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To think you shouldn't be advertising porn on an autism page?

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 17:52

I have three autistic loved ones, one being my DH and the other two being my DC and my step child.

Myself, DH and DSS use Facebook and a while ago DSS invited me to like a page ran by a young man with autism who made the page to raise awareness about autism/mental health and to provide solidarity to others on the spectrum who may feel alone / struggling. His audience are largely children/teens on the spectrum and then alot of adult women who are on there because they either have autism themselves or have somebody on the spectrum in their family. He has alot of vulnerable followers.

As his page grew in popularity and he discovered memes were popular he would upload funny pictures of himself wearing mankini's or whatever else with funny quotes. Just a bit of fun, nothing especially wrong with that.

Fast forward to now he's made an onlyfans (which is basically porn where you upload photos of yourself naked / masturbating / having sex or whatever else) and he's using the autism page to heavily advertise it and post inappropriate posts about how he "bares all" is dirty and encourages his followers to subscribe.. many of whom are children.

A couple of days ago he uploaded a screenshot to the page purporting to show a message from a married man saying how his porn profile arouses him more than his wife ever has, and then boasted that the 'married man' and his wife both follow the page. Cue a huge backlash and he then deleted the post.

Suffice to say DSS has been told in no uncertain terms to unfollow and unlike the page immediately.

AIBU to think he's out of line for using the autism community in this way given his target audience are primarily young teenagers with autism or the mothers of children with autism?

A few months ago I was shown a Facebook page called Marcus' Autism journey,

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GoshHashana · 15/08/2020 18:57

That's disgusting.

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 19:13

Incase anybody was still in doubt as to what he was advertising...

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TinySongstress · 15/08/2020 19:15

Ooh I just had a look on his page. It all looks like a disaster waiting to happen tbh....

WorraLiberty · 15/08/2020 19:15

I'm surprised FB don't have a problem with it really, as I have friends who used to advertise their businesses on FB pages and they were told they needed to pay for a proper business page.

DeeTractor · 15/08/2020 19:19

"An aside; why did you use "myself" in that sentence. If you were saying "I use this page myself" then fine but you're not. The word is 'I'. Just I.
Its only on mumsnet, and its every few posts, that people write lists with myself instead of I. Please stop it."

As an aside, how embarassing.

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 19:20

It goes on and on..

My only issue with what he's doing is the fact his primary audience is young/vulnerable children and teens on the spectrum.

I don't think for one second he is intending for children themselves to see the uncensored porn, but these things are bad enough. He isn't understanding or doesn't care what he's being inappropriate.

To think you shouldn't be advertising porn on an autism page?
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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 19:23

I'm not English... my terminology is not one hundred percent perfect. I don't know why people are offended by that.

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JanMeyer · 15/08/2020 19:23

It may just be a joke, he is autistic and does not understand social norms so I think you are being a bit mean.

How do you know he doesn't understand social norms? Do you know the guy and how his autism presents? The OPs not being mean, did you miss the part where she said she has autistic family members? His followers are children for gods sake, and obviously he does understand what he's doing is wrong because he deleted one of the posts in question.
And even if it was "just a joke" the OP still wouldn't be mean for pointing it out. Because a) autism isn't a free pass for inappropriate behaviour and b) if he really doesn't understand and no-one points it out to him, how's he ever going to know?
Someone being autistic doesn't mean you can't critcise their behaviour/actions, and i say that as an autistic person.

CoolCatLady · 15/08/2020 19:25

Is he linked to any autism charities or local support groups you could flag this to?

It is massively inappropriate, and Marcus may not have the capacity to realise that, it could be worth contacting someone who can be touch with him to explain?

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 19:28

I don't think he is linked to autism charities no, at least I've never seen him affiliated to any.

I'm definitely not being mean to him. I have three autistic family members, we embrace neurodiversity here. It is the behaviour.

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WorraLiberty · 15/08/2020 23:08

I Googled his book that he's selling and from that, Google brought up his home town.

