Woman at GP surgery today.

[itsgettingweird]

So today I had to go to GP for a procedure.

Got there and waited as per instructions on door because someone was in reception.

I also rang the buzzer so they could wave me through to waiting area if I wanted.

I had put my mask on.

Lady (60's maybe?) came right up next to me and stood. I obviously moved away for social distancing.

Then asked me if I'd rang bell and I said yes, was waiting as someone in reception area already.

She then opened the door, went in and waited in reception against rules. Rules are clearly A.G. eye sight level on the door we were stood at. It also says read before entering! So I then had to wait outside even longer.

AIBU to think she's a dick and also reception should have sent her back out as per the rules. I accept they may not have clocked me so couldn't also tell her to wait her turn!

I just think it's going to become much harder if people who decide the don't care about rules start getting ahead of those who are following them. It may lead to more and more people giving up on them?

@Jargo

Maybe she was sick and needed to be seen quickly.

Nah! She was still waiting when I went in.

She also knew the rules as she mentioned them. And I couldn't go into reception and calm her out. That was unfair in the person already in there who already had someone stood 1/2 m from them. Whole atrium is only about 2.5m2

You know what they say about assuming Jingling.
You must do, as you seem very good at it given your input on this thread.

Weird. Not heard of anyone having to do this. My GP surgery waiting room is open as normal. No buzzing for entry. They have removed the seats, though, so you need to stand up inside.

Are you sure she was literate? You can’t assume everyone is.

@AnneOfQueenSables

She might have poor eyesight. She might be dyslexic. If your GP's door is anything like our's there's always lots of rubbish stuck on it so people become accustomed to not reading the posters on the door.

Well she may not be able to read. But I explained I'd buzzed and was waiting as it says to enter as person comes out and there's someone in there.

She just then decided to push past me and go in anyway.

And maybe I am sensitive. But I've been bleeding for 7 weeks now. Feel dreadful. Very anaemic and also find standing difficult.
I was having an coil fitted and ended up passing out as it was done due to the pain and already low B.P.

So no - I don't think she had any reason to ignore the rules and push in or think I had no right to expect people to wait as per the rules.

But accept my current very ill health may have made me over sensitive to others being stupid.

I don't think age is relevant and I say that as someone not in their 60s

I would have walked in after her and told her she needs to come and wait outside after me. I can’t be doing with people thinking they are above the rules

@LadyofTheManners

This post and many of the replies here shine a light on what is wrong with the UK OP is queuing, following clearly laid out instructions. She is queue jumped by a moron with no manners. Sorry but manners are important and still exist, granted the way people show an air of total ignorance to them is true but manners cost nothing and age is not a factor in it. Excusing it due to the age of the woman is ridiculous. OP, I would email the practice manager and make them aware that their systems have failed and left you outside for longer than necessary because the ignorant old crow who pushed in.

Yeah and it's all excuses for that lady.

But yet I'm the dyslexic one, I'm the one who's been ill for weeks and I'm the one who's mum is dying of cancer and so has obviously struggled even more as very worried about why I've bled so much for so long.

I agree it's the problem that everyone always has an excuse why.

She didn't go straight in blah blah. She stood in the atrium with reception right behind the person already in there, checked in the same way I did and waited in the waiting room and was still there where I went in.

@JinglingHellsBells

You've misunderstood my post.

It was unclear @TheQueef

Should have perhaps said 'Why is age relevant?' As your post implies you agree with the OP.

Aye right? Silly sausage

At our GP surgery you can't get in without them opening the door. They have made a window an outdoor 'hatch' area and it acts as reception while patients wait outside in the cold/hot sun/rain to be seen. Prescriptions and other stuff is handed out through the window. Only if they consider it necessary and you've a genuine appointment do they press a button and you can get inside. Otherwise no. Saves all the problems as outlined in this post.

61 messages about Q-jumping but nobody complained at the time the QJ happened .... how very British!!

Ime people ring the bell/buzzer and then stand right by the door. The next person has no choice but to get close to them.

It is also my experience that GP receptionists (and others that don't usually have a door between them and the public they are paid to face) are particularly enjoying the rules and enforcing them.

Probably age relevance, she probably didnt realise.
Old lady pushed in front of me on the post office, clearly didnt realise, I let her go first, checked with the person behind me, all good

@lljkk

61 messages about Q-jumping but nobody complained at the time the QJ happened .... how very British!!

Well to go in and say something it would have been 3 people in a space that was only meant for 1. Only room for 1 to SD as although glass screen they have a marker for the person to stand back.

I was annoyed but more concerned that as we head towards winter and greater risk people are going to stop following the rules because others aren't and therefore are pushing in.

@Jayaywhynot

Probably age relevance, she probably didnt realise. Old lady pushed in front of me on the post office, clearly didnt realise, I let her go first, checked with the person behind me, all good

She did realise! For a start when she stood right next to me and I moved away I explained why I was waiting and what rules were.

