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AIBU - people need to stop enabling her horrid behaviour

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PeoniesGinandBags · 31/07/2020 09:57

My sister is and her husband live a pretty closed off life... lovely home, he has a good job and they pretty much do everything together. Their social lives don't really exclude each other from any aspect. That wouldn't be for me, my DH like to do things together but also separate to each other (!) and have our own groups of friends. Just mentioning this for context as it's one of the things my sister thinks is 'odd'.

Recently my work has changed so that, like most people, I'm working remotely. I was furloughed for 6 weeks but since then it's been as full on as usual. DH works away so with having my daughter at home (6) it's been really busy for me trying to juggle.

Sister does not have children and is currently not working (her choice, they can absolutely afford for her not to) while she decided "what she wants to do next". She's applied for a few jobs and each time, she's asked me for help with her application which I've done, even though it's been tricky as I've been ridiculously busy.

Whenever I have asked sister to help with childcare at all. She always says no and does have an excuse. I know this might be plausible but it's literally every time. I don't ask a lot, just because she makes it so awkward. Think perhaps 4 times over the last year. During my working-from-home, I asked her to help one morning, she said no, and I've not asked since. BTW she's an ex-primary school teacher so it isn't as though she'd feel out of her depth etc.

Sister has a history of making really shitty comments to me and other family members, which everyone excuses as "she's in her own little bubble" and "that's just how she is". Things about my weight, personality, things Nan buys for her home being a waste of money etc etc. She's really upset people a few times but no-one challenges her on it.

Earlier this week she messaged to ask if I was around that day and I said yes but I was working (it was 9:30am). She then sent me a really shitty reply about not taking any time to see her, I was selfish etc etc. I told her it was 9:30am on a Tuesday and so like most people, I was working. She replied with some barbed comment about a commitment she knew I'd made with another family member for later in the week (I'd arranged to go for tea with an aunty that's been experiencing some poor mental health).

I replied that I'd made the arrangements last week, needed notice etc etc. Trying to appease her as everyone always does.

Today my Dad let it slip that sister had been to his house and told him that I "couldn't possibly be at work" as "everything is closed".,... making our like I'm some kind of bloody liar! As usual. he's then said "oh just ignore her. You know what's she's like" etc.

So, am I being unreasonable to now be at a point where I say that enough is enough? Surely the fact we're all pussy footing around her is contributing to her feeling that it's okay to be like this?

OP posts:
EKGEMS · 31/07/2020 11:55

Thewildonesneverfie I think you have a severe case of selective reading to come to the conclusion that the OP was asking for her sister to be her child minder

Tappering · 31/07/2020 11:57

Stop doing stuff for her. If she whinges then you can point out that she never helps you so you're treating her the way she treats you. You helping her is not going to magically turn her into the person you wish that she was.

Detach and ignore. If your dad starts to mention comments, then tell him you're not interested and change the subject.

User87471643901065319 · 31/07/2020 12:01

What do you mean by 'So, am I being unreasonable to now be at a point where I say that enough is enough?"
Don't drop your dad in it by repeating what was said to him. If you mean not doing things like helping with her c.v. that is fine. Also, speak out in future at the time things happen/are said. I probably wouldn't start raking up the past now though.

BlueJava · 31/07/2020 12:04

My advice would be to keep the peace with her (i.e. don't openly confront her) as this would probably upset your parents and not worth it in the long run. You risk alienating yourself from them if you are openly critical of her - and you probably don't want to drive something between you and your parents.

However, I'd absolutely stop saying yes to anything she asks for, but wouldn't ask her for anything either. It sounds like she doesn't help you anyway, so little point asking (i.e. if you'll lose nothing) but if she asks you to help then sorry you are busy. I think I would laugh off anything, for example she made you out to be a liar for saying you were working "Oh yeah I returned full time two weeks ago, she probably doesn't realise that lots of things have opened yet. Many people are still being very careful" and swiftly move on. I have a slightly different situation with MIL but that's how I play it.

Potatobug · 31/07/2020 12:08

She is a grown up who is a primary school teacher...why on Earth does she need help writing a sodding CV?

Gogogadgetarms · 31/07/2020 12:12

It does all sound a bit childish. ‘My dad said’ etc.
At the same time it is exhausting to constantly challenge someones behaviour. Even if you did, do you think she’d suddenly change or agree with you. Unlikely.

It’s up to you. Accept her for the way she is, a bit selfish and self centred. Expect no help from her and a one sided relationship or distance yourself from her and protect your own well being.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 31/07/2020 12:14

It’s true what a pp said - everyone tiptoes around difficult people because it’s easier than having them
sulking, flouncing off or throwing a tantrum. Or dissolving into tears because you’re being horrible to them! Even though they’re the one who was at fault in the first place.

I used to have a family member like this - it was decades before I finally boiled over and screamed at her. Amazingly enough it was a long time before she tried anything like that again - it was just a pity that
nobody had completely lost their rag with her before. We were all too chicken!

Elastins · 31/07/2020 12:20

What is it that you want to happen to going forward? I.e. what change is that you’re hoping for?

