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Aibu to decide what contraception I want to use

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mrsstrange245 · 14/08/2020 17:11

Hi everyone
So bit of background Iv been with my Dp for 2 years have a child from previous relationship she's 3. for one year I was one the pill kept bleeding nearly everyday so stopped it
Being using condoms the rest
So today I got really fed up as he was complaining he doesn't feel anything when using a condom so I said fair enough while he was at work I rang my GP said to ring back on Monday morning and someone will discuss other contraception methods that would be suitable so I told my bf I possibly wanted a copper coil fitted he got really upset and said where is my say in that I said it was none of his business it's my body
He then started rambling on that I won't be able to have a child with him and why did I keep my other child if I didn't want any I was young and stupid but Iv a beautiful little girl and she's happy and well that's all that matters I don't want another one and he knows that don't get why that came up?
AIBU???

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mrsstrange245 · 14/08/2020 20:38

Thank you everyone again!
Iv never heard of the rat con artist I'll look into that I'm getting extremely tired of the way he treats me he turns everything like it's my fault
I'm hoping the get moved house soon maybe it would be better leaving him then as he won't know my next address ??
Iv met his friends and they all think he's mister nice guy
Iv told 2 of my close friends what he's like there supporting me through this aswell they actually introduced us
Since Iv told them they cut contact with him.
I'm abit financially unstable atm as iv everything to pay and no saving for Christmas for my daughter and I'm so scared I'll not be able to provide for her

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OliviaBenson · 14/08/2020 20:42

Get rid now op, don't wait to move.

Goyle · 14/08/2020 21:00

Leave his stuff on the kerb and get the locks changed. Get rid. What a wasteman. And Yes Yes, your body, your choice. He's a f*ckwit.

MaryLennoxsScowl · 14/08/2020 21:40

Oh, he is an arse. Listen, just say that the £600 he owes you is written off against the old car etc and dump him. Anyway, £600 is a hell of a lot cheaper than a baby. I do think doing the Freedom Programme is a good idea though.

MrsxRocky · 14/08/2020 21:50

Omg I do not recommend copper coil.
I'm one the super rare people it's happened to but still.
It's perforated my uterus and is sitting in my peritoneal cavity. I need an actual operation to remove it.

Suzi888 · 14/08/2020 21:56

Your emotional well-being (and your child’s) is worth more than Christmas presents. She’s only little, she won’t know so don’t feel guilty about gifts.
We unbox, insert batteries, then wrap presents so they could all be second hand anyway. All she needs is a happy mummy.

He doesn’t sound like he will give you your money back in any case. Are you claiming all your entitled to... tax credits, housing benefit, council tax benefits, 30 hrs child care etc.

You could wait until you move. but if your on a waiting list that could fall through /take time/prolong this situation.

mrsstrange245 · 14/08/2020 23:18

Thank you I'm going to mull things over tonight and see what I can do
Yes I'm getting all the benefits I'm entitled too
I'm going to sort contraception ASAP
and try and get out the best way possible for my daughter
Thank you every one x

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Graphista · 15/08/2020 02:46

"Iv met his friends and they all think he's mister nice guy" charm is a con man's most useful tool! They need the gift of the gab to talk people into ANYTHING. The people in my branch of my family that are like this have talked people into giving them cars, houses, office space, even a diamond watch on one occasion that was the owners heirloom!

We don't take anything to do with them now but even those family members who do see them LITERALLY leave their wallets and phones at home when they do! (Phones because they have their bank cards linked on them and they've been known to clone and steal that way - yes even from family members!)

What you're dealing with is relatively low level "ordinary" cheeky fuckery in terms of con artistry but the methods are the same:

1 be charming and friendly

2 help out your target in initial stages

lend THEM money and valuables so they think they owe you - psychologists call this something like reciprocity strategy. 2nd hand car salesmen do it by initially marking cars at higher prices than they're willing to sell at so when they drop the price you THINK they're doing you a favour - but they already have the price they're not willing to go below in mind and they use this as a way to keep you above that, when they SEEM to drop the price you feel OBLIGATED to reciprocate - do them a favour in return - so you go higher than you originally intended...

3 isolate your mark from ANYONE likely to alert them to the reality of the situation.

