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To think you shouldn't be advertising porn on an autism page?

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 17:52

I have three autistic loved ones, one being my DH and the other two being my DC and my step child.

Myself, DH and DSS use Facebook and a while ago DSS invited me to like a page ran by a young man with autism who made the page to raise awareness about autism/mental health and to provide solidarity to others on the spectrum who may feel alone / struggling. His audience are largely children/teens on the spectrum and then alot of adult women who are on there because they either have autism themselves or have somebody on the spectrum in their family. He has alot of vulnerable followers.

As his page grew in popularity and he discovered memes were popular he would upload funny pictures of himself wearing mankini's or whatever else with funny quotes. Just a bit of fun, nothing especially wrong with that.

Fast forward to now he's made an onlyfans (which is basically porn where you upload photos of yourself naked / masturbating / having sex or whatever else) and he's using the autism page to heavily advertise it and post inappropriate posts about how he "bares all" is dirty and encourages his followers to subscribe.. many of whom are children.

A couple of days ago he uploaded a screenshot to the page purporting to show a message from a married man saying how his porn profile arouses him more than his wife ever has, and then boasted that the 'married man' and his wife both follow the page. Cue a huge backlash and he then deleted the post.

Suffice to say DSS has been told in no uncertain terms to unfollow and unlike the page immediately.

AIBU to think he's out of line for using the autism community in this way given his target audience are primarily young teenagers with autism or the mothers of children with autism?

A few months ago I was shown a Facebook page called Marcus' Autism journey,

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dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:46

@Steakpienchips

Ok I'm unreasonable for being annoyed that 14 year old DSS has grown mans arses appearing on his phone and invitations to come and watch said grown man masturbate Envy

Get a grip will you

Of course not

Yabu for blaming the man posting though. It's his page, his body, his only fans account

dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:47

@Steakpienchips

I have unfollowed but i see no reason I can't discuss this on mumsnet with other parents. It is what the website for and this was a concern.
You've asked if you're being unreasonable

Funnily enough people will answer and some won't answer how you want

If you want an echo chamber post in another area

Thelnebriati · 15/08/2020 23:50

Fucks sake, there's already plenty of sites for adult material, why does it have to be on all of the internet?

Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 23:52

He knows who is reading these posts and he doesn't care and that is the issue I have with it.

I'm not saying he shouldn't earn money how he sees fit but to use the autism community as a platform for that given the amount of children who follow him is bad.

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 23:53

dwiz I recognise you from other threads you have a habit of being obtuse i think you just like to disagree with people as a hobby.

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dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:54

@Steakpienchips

He knows who is reading these posts and he doesn't care and that is the issue I have with it.

I'm not saying he shouldn't earn money how he sees fit but to use the autism community as a platform for that given the amount of children who follow him is bad.

And?

It's not his fault who his base are

It's down to parents to filter what their children access

This man is allowed to do what he likes with his Facebook page. He doesn't owe your child or any children anything: he isn't their parent

dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:56

@Steakpienchips

dwiz I recognise you from other threads you have a habit of being obtuse i think you just like to disagree with people as a hobby.
I'm not disagreeing with you

You've asked a question on AIBU

You're the one who challenged by vote of YABU so I think you'll find you're the one disagreeing for fun

Salmons · 15/08/2020 23:59

If he knows a lot of his following are children, then of course it would be far more appropriate to start a new page for his other endeavours rather than them recieve notifications. For a young teen, also on the spectrum, to see those posts in their updates is not good. Of course he can post what he wants, but it's not a free pass; if someone NT had a page which included a lot of teens etc and then started advertising their OF on it, that would be wrong as well.

Steakpienchips · 16/08/2020 00:26

Exactly that Salmons.

DSS was considerably creeped out by it. I'm not naive enough to believe he hasn't at some point seen something rude on the internet but he certainly doesn't want to be seeing grown mens backsides and sex talk on a Facebook page which claims to be there to support other young people with ASD, do we want him seeing it.

It's all about quick money and exploring his sexual side (his words not mine)

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Legoandloldolls · 16/08/2020 00:33

I have a child with ASD.

My child is lovely and adorable but on the journey of learning about ASD I found out a enlightening fact.

Being an arsehole and having ASD isn't mutually exclusive.

He sounds like a arsehole. Creepy as fuck too.

Dirty little fucker.

WorraLiberty · 16/08/2020 00:43

@Legoandloldolls

I have a child with ASD.

My child is lovely and adorable but on the journey of learning about ASD I found out a enlightening fact.

Being an arsehole and having ASD isn't mutually exclusive.

He sounds like a arsehole. Creepy as fuck too.

Dirty little fucker.

I agree he really is.

He also has 147k FB followers though of all ages.

