To be disgusted with this woman

[Northernsoulgirl45]

So on This Morning the other day some fitness expert called anyone over a 16 lazy or having low esteem so and wouldn't work with them. Funnily enough is comments like this that contribute to low self esteem.

Aibu to be disgusted with this attitude and not even believe the statistics she spouted as fact. Apparently once you are obese you have double the sick days and shave at least 8 years off you life expectancy.
Ok I am not working full time but not had any sick days in years but dh has had 3 months off in last two years. So impossible to generalise.

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/tv/fitness-expert-who-wont-work-18640266

She’ll lose money, so her loss!

I’m an 18 due to illness and disability. She sounds horrible.

. plus all the extra fabric in the clothes - the price of which gets passed on to us slender people because they’d be uproar if you got charged more for your extra yards.
Plus size clothes stores do charge more plus I remember buying a size18 top from a reglar stores plus range and later seeing an almost identical top in the standard range £2 cheaper.
Anyway I should expect this kind of response on here I suppose. After all one "lovely" poster suggested that overweight/obese should be deprived of access to the NHS.

button when I feel bad about my body it doesn't make me make good choices. It has the opposite effect.
Much of my recent rebound weight gain happened during periods of stress and poor mental health.
I actually need to love myself and be happy with my lot (body inncluded) to make good choices.
Obviously I can't speak for everyone but this is the way it is for me so imo fat shaming doesn't work.

People in glass houses, look at the state of her! Anyway she's got one of her wishes already, larger size clothing ISN'T readily available in shops.

I'm stunned that she thinks all overweight people are lazy, she should get onboard with the governments' new obesity strategy and let them know, they seem to think there are many, many reasons and it's actually quite complex.

Obesity IS a contributory factor in hundreds of health conditions. This 'anti-fat-shaming' culture helps no-one.

Anyone wanting to get fitter and lose weight should be commended and encouraged though. So OP, I wouldn't accept your obesity, you just accept that you will be healthier if you lose weight.

"That's biology not bigotry"

Hmm, she's nicked that strapline from somewhere else.

Her attitude sucks but her stats aren't wrong. They're generalisations which of course will have people either side of the line.

I was overweight but am trying with healthy eating and dog walking to change that for the better. I realised that when I'm overweight, all of my health conditions become a lot worse so it's in my best interests to lose the extra pounds

So let me ask a question, higher education levels also correlate to better health outcomes, would those who agree that overweight people should not have access to NHS also agree those without a degree be penalised, too?

what about those who practice extreme sports? they can cost the NHS? do they get penalised?

What if you are overweight but have a PhD? cancel each other out? slim but a smoker? it's silly really, no?

I think some people just enjoy the feeling of superiority that comes from being slim, and they like to think it is to do with personal virtue and not the complicated set of socio-economic, genetic and psychological factors actually behind the obesity crisis, maybe if you haven't achieved much else in life other than a low BMI fat phobia is comforting, but it helps no one else!

Saying plus size clothing being unavailable in shops will encourage people to lose weight is such tosh.

Her eyebrows are frankly terrifying.

I don't accept my obesity @underneaththeash.
My weigh has fluctuated lots during my adult life. Since 2018 I have dropped from a BMI of 40 to 29 by exercising lots and logging my eating etc on MY Fitness Pal
Since October things have been more difficult for unconnected reasons and during the early part of lockdown especially I regained maybe 30% of the weight I lost. Back losing again now but it is much harder this time round as the issues that contributed to the weight gain haven't gone away.
Yesterday I walked 15 miles and regularly walk at least 10KM per day.
Even though I am class one obese again and almost 50 I have no real health problems. Blood pressure, cholesterol etc etc all good. Although not accurate my Body Composition was done at a similar weigh to now and visceral fat levels were in an acceptable range. However I accept I was definitely fitter last year when my weight was back in overweight range so this is my initial target.

Look at any street scene on you tube, from the 1960's...Everyone is slender. There has to be a reason for this..

This is total bollocks! My mother was a size 18 in the 60s, my grandmother (her mother) was about a size 24 ALL THROUGH THE WAR YEARS and my paternal grandmother was a size 18 through the 60s and 70s. And they weren't the only fat women in the village! In fact looking back over photos of 4 generations, not one of my female relatives was slim.

"Look at any street scene on you tube, from the 1960's...Everyone is slender. There has to be a reason for this..

This is total bollocks!"

Well, no it's not total bollocks just because your family was large. The poster was probably not looking at your street! On average people were much slimmer.

Her attitude is shit. A decent fitness expert would encourage and help overweight people to be better, healthier versions of themselves.

I think overweight people should be incentivised, encouraged and educated to get fitter and slimmer. It’s in everyone’s interests to be the fittest and healthiest they can be. I once worked for a company that had all employees sitting at desks all day. They offered free gym membership a financial reward scheme connected to a fitness tracker. You earned money for working out.