4 if challenged undermine their self esteem by gaslighting etc so they don't feel strong enough to deal with you

5 if things get REALLY desperate and the mark looks likely to exit or worse seek help from authorities use shame, Gugly tripping or even an under the surface threat of violence to deter them.

Re Christmas, my Dd was almost 3 the first Christmas after I split from my ex and I was on the bones of my arse at this point! Missing meals so she ate etc. I managed to get her a few cheap gifts and she was delighted with them, I did some other things to make the day fun that didn't cost. It breaks my heart even now 17 years later to think of that Christmas...she barely remembers it and what she does remember is the fun stuff.

The following few years were almost as tough and to be perfectly honest we never had a "good" Christmas, but each year I'd do little things to make it fun or interesting and that's what she remembers. Even when she was older and more interested in more expensive options I found ways to spread the costs without getting into debt. One idea I had when she reached the stage of being into clothes and fashion rather than paying full price buying before Christmas I'd "Make" my own "gift certificate" for her where I'd promise her a January sales shopping trip (I'd set the budget) and this meant she got more than if I'd spent the same amount before Christmas. Other relatives cottoned on and loved the idea and so started getting her gift cards for her favourite shops that she saved to use on that jan sales day. We'd make a proper day of it getting lunch out etc (nothing fancy just chain places - but they too often have sales/offers on in the jan as everyone's skint and watching the pennies!) and a hot choc for the train home.

Is your dd into drawing/crafts? One idea I had one year that was cheap but looked impressive was I got her a set of those plastic drawers like these

www.argos.co.uk/product/7223811?istCompanyId=a74d8886-5df9-4baa-b776-166b3bf9111c&istFeedId=30f62ea9-9626-4cac-97c8-9ff3921f8558&istItemId=ipxaatipq&istBid=t&gclsrc=aw.ds&&cmpid=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59157|acid:844-913-7556|cid:9567867304|agid:99275640438|tid:pla-919550366044|crid:423233945506|nw:g|rnd:13005550266613236123|dvc:m|adp:|mt:|loc:1007340&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=9567867304&utm_term=7223811&utm_content=shopping&utm_custom1=99275640438&utm_custom2=844-913-7556&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7Nj5BRCZARIsABwxDKIaTQ2Mp3tEP8_OsxXn5lF9mSy9qNkWlcRx51ueBHQmtL0fCHrbHwsaAu4CEALw_wcB

and filled the drawers with - a ream of blank printer paper from supermarket (cheapest way to buy paper), coloured card, a wallpaper sample book (I remember I'd loved using these as a kid) colouring pens,pencils and crayons, stickers, googly eyes, Pipe cleaners, fluff balls, glitter pens, glue sticks, crepe paper, old newspapers and magazines that she could butcher to her hearts content without risking the wrath of mum who hadn't read it yet Grin, paper scissors, stencils, a roll of tin foil (this went down a treat! And stopped her keeping using up mine! And was one of the cheapest items!) ... you get the idea

She's almost 20 and she STILL cites this as one of her favourite presents ever! And that's even though in later years (and thanks to generous relatives) she had a wii and a Nintendo ds!

That set of drawers and it's contents lasted her ages and it was easy and cheap to top up and provided ideas for others to get her wee gifts too through the year. My sister was working in an office at the time and would bring her scrap (printed on one side no longer needed and not inappropriate or sensitive info on it) paper to draw away on and it would be proudly stored in the drawers for later use. I bet if you ask at college they might be able to help with something like this?

If you ask on here people will be MORE than happy to make suggestions there's LOADS you can do to make Christmas cheap but heaps of fun!

Graphista · 15/08/2020 02:48

Geez that's a long link BlushGrin hope it works!

Durgasarrow · 15/08/2020 05:31

get that coil and get rid of that no good man. You will never see that money, but it will be cheaper than keeping him.

Butchyrestingface · 15/08/2020 07:12

More red flags than a communist parade. 🚩

Get shot of him and enjoy college.