But really my main concern is for him and whether he knows how easy he is to trace and track down and whether his mum knows the full extent of what he's doing, as he still lives in her house.

Steakpienchips · 16/08/2020 00:55

He was running a competition a few weeks ago and the prize was to have a meet and greet with him, a night at a hotel (i think) and dinner there.

I don't expect he was going to stay at the hotel himself as it was like a 'mini break' for the winner, but he'd be going to meet them for dinner. Anybody could turn up. A predatory man who takes a like to his rude pictures perhaps. Multiple.

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DressingGownofDoom · 16/08/2020 01:07

It is his page but it would probably be best for him to have a separate page for the adult content.

Some of his memes are quite funny Blush

user127819 · 16/08/2020 01:26

To those who say "his body, his page" etc. If he had invited children and young people to his house for innocent storytime and support, and then starting showing porn, would it be ok because it's "his body, his house"? Of course not. It would be abuse. People are allowed to watch or share porn, but not when there are children watching, because it's inappropriate and it's abusive. "My body, my rules" only applies when you are doing no harm to anyone else. His page has a significant underage and vulnerable following and what he is sharing is harmful. He should start a new page if he wants to share such things (although I also agree with others that Marcus himself is vulnerable and really needs some oversight).

Gingerfish91 · 16/08/2020 03:30

I have a lot of experience with autism. He doesn’t come across as autistic at all. I’d be furious if I was his mum. I am the mum of an autistic son the same age.

OwlBeThere · 16/08/2020 03:52

As a parent you aren’t unreasonable to not want your 14 year old child seeing that kind of adult content. But I also don’t think it’s unreasonable of him to do what he wishes with his own Facebook page. He’s not obliged to keep it a certain way for younger followers. He’s entitled to explore his sexuality as an adult man.

My biggest concern here is whether he is being exploited tbh.

OwlBeThere · 16/08/2020 03:54

@Gingerfish91....and how does one come across autistic exactly?

dwiz8 · 16/08/2020 10:33

@user127819

To those who say "his body, his page" etc. If he had invited children and young people to his house for innocent storytime and support, and then starting showing porn, would it be ok because it's "his body, his house"? Of course not. It would be abuse. People are allowed to watch or share porn, but not when there are children watching, because it's inappropriate and it's abusive. "My body, my rules" only applies when you are doing no harm to anyone else. His page has a significant underage and vulnerable following and what he is sharing is harmful. He should start a new page if he wants to share such things (although I also agree with others that Marcus himself is vulnerable and really needs some oversight).
The fact you think that is in any way compatible is ridiculous
Hobnobswantshernameback · 16/08/2020 10:40

God ignore Dwiz
Contrary, goady derailer on every fucking thread
A quick AS will show you
OP YANBU

Alittlesad5 · 16/08/2020 10:52

I echo the above poster, definitely don't pay dwiz any attention. She (I presume it's a she) did similar on my thread the other day and was vile about my little boy who also has autism.

Apparently I should get used to people treating him differently and singling him out to be unkind to because he's non verbal and he'll have that his whole life.

Such posters should be banned from mumsnet, pathetic ghastly individual.

WorraLiberty · 16/08/2020 11:25

@Gingerfish91

I have a lot of experience with autism. He doesn’t come across as autistic at all. I’d be furious if I was his mum. I am the mum of an autistic son the same age.
He was diagnosed about 8 years ago and has even written a book about it.

But I'm curious to know what you mean by 'He doesn’t come across as autistic at all'?

dwiz8 · 16/08/2020 11:28

@Alittlesad5

I echo the above poster, definitely don't pay dwiz any attention. She (I presume it's a she) did similar on my thread the other day and was vile about my little boy who also has autism.

Apparently I should get used to people treating him differently and singling him out to be unkind to because he's non verbal and he'll have that his whole life.

Such posters should be banned from mumsnet, pathetic ghastly individual.

I wasn't vile about your little boy Hmm

You're another poster who asks on Aibu then fights everyone who thinks you're being unreasonable - which you were

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LeftMyOtherUsernameAtHome · 16/08/2020 11:48

I'm also curious as to how someone 'comes across as autistic'. People with autism are just that, people with individual personalities aside from their autism.

I can totally understand how you feel, OP. And I do think it is poor form for him to post this stuff when he surely must know he has a lot of young fans. But he is an adult so can post whatever he likes, and he never claims his page is child friendly. It's really up to the parents to monitor what their kids view. I doubt Facebook will do anything about the page. But again, I totally understand how you feel OP.

BubblyBarbara · 16/08/2020 11:55

I'm also curious as to how someone 'comes across as autistic'

If there was no way to tell they wouldn’t be disproportionately be bullied as much, but they are. Even if you can’t describe a look to a T there are still a variety of things that give people gut feelings.