To think some swearing in a pub is expected?

[PrincessHoneysuckle]

Just had a two day one night away at a coastal town in the North with dh and ds 6.We went to a couple of pubs in the evening en route to the restaurant we had booked.We sat outside as didnt feel comfortable being inside due to covid.A group near us were swearing a bit which wasn't ideal as we were with ds but it was a pub so just one of those things,adult environment etc.
Mentioned it to a friend and she was outraged that someone would swear near a child and couldn't believe i wasn't fazed.Is she being ott or am I in the wrong for not seeing it as a big deal?

Unless it’s One of those godawful family pubs with soft play then it’s very much an adult environment and swearing is to be expected.

Pubs are by definition adult environment....

I refuse to modify how and what I speak about if someone chooses to go to a pub with their kids rather than go to restaurant or cafe...

A bit of swearing in conversation I don't mind. Every other word being an F or C-word would make me uncomfortable.

She is ott. If I go to a pub I will most certainly not think if children. Unless it's a family thing pub. In which case I wouldn't go.

Normal adult pub in the evenings then yes I would expect some swearing.

There's no swearing in Samuel Smith's pubs. The owner of the chain banned it a few years ago.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/01/samuel-smith-pub-boss-anti-swearing-crusade-sacked-on-spot

YANBU. I don't centre the children of strangers around me. I do think a lot of what is wrong with parenting is that people expect others to do just that.

In an adult environment as a parent it's up to me to explain that some people swear but it's not ok for the kids to repeat

Yeah it was a "normal pub" I see pubs as adult environments that just happen to let kids in.It was 5.30pm we weren't pub crawling with our ds

If I'm in a soft play environment, I mind my F's and C's. If I'm in a pub, I don't. If people choose to take their kids to a pub (and I include myself in that, with my kids), then they need to understand that people aren't going to necessarily edit their language and behaviour to U rating.

@PrincessHoneysuckle - you lost me at We went to a couple of pubs in the evening en route to the restaurant 😳😳😳

Your friend is unreasonable! Its an adult environment that people sometimes take children to.

YABU OP. There’s no need for anyone to be mouthing off outside pubs, children or no children. Just shows how low standards are in Britain. It’s unpleasant for a lot of adults, let alone children. Unfortunately, people are increasingly obtuse, selfish and socially inept these days, it seems.

However, the reality is that people do use language that other adults may choose to take offence to, in an adult setting. Which is something one ought to factor into any sort of decision about taking our precious offspring whose ears should not be sullied with such vulgarity, into such environments.

@letmethinkaboutitfornow why? We were in beer gardens then ate outside

We were in the pub garden the other evening with ds10, some twenty somethings turned up and were swearing with every other word so we left.

It was annoying but it’s a pub and I can’t expect them to moderate their disgusting language (not being a snob, I’m a sweary Mary when the mood takes) as it’s an adult environment so you either have to suck it up or leave

Sorry OP, but visiting a couple of pubs before going to another place to eat with a 6 yo in tow might indicate alcohol problems. It might be just me but that’s certainly not the norm in my circles. Nor is swearing but as @Capr1said, standards might be low for some others in the U.K. 😔

"Sorry OP, but visiting a couple of pubs before going to another place to eat with a 6 yo in tow might indicate alcohol problems."

Jesus wept. Did OP even say what she was drinking? A couple of beers in a sunny beer garden followed by a meal? Get yerself to AA immediately!!

Our local Sam smiths pub has added swearing to the things banned in there.

YANBU. I’m careful with my language when there are children around but I wish pubs were an adult only environment so won’t moderate my behaviour when there are kids present in pubs, I’m don’t swear much in any case, but if I want to, I will 🤷🏻‍♀️

Sorry OP, but visiting a couple of pubs before going to another place to eat with a 6 yo in tow might indicate alcohol problems

Get a grip

If you don't want to hear swearing then it's probably best you don't send your kids into a pub (unless it's specifically a family area). Same goes for a football match for example.

People can't expect everyone to adapt to you and your family.

Yes, I'd expect some swearing at a pub, and unless things have changed hugely since my young day, any school-aged child will have heard at all already in the playground.

I used to work in a pub attached to a restaurant and people would come in for a meal and leave their kids in the bar to 'play' pool and have some child free time presumably on a busy Friday night, then come and whinge at me that people were loud and swearing, and frightening their kids. It's a pub, not a crèche. If you take your kids to the pub especially of an evening, YABU to expect everyone else to moderate their behaviour. Get a babysitter or take your kids somewhere child friendly.

I have been in a pub beer garden with DS today watching the rugby, somebody swore and immediately apologised which although I appreciated the thought my response was “don’t worry about it”

@letmethinkaboutitfornow 🤣 no alchohol probs here thanks