He's going to be so easy to track down and he's attracting so many pervy men who probably see him as 'virginal', because he's said he's now exploring his sexuality.

I do hope his mum isn't as naive as he is when it comes to the internet and that she knows what he's doing.

dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:10

Eh yabu

It's his page and he is allowed to post what he likes to it

It's not his fault many younger children follow him on there. It's the parents responsibility to monitor what their children access, you noticed the page is no longer appropriate and that's great, but it doesn't make him unreasonable.

Emeraldshamrock · 15/08/2020 23:14

Yanbu I am aware of the youtuber. He needs to come with a warning sign.

Thelnebriati · 15/08/2020 23:24

If your page on a site like Facebook and Youtube is posting adult material, it should be set to private.

whiplashy · 15/08/2020 23:32

yes YABU, he’s an adult who can post what he likes and if it’s inappropriate for kids, their parents should be monitoring who they follow and acting accordingly

dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:33

@Thelnebriati

If your page on a site like Facebook and Youtube is posting adult material, it should be set to private.
It's not posting the adult material

It's advertising it.

Big difference and hence why FB won't do anything as it doesn't break any rules

TattyTeddies · 15/08/2020 23:36

@dwiz8

Eh yabu

It's his page and he is allowed to post what he likes to it

It's not his fault many younger children follow him on there. It's the parents responsibility to monitor what their children access, you noticed the page is no longer appropriate and that's great, but it doesn't make him unreasonable.

His page was created to provide a community for young autistic people to raise awareness and support one another, so yes it is his fault they follow him.

Nobody is saying he shouldn't make adult content to be viewed by adults, people are concerned that he's advertising that content and being overtly sexual on the autism page in view of the young boys and girls who look up to him.

He's choosing to prioritise £ by advertising his adult content on his page because of the many followers he has there. To him that is more important than being the role model he set out to be.

TattyTeddies · 15/08/2020 23:38

You are entitled to your opinion dwiz, I'm just not the only parent who's shocked and disappointed by what he's doing on that page.

If he said from the get go that he would be advertising that type of material then I'm sure he wouldn't have the following he has.

dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:39

@TattyTeddies and...?

It's his page

His content

His choice

It doesn't matter why his page was originally set up. I bet when Miley Cyrus was Hannah Montana her page was full of kids, then she grew up and her content got progressively more adult.

dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:39

@TattyTeddies

You are entitled to your opinion dwiz, I'm just not the only parent who's shocked and disappointed by what he's doing on that page.

If he said from the get go that he would be advertising that type of material then I'm sure he wouldn't have the following he has.

He clearly didn't know he would be doing that content when he set it up

Your children aren't entitled to a role model and he isn't obligated to stay as such

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 23:41

Yes it's down to the parents to control what their children see on Facebook but by the time we get to know about it our children have already seen it.

We have restrictions on our net for a reason, you don't expect that stuff to come up on a Facebook page you already approved that is suppose to be child friendly.

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dwiz8 · 15/08/2020 23:42

@Steakpienchips

Yes it's down to the parents to control what their children see on Facebook but by the time we get to know about it our children have already seen it.

We have restrictions on our net for a reason, you don't expect that stuff to come up on a Facebook page you already approved that is suppose to be child friendly.

If he is promoting an only fans account your child wouldn't have seen the content unless they subscribed

You're being worked up over nothing. The page is no longer suitable, unfollow and move on

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 23:44

Ok I'm unreasonable for being annoyed that 14 year old DSS has grown mans arses appearing on his phone and invitations to come and watch said grown man masturbate Envy

Get a grip will you

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PickAChew · 15/08/2020 23:45

He's on twitter, not exactly being shy
twitter.com/marcuslisle/status/1248934626447568896?s=19

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Steakpienchips · 15/08/2020 23:46

I have unfollowed but i see no reason I can't discuss this on mumsnet with other parents. It is what the website for and this was a concern.

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