Suzi888 · 15/08/2020 07:57

@Graphista those crafty drawers are a good idea! @mrsstrange245 Good luck, take care xx

Graphista · 15/08/2020 11:34

@Suzi888 thanks. It was definitely a case of "necessity is the mother of invention" I couldn't afford the "fancy" colouring pen/pencil sets dd coveted. And at the time she was a bugger for cannibalising my magazines (that I'd not finished reading!) and using up all my cooking foil to make "stars" on her collages! So it wasn't entirely unselfish Grin

My brother and sister who've also been single parents at stages (brothers ex died in a car accident) have had similar moments of "creative inspiration" to satisfy their kids interests without spending a fortune they didn't have.

As pps said, it's not about the money spent, not really, it's about the thought and effort you put in to understanding their interests and finding ways to connect to that and creating fun and personal moments.

As I say dd and I were NEVER well off it was often a struggle financially and at the time I worried FAR too much that I'd let her down and yet she's 20 next birthday and when I talk to her (and her friends - that's kind of the real test what she tells them) it's the fun, good times she remembers most.

Carpet picnics and "freezer roulette" (an mn phrase) which were necessary as I was too skint to get food to make "normal" meals, "cinema" nights at home as too skint to go to actual cinema, "disco" (showing my age there!) nights at home, "exercise classes" at home, "fashion parades" which helped me know what clothes she'd outgrown but also meant I taught her how to extend the life of clothes which she still enjoys doing to this day - jeans turned into shorts, long sleeved tops turned into t-shirts, full length tops turned into crop tops, clothes that had met mishaps (like colouring pen stains, paint spillages) dyed or used as "creative wear" as they're already marked anyway! Her better off friends have been surprised and impressed when she seemingly naturally altered and mended clothes according to her needs eg one time she had 2 jackets that one the sleeves were wrecked the other she'd spilled ketchup on the front so she took the sleeves off the stained one to replace the sleeves on the other. Her friends didn't even know you could do something like that. Even daft things like seeing or ironing on a "badge" to cover a stain or tear but done in such a way it wasn't obvious and just looked like "customising"

Sisters eldest at one point was into "go kart" type toys but sis couldn't afford the fancy ready made ones so taught him about scrap yards and salvaging items from other toys to make them - some were right crackers and really fast! Nephew was the envy of his friends and helped them out repairing their similar toys when they met mishaps

One of my brothers kids is a budding music producer, bro couldn't afford the "proper" kit but together they've learned how to cobble together turntables, recording (and soundproofing!) equipment, microphones etc from household items and parts of related items found in charity shops and gumtree etc. It's resulted in DN accidentally finding ways to create interesting sounds and effects.

So op PLEASE try not to worry about not being able to provide your little girl with a great childhood. You absolutely can.

Suzi888 · 15/08/2020 12:45

Absolutely @Graphista I’ve been lucky not to have money issues. I’m not loaded but comfortable and I have been guilty of taking my now four year old shopping and let her pick what toys she wants- just random shopping trips. Stupid! Last Christmas she got more toys than she could open and she just climbed in one of the toy boxes and cried when I wanted to chuck it out. Her toy room is bulging with things she doesn’t play with and slot I’ve taken to charity.
She just wants me to play with her, spend time with her. She loves hide and seek, tag and being in the garden.
I’ve changed jobs and reduced my hours by half now as I realised what was important to her and us as a family.
I never had all these toys as a child (so wanted to indulge her) like you said my memories are of family time and playing with my cat and dog. Too much emphasis on material items these days, which results in entitled brats at times.
You’ve listed some very good ideas there! I’ll be trying a few.

CorianderLord · 15/08/2020 22:00

I'd sit him down and teach him what the coil actually is as he sounds mis-informed.

Also, it's not his business.

Also you're only 21!

mrsstrange245 · 17/08/2020 07:06

Thank you there are some really good points that's a really good idea about the Christmas craft stuff will give it ago as she loves stuff like that! X

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NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 17/08/2020 07:50

If he wants to have a say in contraception he can get the snip. Or keep his opinions to himself. Does he bully you a lot OP? Cos that's what it sounds like to me Sad

Graphista · 17/08/2020 11:54

Glad to be of service op

Meanwhile are you ready to boot the cocklodger ?

mrsstrange245 · 19/08/2020 16:26

I'm ready to leave him I'm sick of the hurtful things he says I'm letting him walk all over me while Iv more important things to worry about than him I will be better off
Thanks you so much everyone!!

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