where he said it was an accident and his DD didn't mean it) is similar to the incident with the chair which involves your DD (i.e that YOU are saying it was an accident and they didn't mean it) so it sounds a bit like you assume if it involves his DD it must be deliberate, whereas if your dd was involved it must have been an accident...

I personally don't think he's right to not discipline his DD, but that is his choice as a parent, just as it's yours to discipline yours the way you see fit. You've already said he doesn't discipline your DD, so it's not like there are double standards there, just different rules and expectations.

I think your biggest problem is the 2 of you being in the same page. But I do agree that if you can't work out a compromise, it might be best to go your separate ways.

Sexnotgender · 16/08/2020 08:47

I couldn’t live like that.

Your DD will become resentful.

BurtsBeesKnees · 16/08/2020 08:48

Oh dear this isn't going to work unless your dh changes, and what's the chances if that?

The ring breaking and him buying his dd one too is staggering! Your dd much feel shit and worthless witnessing this. Red flag 1

And your right, he's pissed they broke something if his but minimises then broken ring, red flag number 2

Shouting so loudly and being so aggressive they cry, red flag 3

Over reaction re discipline and being inconsistent (your dd losing her phone a week and his until she goes back to mum(, red flag 4

User964667 · 16/08/2020 08:50

@Livelovebehappy thats summed it up exactly. She doesn't have a happy life at home either, her mum is a heavy drinker and has a new boyfriend every few months who often move in, and two that we know of have been violent. His dd struggles at school and with friendships, her only interests seem to be online games and YouTube. I do understand why he's soft with her which is why I've stayed out of it as much as I have, but hes not doing her any favours at all, and now that its starting to affect my dd I just need to take us out of the situation. You're right, I know in my heart it's not going to get better.

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MiddleClassProblem · 16/08/2020 08:50

Have you spoken to him about it? Even prior to this about DD walking all over him and possible solutions?

orangejuicer · 16/08/2020 08:53

Please get rid of him.

Veryverycalmnow · 16/08/2020 08:55

He's been totally inconsistent and unreasonable. I'd be considering getting rid for this behaviour

oakleaffy · 16/08/2020 08:56

@User964667
His Daughter sounds ghastly in her rude behaviour, undisciplined and horribly spoiled.

Vomiting noises and being rude about food?... at 12???

I'd be out of there, fast.
He sounds like a weak, indulgent parent to his Daughter.

Hamm87 · 16/08/2020 08:56

Ok reading this sounds like you hate his dd he seems to be walking on egg shells with her as he wants contact and if he does punish her she refuses to visit.
However the lamp how do you know ot was thrown just your dds word or did you see it 🤔 and I woukd have been so angry if my expensive furniture had been broken and for all you know he might have followed though with this punishment you never let him try before you undermined him sorry but sounds like your dad does no wrong and his everything

ScubaSteven · 16/08/2020 08:57

@Leflic you think that the parenting ends at 16!?

This inequality between them will be there forever, when they are both older how does that work then? You can’t exactly discipline an adult but this has the potential to rip the whole family apart once they are grown up. It’s potentially going to be your DD who is always second because your DP is never going to tell his DD she can’t have her way. This will affect them as adults and your relationship with your DD.

Think of the bigger picture OP, getting rid of him is the best thing you can do if he’s allowing such differences in the way the girls are treated.Losing his temper like that is clearly a symptom of the fact he doesn’t discipline and doesn’t see it as his job.

User964667 · 16/08/2020 08:57

@LockdownMayhem I know what you mean, and I didnt see the light being thrown at the wall (although she didn't deny it, just sat in a sulk refusing to discuss it), which is why I didn't push for a consequence. In an ideal world I would have had a similar consequence for each - an apology, and an attempt to fix it, or losing a weeks pocket money towards replacing it. But I also think throwing a light is definitely more deliberate than dancing on a chair and breaking it - if anything the second incident was our fault for watching them and not stopping them. The furniture was really expensive and doesnt look flimsy - I would have been happy to stand on it myself (I wont now!)

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Somethingkindaoooo · 16/08/2020 09:00

Can you not pull her up on bad behaviour?
Not discipline,but just " please do not make those noises at the dinner table. So,how was everyone's day?"

I've read most of the thread, but may have missed if you guys have talked about this?

User964667 · 16/08/2020 09:02

Thanks for all the advice, I think I'd already decided this wasn't working but its good to know others would do the same. I will talk to him today

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SophieB100 · 16/08/2020 09:04

You said a page or two back OP that you've lost respect for him.
I think once respect goes - it's game over.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do Flowers

Doodar · 16/08/2020 09:05

I’d ask him to move out, you’ve got years left of this and it won’t get any better.

footprintsintheslow · 16/08/2020 09:05

Well done op, it's not something I could put up with in a relationship.
People are all different but some standards are non negotiable.

I would take you dd out for a pizza or something and have some good bonding time and an honest chat about what happened and what is going to happen in future so she knows your position on it.

User964667 · 16/08/2020 09:06

@Somethingkindaoooo I do tell her about the sick noises, about moaning loudly and going lalalala whenever anything she doesnt like is on TV, about throwing sweet wrappers on the floor, leaving dirty cups and plates everywhere, being rude to staff in shops and restaurants etc etc etc and to be fair so does her dad. But hes sooooo meek and mild about it that she ignores him, and he doesnt follow through so it never improves

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allinadaystwerk · 16/08/2020 09:09

@FlySheMust

Get rid. But tell him why loudly.
It will not get better. The kids suffer the most
Feralkidsatthecampsite · 16/08/2020 09:10

Imo your dd's will never have a decent relationship with each other being parented so differently.. Imagine 2 x 16 yo girls if they are like this at 12..
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You owe it to your dd to get rid of him - he went ott and your dd can't live like that..

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