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chunkyrun · 2020-08-14T16:16:13+00:00

Neighbour complains whenever anyone reverses out of drive. Apparently when house built planning permission stipulated no reversing. Any know what rights are around this? She sends footage to landlord of people reversing out. Police were previously contacted as she was abusive over it. They said it's fine as it's residential road that we're reversing on to

AmelieTaylor · 16/08/2020 07:48

@JuniperFather

People might have stated "reasons", but that's just their perception

The Twig M stated He/she didn't Know why people did it.

I said there were plenty of reasons stated on the thread - I didn't say I agreed they were safer!

FippertyGibbett · 16/08/2020 07:52

@chunkyrun

Your neighbour does indeed need something else to occupy her mind. What is her stake in this??

^^ she is the ultimate Karen. She'll sit and watch the cctv every day and forward on images to landlord. I don't know what she gets out of it. Must be a power trip thing

I was with you until this comment. Just no need for it, it just perpetuates it.

lovelybittasquirrel · 16/08/2020 07:58

Your neighbour needs to find something to occupy their time. How sad.

It's obvious better to reverse in and drive out but sometimes it's just not that easy.

I live on a busy (but not main) road. If I stopped in the road to wait to reverse in I would have loads of people backed up beeping and getting pissed off.

I usually drive in and reverse off, but sit and wait until it's clear to do so.

Palestrina20 · 16/08/2020 08:00

Why on earth is the neighbour bothered?

On the speed awareness course I went to they said it's more fuel efficient to reverse a heated up car than a cold car, that's stuck with me so I always reverse in rather than out now. Probably saved me about 50p over the years

DeltaFlyer · 16/08/2020 08:01

We live on a busy road between 2 towns. I would like to reverse on to the drive to make it easier to leave as sometimes we can be waiting a while to reverse off as we have to wait for a good gap on both sides if the road due to angle of the drive.

I drive onto the drive and reverse out as;
A, people get up my backside so I can't reverse on.
B, neighbour parks over their own drive, which is the space id need to get aligned properly to reverse on.
C, our drive is straight but neighbours drive which is immediately next to ours slopes down. So there is a good foot drop to fall down if I got it wrong.
D, parking facing the house is safer for dc as he gets out into the front garden rather than potentially falling into nextdoors drive.
E, I could only reverse on if approaching the house from the same side of the road and I usually come from the other way. I would have to go a few miles down the road for a suitable turning point in order to approach from the right way.

Trashtara · 16/08/2020 08:06

So it's safer to drive off the driveway the Highway Code way, but it means you'd have to do a bit of a turn to be orientated the right direction in the road...

It's hard to explain but on our road and due to the orientation of the drive it would be more dangerous to drive out of our drive forward if going right ( which is the only way we ever go). I'd be stuck across the road for much longer and cars coming from the right wouldn't be able to see me. Our drive has cars parked right up to it (over the H line) both sides and cars opposite it. If I were to drive out left I'd be placing more people at risk because either I or the car heading towards me would have to reverse a long (100m +) down the road to allow us to pass each other. It is a long narrow road with cars parked either side. It's notorious in the area. We are the only house on our half of the street with a driveway. We could park across our drive way, but it's the only passing place so would make the road more dangerous for us to do that.

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/08/2020 08:17

@chunkyrun

Your neighbour does indeed need something else to occupy her mind. What is her stake in this??

^^ she is the ultimate Karen. She'll sit and watch the cctv every day and forward on images to landlord. I don't know what she gets out of it. Must be a power trip thing

I was also with you until this point. Why the fuck do women have to demean other women? Are men not doing a good enough job? And why the fuck do you think there is no male equivalent of Karen?

JuniperFather · 16/08/2020 08:30

It is literally amazing to me how many convuluted arguments can be made to avoid reversing onto a driveway.

I stand by my beliefs that there's a kind of inbuilt loathing in this country to reversing anywhere where driving forward is also an option.

To the earlier poster who said "A: people get up my backside so I can't reverse on"... FFS no one would ever reverse on if that was the case. I have that scenario and I indicate well ahead of time, slow down and then stop and immediately put reverse on. If the person behind me is too close? FUCK them. They have to realise, then reverse back. Or go round me. I've indicated my manoeuvre, it's your obligation to react accordingly.

Trashtara · 16/08/2020 08:36

JuniperFather our drive is easier to reverse on to than drive forward on to. However it is much, much, much harder to pull out forward on to.

Pobblebonk · 16/08/2020 08:36

Does your landlord actually care if she sends him videos of you reversing out and do they do anything about it? If they're not bothered, it may be simplest for them just to block her emails.

BookSkark · 16/08/2020 08:36

Our driveway is so small I have to go right up to the house to fit the car on the drive. So if I reverse on, I can't then open the boot. It's not a busy road, so easier to reverse off instead - never been a problem.

DeltaFlyer · 16/08/2020 08:48

@JuniperFather

It is literally amazing to me how many convuluted arguments can be made to avoid reversing onto a driveway.

