To be disgusted with this woman

[Northernsoulgirl45]

So on This Morning the other day some fitness expert called anyone over a 16 lazy or having low esteem so and wouldn't work with them. Funnily enough is comments like this that contribute to low self esteem.

Aibu to be disgusted with this attitude and not even believe the statistics she spouted as fact. Apparently once you are obese you have double the sick days and shave at least 8 years off you life expectancy.
Ok I am not working full time but not had any sick days in years but dh has had 3 months off in last two years. So impossible to generalise.

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/tv/fitness-expert-who-wont-work-18640266

Wow she has serious issues.

I think she's talking about enjoying people. As a fitness entrepreneur she's just alienated a lot of potential clients surely.

She's right that people who are overweight are discriminated against in the job market, and that is even more true for women.

I honestly wonder if her choice of career is due to underlying issues because this is such a counterintuitive thing to say given her sector!

Stupid mare needs a personality transplant.

Look at the weekly threads we have on this topic. Plenty on MN will agree with her.

I think they bring people on and encourage them to say inflammatory, controversial things. It makes good tv.

YABU to get would up about it.

Wound! Not would...

Sounds like a lazy fitness person. Just wants the low-hanging fruit.

My running group is run every single year by an amazing woman. There is no one in the group who isn't old, overweight, injured, a bit shit, just learning. Every year many people go on to run for years. I've done it for three and just ran tonight. I didn't run for several decades. She's a good fitness guru. This Morning clearly had a shit one.

You don't have to like her attitude but why not believe the statistics?

I would say they are probably pretty accurate on a whole, that does not mean that every single obese person will take off more sick days, but that on average they do.

I mean smokers are more likely to take more sick days and shave years off their life expectancy too, it doesn't mean they all do.

I assume you believe the statistics for smokers though?

But her job is to make people fitter. That's her actual job.

If she thinks being obese is unhealthy on average, and it is, surely her actual job is to do something about that.

It's like me working in housing and saying, "homeless people have bad outcomes so I only work with housed people". Makes me a bit of a nobber, no?

Her attitude is crap but her stats are fine. Why don't you believe them?

Well, she isn't going to make a lot of money is she.

I'm a size 18. I work full time and my last sick day was in 2007 after surgery which had nothing to do with my weight.

I don’t understand. According to her argument this is exactly the group she should be working with in preference to those not overweight or on the lesser end of overweight yet she is saying these people do not deserve help to lose weight. Maybe I have misunderstood as I didn’t see the actual show?

The statistics are correct. Just because you personally haven’t had any sick days recently doesn’t make them untrue.

Everybody knows that being overweight for height is unhealthy..It is the ''Visceral fat'' is so dodgy and the impact it puts on knees and hips..
Everyone knows smoking is bad, too...and drinking to excess, and taking class As is bad.

But people still continue to do it.
{overeat, smoke, drink, &c}

What is very telling , people are getting fatter. In UK at least.

This wasn't so. Look at any street scene on you tube, from the 1960's...Everyone is slender.
There has to be a reason for this..

There are two 82 yr olds I know...One is built like a barrel, the other built like a Whippet...
The Whippety one walks many miles every day, {yesterday she did 13.5 kms} and the other woman can barely walk down her garden.

Whippet said she had a fat mother, and was determined not to end up the same... but she eats so frugally..like a bird...and very healthily too.

Her attitude is pretty bad. She should be more inclusive. As a nation we are getting fatter and it's getting worse.

Mumsnet has always had a problem discussing weight, alcohol and smoking in a rational way it always ends up in a fight.

I didn’t see the program so can’t comment on the size 16 thing, but in that article she speaks about ,”extremely fat” people, which arguably isn’t size sixteen. So not sure if there is some mis reporting some where,

She has false eyelashes, huge painted eyebrows, bleached teeth and highlighted hair - her own self esteem can't be that high if she needs all that imv.

It is probably best that she does not, the last thing somebody struggling with their weight needs is a judgemental cow for a fitness trainer!

She's a troll, don't feed her.

Fitness woman, that is, not OP.

bluntness this is my issue with the stats. I 1 in 8 applies to men with bMIS over 35 not women who are a size 16 plus . After all I am currently a size 16/18 with a BMI of 34. However I am short so argueably an average/ taller size 16 would more likely be overweight rather than obese.

I particularly take exception to the lazy bit. I have always exercised even when my BMI was 40 I would be walking everywhere.
This kind of nastiness does not help self esteem and the obevthing I have learnt is that the best health choices happen when I feel good about myself. Calling eveyone over a a size 16 lazy and unemployable whose life should be made as difficult as possible by limiting clothing availability ( yes she said that) is not a way to promote self esteem in that group.

I’m a size 18, and lazy. My self esteem would be better if I lost 3 stone.
However, that’s my own view and I share that with myself.

Sure, this woman shouldn’t generalise. The lazy isn’t nice at all. (Does she mean lazy in relation to exercise / being a client of a PT though?) HOWEVER, I do have a couple of friends who are long term obese and they have constant illnesses and on going health issues. People should acknowledge that obese weight is not healthy and will take up NHS resources. We all know booze and fags are not healthy, why is weight and bas eating such a taboo? It’s also not environmentally friendly at all. All that extra food and packaging, meat, dairy produce ( we know how bad they are for the world!).... plus all the extra fabric in the clothes - the price of which gets passed on to us slender people because they’d be uproar if you got charged more for your extra yards. Same goes for public transport....

I think her point was that you shouldn’t have self esteem in that group - you should feel bad about it and be motivated to change it to feel better. I think she is really saying body positivity shouldn’t come before health in a “I love my body just the way it is so I don’t focus on my weight”

Not saying I agree with her, but I think that’s the point of her message.