I don’t agree with body shaming and I want people to feel good and confident about themselves; but there’s a lot of denial going on. Exercise and fitness should be as important to personal care as washing yourself and sleeping. Whether you are fat or thin, you are not looking after your body if you don’t get regular exercise. It has such a positive effect on both physical and mental health, and I doubt anyone who exercises regularly would say they don’t feel better for it.

what about those who practice extreme sports? they can cost the NHS? do they get penalised?
I mountain bike and I would actually be more than happy to pay an insurance to cover accidents. Luckily, I’ve never required NHS treatment through doing the sport, but I haven’t been mountain biking through the pandemic because I felt it would be unfair to risk putting unnecessary strain on the NHS.

I’m in no way suggesting overweight people should be charged for medical treatment, but I don’t see why we can’t acknowledge that overweight people often have additional health problems that will need to be treated on the NHS.

@Yesyoudoknowme

Look at any street scene on you tube, from the 1960's...Everyone is slender. There has to be a reason for this..

This is total bollocks! My mother was a size 18 in the 60s, my grandmother (her mother) was about a size 24 ALL THROUGH THE WAR YEARS and my paternal grandmother was a size 18 through the 60s and 70s. And they weren't the only fat women in the village! In fact looking back over photos of 4 generations, not one of my female relatives was slim.

Obviously the poster shouldn't have said everyone was slender but the fact that your family were overweight does not invalidate the fact that overall obesity levels were lower in any way, that's clearly nonsense.

As for the wonam on tv, she's entitled to her view, This Morning needs controversial guests to keep viewer numbers up, of course they will go for cartoonish ott people

@Yesyoudoknowme

Look at any street scene on you tube, from the 1960's...Everyone is slender. There has to be a reason for this..

This is total bollocks! My mother was a size 18 in the 60s, my grandmother (her mother) was about a size 24 ALL THROUGH THE WAR YEARS and my paternal grandmother was a size 18 through the 60s and 70s. And they weren't the only fat women in the village! In fact looking back over photos of 4 generations, not one of my female relatives was slim.

Wow like the op, you don't see how trends work. Just because your family were obese, that doesn't mean it wasn't less of an issue then. Of course there was less obesity in the 60's. Much like op not believing the stats on obesity and sickness because it isn't her experience (yet!). Trends and stats look at the whole population, not just the person reading them!

Also, a size 18 in the 60's was not what we know a size 18 to be now. Sizes have changed and perceptions have changed. Because most people were much slimmer, she will have felt extremely overweight and will appear so in photos with others. I was an overweight child and teen, biggest in my class. Constantly reminded by classmates and even family. Really affected my self esteem. Interestingly when I look back at photos, I don't look overweight really when compared to the size of children now. But I WAS overweight and very few other kids in my school were at that time so it was very noticeable.

I think some people see celebrities like, say, Madonna, who is awesomely fit already, with their personal trainer and think it would be a brilliant job. Then are disappointed to discover that most people who hire a personal trainer do so because they don't have a lot of will power and need extra help to get fit.

It's similar to when I considered teaching, I imagined imparting wisdom to a rapt class of intellectual little sponges . . . the reality is 10% of students are like that and it is a constant battle to get the other 90% of students to engage, pick up their pens and do something - anything!

I could find other examples - you think hairdressing is glamourous, but you end up doing a lot of shampoos and sets for old ladies.

Working in the health sector sounds rewarding as you are saving lives but we all die in the end.

A lot of jobs are a bit disappointing when you actually do them.

That's just it though. I belong to a group who walk for mental health benefits. Exercise is my self care and I resent being classed as laxy because my clothes are a size 16/18 at the moment. I cant wait to get back to the gym and pool too.

Her attitude stinks, but at the same time, why can't we accept that there are indeed many lazy people. Just as there are nice and not nice people, clever and not so clever, well mannered and very rude etc...

Yet the moment it is mentioned that laziness could be a factor in the lack of achievement, it's considered uncall for.

Laziness is part of our life and growingly so. It is very hard to work with lazy people but it's not impossible as indeed, for many laziness is the output of low self-esteem rather than bad habits or natural disposition. Even the latter can be helped though and a motivated professional should target every type of people coming to them for support.

It’s perfectly true that people were a lot slimmer in the 1960’s. There was usually just one fat kid in each class of 30 at school. Now it’s half the class. And clothes sizes were very different - a modern size 12 has the same measurements as about a 1960’s size 16. I had a 22 inch waist in the 1960’s and wore a size 10 in those days.

'Poundland Katie Hopkins' 😂

A fitness instructor who won't work with unfit people is as much use as a dentist who will only work on perfect teeth. She's a clown.

Yes don't there are lots of lazy people of all shapes and sizes around. My dh is definitely lazy. He does absolutely no exercise whereas I do loads.
Yet this lady and lots of others would look at us together and think I was the lazy unhealthy one due to my weight. It is very wrong to generalise in that way.

"The way a person presents themselves physically says as much about them as the credentials they can list on a piece of paper."

I'm with Bluemooon. What does bleached hair, fake eyelashes, slugs for eyebrows, an inch of makeup and what I reckon are false boobs say about the persons self esteem. Her looks are an optical illusion.