The answer to that needs to drive what you actually do no (even if yelling at her would be exceptionally satisfying in the short term)

theleafandnotthetree · 31/07/2020 12:21

I feel like I'm on another planet to some of the people who responded. OP, your sister sounds a complete and utter dose and I don't know how you haven't exploded by now with the comments, etc., let alone the mean-spiritedness of refusing to ever give you a dig out with your daughter who by the way is her niece. I don't know what you should do about it as such, other than having zero expectations of her and firmly refusing to do anything for her in return but I think I would be calling her out on it. Otherwise it would fester inside me.

ginghamstarfish · 31/07/2020 12:22

Get rid. You have no obligation to continue a relationship with a family member who you don't get along with/don't like/ treats you like crap etc etc. Lots of people would be happier if they just cut off contact in cases like this.

theleafandnotthetree · 31/07/2020 12:25

Oh and the answer is yes, people do need to stop enabling her horrid behaviour. Or at least you do, maybe then others will follow your lead and she'll either have a wake up call or fall out with the lot of you. That will be her choice.

Leaannb · 31/07/2020 12:27

I don't understand your upset about her not providing childcare. She is childfree why would she babysit for you? Just because you are family and you think she has all the free time in the world does not mean she is obligated to babysit and she is not selfish for not babysitting either

Kitkat09 · 31/07/2020 12:31

OP you have one.. I have 4 sisters and all are exactly what you have described.

hammie46i · 31/07/2020 12:34

I can't stand takers. I would start saying no (every time) to her requests for help and if she moans about not seeing you, tell her why: you're fed up of your relationship being a one way street. Maybe it'll make her think on.

GabsAlot · 31/07/2020 12:45

i dont have kids i still babysit if my dsis needs me-admittedly not often as we dont live near each other but it wouldnt just be a flat out no

your sister sounds entitled and rude bitchng about you to your dad that noones at work really?

Feedingthebirds1 · 31/07/2020 12:47

She's applied for a few jobs and each time, she's asked me for help with her application which I've done, even though it's been tricky as I've been ridiculously busy.

Stop putting yourself out for her. And even if it wouldn't put you out, unless it's something you want to do, say no. If she pushes don't get into an argument, just keep repeating the MN standard 'that doesn't work for me' - or put the phone down, or ignore her texts. She's going to bad mouth you whatever you do, so you might as well win your own freedom. And enjoy it!

Tistheseason17 · 31/07/2020 12:48

Just tell her no when she asks for your help. Simple.

MsEllany · 31/07/2020 12:50

I don’t think I’d be able to stop myself from texting her to stop being a dickhead. As if you can just drop everything to see her? She’s not working and has no kids, she has more time, she doesn’t text and ask if you have an afternoon free because everyone needs to commit to her timelines and requirements.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 31/07/2020 12:53

making really shitty comments to me and other family members, which everyone excuses as "she's in her own little bubble" and "that's just how she is"

People like this really get my goat!

Everybody makes excuses for them, and they just charge around being nasty to everybody because "it's just my way" and "what you see with me is what you get" and "I'm totally honest"

Well - no, you're NOT honest - you're blooming RUDE, and just because you aren't prepared to tone down your nastiness under the guise of being "straight" with people, it doesn't give you any moral high ground, and if this is "just your way", then get another way you self-obsessed nasty bag of concentrated bile!

In my experience these people

a) Never apologise - NEVER

and

b) are the first to complain if anyone says or does anything that they don't like (as you did when you weren't able to jump to her command

and

c) are hypersensitive to even the mildest hint of perceived criticism, bursting into tears or going into a huff over nothing

You are right, OP - people who ignore this type of behaviour enable it. And if it's because your sister is in"her own little bubble" then it's about time someone burst it for her.

Unfortunately, the entire family is likely thrush to her defence if you upset her, because of c) above, so pick your time and your words very carefully.

But, yes - as others have suggested, have a list f reasons (not excuses) why you can't do her CVs (tell her to copy off one of the many others you have completed for her), and don't do anything you don't want to just to keep her face straight.

There needs to be give and take in every relationship, and it seems that your sister is doing all the taking. Did your dad support you, do you know, when she said you "couldn't possibly be working" nd it was just an "excuse"?

Viviennemary · 31/07/2020 12:54

I think helping with a CV is a bit different from childcare. But still it's cheeky that she wants favours but doesn't do any in return. But from what she said she sounds a complete pain and has nothing better to do but annoy people.

burnoutbabe · 31/07/2020 12:55

even i, who has never liked kids. wanted one or looked after one, would say yes to my sister, in an emergency, asking me to collect a kid (who i assume is not in nappys) from somewhere 2 mins walk away to look after for an hour. (unles physically i was not there to be able to do it)

SchadenfreudePersonified · 31/07/2020 12:57

She is childfree why would she babysit for you? Just because you are family and you think she has all the free time in the world does not mean she is obligated to babysit and she is not selfish for not babysitting either

Er - because it's a kind thing to do for someone who has helped you out in the past?

Caryler · 31/07/2020 12:59

I get it, OP. I don’t think you are unreasonable to ask that of your sister once in a while, our family dynamic would absolutely follow this sort of way too. Its give and take and part of being a family??

But given that she is such a load, I would make it cut and dry. Ask nothing of her and assist with nothing. She sounds like a cow.

BurtsBeesKnees · 31/07/2020 13:04

She is under no obligation to help you with childcare 'your decision to have kids' but equally you are under no obligation to help her with her cv 'her decision to apply for a job'

I'd start to call her out every time on her double standards and general shitty, selfish behaviour

Potionqueen · 31/07/2020 13:05

Stop helping her out with cvs. Give no reason, just state you can’t help if she asks again.

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