She may nit agree but it's still wrong to force your opinions and own wants above others who are following guidance.

But yet I'm the dyslexic one, I'm the one who's been ill for weeks and I'm the one who's mum is dying of cancer and so has obviously struggled even more as very worried about why I've bled so much for so long.

You know nothing at all about the other woman's circumstances. You just assume that your suffering, your disadvantages, are greater than hers.

Why not try thinking kindly of others, as you want others to think kindly of you?

OH this irritates me.
Woman is rude and entitled but OP has to "be kind" about it.

Jeez.

@Chitlin

But yet I'm the dyslexic one, I'm the one who's been ill for weeks and I'm the one who's mum is dying of cancer and so has obviously struggled even more as very worried about why I've bled so much for so long.

You know nothing at all about the other woman's circumstances. You just assume that your suffering, your disadvantages, are greater than hers.

Why not try thinking kindly of others, as you want others to think kindly of you?

Not at all.

I added that because everyone said I should have just stood there and let the woman push in because I didn't know what she was going through.

So I pointed out all the reasons I should apparently have allowed her lush in were actually applicable to me - yet I shouldn't want to have my turn when it comes.

MN is completely bonkers at time's.

I thought several people said you should have spoken up, as then you would have found out what was going on.
Just because she knew you'd buzzed didn't mean she understood that she wasn't allowed to go in. She might have seen you standing there, assumed the door was locked, then when you said you'd rung the bell she tried opening the door and thought she could go in.

@ravenmum

I thought several people said you should have spoken up, as then you would have found out what was going on. Just because she knew you'd buzzed didn't mean she understood that she wasn't allowed to go in. She might have seen you standing there, assumed the door was locked, then when you said you'd rung the bell she tried opening the door and thought she could go in.

And everyone that bothered to read the thread would know I told her I'd buzzed because someone was in reception and no one can enter until they come out.

And I wasn't going into a reception space where 1 person is meant to be just to point out she's an arse. That wasn't fair in the person already in there.

She knew. She came up. Didn't but here social distancing and then did exactly what she knew she didn't do.

This thread wasn't about if she was right or wrong - because she was clearly in the wrong.

But clearly about whether people felt the guidance would stop being followed by more and more people if following it disadvantaged you against people who couldn't give a shit.

Just speaking from my own experiences of either not looking/understanding properly myself, or seeing other people also acting totally cluelessly, even when something appears to be clear.

I was once at a till in a department store when two paramedics rushed up with a defibrillator and barked at the cashier, asking where Till 7 was - clearly someone was having a heart attack there. The cashier was so busy with the till that she didn't even notice their medical outfits or the defib, and tutted at them for their rude interruption. People really can be pretty slow in my experience, me included! I guess if you're quick on the uptake then it's hard to relate.

But hopefully you've got it off your chest here a bit.

I am dyslexic and have Graves Disease. My mum and dad have alife limiting conditions, another relative I care for is dying of Cancer (of which I currently have all the same symptoms and risk factors), my son has growth issues and so we are always going to the GP. Half the time I barely function. But even I wouldn’t begrudge an elderly person from going in front of me. Honestly you need to get a grip of yourself.

@GrumpyHoonMain

I am dyslexic and have Graves Disease. My mum and dad have alife limiting conditions, another relative I care for is dying of Cancer (of which I currently have all the same symptoms and risk factors), my son has growth issues and so we are always going to the GP. Half the time I barely function. But even I wouldn’t begrudge an elderly person from going in front of me. Honestly you need to get a grip of yourself.

She wasn't elderly! And I got told off for mentioning her age in the OP!

I was there. She didn't give a fuck about rules. She came and stood right by my side in front of the door.

This isn't about if she was BU or not because I was there, I know she was and I've said she was.

This is about how the whole guidance and people sticking to the rules could be at risk because you are disadvantaged by following guidance.

But the whole attitude on here of people clambouring over themselves to try and prove this ladies needs must be greater than mine to excuse her behaviour is utterly terrifying.

We are entering extremely dodgy social norms as a society which I fear this pandemic is actually magnifying.

Shit happens. It is no big deal and the chances of catching Coronavirus are massively exaggerated by the Government, the NHS, and the media who are all as bad as each other.

@Noextremes2017

Shit happens. It is no big deal and the chances of catching Coronavirus are massively exaggerated by the Government, the NHS, and the media who are all as bad as each other.

That's ok then. Because Covid is exaggerated people who don't want to queue should just be allowed to push in

This pandemic risks being so decisive between people who will follow rules regardless and those who think they don't have to and putting others at risk is fair game.

I'm not even concerned I could catch it. My town has had 2 cases in 18 days. Plus I already had it suspected in March.

But as I can't tell who knows that by looking at them I respect others and follow the guidelines.