I stand by my beliefs that there's a kind of inbuilt loathing in this country to reversing anywhere where driving forward is also an option.

To the earlier poster who said "A: people get up my backside so I can't reverse on"... FFS no one would ever reverse on if that was the case. I have that scenario and I indicate well ahead of time, slow down and then stop and immediately put reverse on. If the person behind me is too close? FUCK them. They have to realise, then reverse back. Or go round me. I've indicated my manoeuvre, it's your obligation to react accordingly.

Yes it is my obligation to react accordingly.

And accordingly I choose not to reverse into the drive.

Have done as you suggest many times when I first moved in but often people stop over my drive, people get behind them so they can't back up. People approaching on the other side so they can't go around.
Less traffic obstruction doing it my way.

Gobbycop · 16/08/2020 08:59

There's nothing in traffic law about it that I can think of?

It's probably already been mentioned but it would be considered better practice to reverse into the drive then forwards out onto road.
Maybe if a person reversed out into the path of a cyclist ect that would help contribute to careless driving.

StCharlotte · 16/08/2020 09:54

I have worked in the legal department of a housebuilder and typed up many master leases and transfers. Not once have I seen a clause relating to how to drive on/off drives. "House-on-wheels" and "cats meat shops" yes. Reversing off drives no.

sunglassesonthetable · 16/08/2020 10:29

sounds complete and utter nonsense to me.

I would email your landlord and ask about the situation. Please could they clarify and get to the bottom of this.

And as for self appointed camera person. smile and a wave.

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chunkyrun · 16/08/2020 18:29

If you're concerned about someone reversing out of a drive, surely you wouldn't do the exact same thing

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lifeafter50 · 16/08/2020 18:44

Batshit neighbour!
Covenants like that are unenforceable.
Obviously more desirable to drive out, but if you are observant and don't mow down small children or cyclists, no problem.
I normally drive off my drive but have had to park to reverse out tomorrow. Will do do sending a big FU to your neighbour 😀

Onekidnoclue · 16/08/2020 18:55

I think you’re fine. Her behaviour on the other hand might merit compliant!
“ If a neighbour is concerned that CCTV is being used for harassment, or other matters dealt with under the criminal law, then these are matters for the police”

toomuchpeppapig · 16/08/2020 19:02

Speak to your landlord and if he or she isn't bothered about it then just ignore it. You may also want to find out the rules on people filming you without your permission though as I'm not sure she's allowed to film your comings and goings. If she isn't then you have a case to make her move her cameras so she can't watch you pull out of your drive. Lastly, if she ever says anything to you in person about it then tell her to piss off and get a life. Silly cow (her, not you obvs). Life's too short to let busybodies like that take an inch. With your landlords permission I would make my feelings very clear to the neighbour tbh.

toomuchpeppapig · 16/08/2020 19:07

Alternatively, if your LL is ok with it, then put up your own camera that shows the neighbour's driveway and obtain her email address from the LL and email her the footage every time a member of her own household reverses onto the road. Give her a taste of her own medicine.

You may have noticed from my comments that people like this really get my goat!! I'd make her wish she'd never have the audacity to poke her nose into my business tbh. Good luck op. If you're invested enough in it then I'd love to hear an update from you on what you decide and do if possible. I'd love to know that your nosey neighbour does end up getting what she deserves for her behaviour.

RedPanda2 · 16/08/2020 19:08

She is definitely unhinged, isn't the landlord sick of her? I have a steep driveway, as does the rest of the street so we all reverse out. What an odd thing to care about

thecatsthecats · 16/08/2020 19:08

@JuniperFather

It is literally amazing to me how many convuluted arguments can be made to avoid reversing onto a driveway.

I stand by my beliefs that there's a kind of inbuilt loathing in this country to reversing anywhere where driving forward is also an option.

To the earlier poster who said "A: people get up my backside so I can't reverse on"... FFS no one would ever reverse on if that was the case. I have that scenario and I indicate well ahead of time, slow down and then stop and immediately put reverse on. If the person behind me is too close? FUCK them. They have to realise, then reverse back. Or go round me. I've indicated my manoeuvre, it's your obligation to react accordingly.

And what about the other drivers in the road?

I reverse onto my drive if I come back at a quiet time of day, but when it's busy, I've seen obscenely dangerous moves from people either trying to block or "help" me. Cars realising too late that I need the room then reversing FAST towards the driver behind them, or towards people crossing the road.

I trust my own ability to reverse carefully off my drive than for the drivers at rush time to safely allow me to reverse on.

RedPanda2 · 16/08/2020 19:10

@StCharlotte erm we're going to need a thread for those please....

sunglassesonthetable · 16/08/2020 19:14

If you're concerned about someone reversing out of a drive, surely you wouldn't do the exact same thing

She sounds unhinged.

sunglassesonthetable · 16/08/2020 19:16

And a bully.