To not see a solution other than not using my garden?

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Or moving (which for various reasons I can't do).

My neighbours, family A (one side - other side are elderly and largely housebound) are arseholes of the highest order, as are their kids. They are pally with other neighbours, family B, between them they have 9 kids who are all pretty poorly behaved.

On a daily basis they ride bikes and scooters in my front driveway which is bad enough but the real issue is in the back garden.
As kids (often with Bs kids as they are in and out of each others gardens and houses constantly) deliberately throw balls, toys and indeed their rubbish into my garden.
They play ball up against my fence constantly (they broke the previous fence)
Let themselves into my garden - the gate is locked but they have climbed the fence before now
When I'm out in the garden they name-call me and my children. Or bang the fence constantly.
They sit on top of the fence and look into my house.

I hardly ever go in the garden now. What was a lovely space (it's a good size about 80ft x 40ft) is now completely overgrown.

I had a gardener round today and they all started banging on the fence. Then standing on it shouting for their ball etc. The guy said 'is it always like this?' and I said sadly yes. Wouldn't blame him for not taking the job!

I have in the past told the children to stop. This resulted in Dad B telling me he would sort me out if I ever spoke to his kids again. Mum and Dad A said kids were just being kids and they were doing no harm.

I contacted the police about the threat from B. They said as nothing had happened they wouldn't get involved. I explained about the kids but as they are all under 13 the advice was I should try not to antagonise the situation ie stay indoors. So that's what I've been doing.

I was hoping one or both families would move as they live in 2 bed houses but this doesn't look like happening anytime soon. I can't move. I would like to use the garden though but their behaviour makes it unbearable.

Is there anything else I can do to make it more tolerable? Or to stop me feeling sick every time I open the door hearing their screaming and banging, and seeing my fence shaking?

They open the envelope, the box opens and the cockroaches have a new home

Eurgh there's a risk though that they might take offence at Next Door and run back to the OPs house on their little roachy legs .

Glitter Bomb is easier , just as messy and glitter cannot run away

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Get a car and put the spiky cat deterrent on top of the fence. Say it's to keep your cat in your garden. Build something that will allow you some privacy like a wooden structure you can sit behind where they can't see you and grown trailing plants up it. Put a fence / gate around the driveway.

What nasty little scum bags. You really have my sympathy. Not fair on you or your kids not to be able to use your garden. I would try a trellis and and a fence round your front garden and I would go out in the garden as much as you can tolerate so they start seeing you there more - they may bore once they realise they can’t antagonise or affect you. A water sprinkler might be fun too.

These motion activated water jets are great. www.primrose.co.uk/-p-1907.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjer4BRCZARIsABK4QeXkZNRrK5BB_HKJta4QQO-6tvScyi_-FQ_Hyvq3iuIFfDVIylGcl7IaAo2pEALw_wcB

I’ve had experience of this unfortunately and retaliating just makes things worse. They’re the sort of people (morons) who just don’t give a damn about anything beyond their way of life. Parents just ignore problems, unless it’s brought to their attention and then they get nasty, and kids just running riot with no one to tell them otherwise.
My advice would be to get some cctv put up for the garden, make notes of everything that happens and get in touch with the council/environmental health.
It’s a long term solution unfortunately and if it’s successful just makes them someone else’s problem!
And in the meantime, if you feel up to it, get out in your garden with your family. Ignore any interruptions (idiots get bored easily when they get no reaction)
I wish you all the best x

Emptying out one of those cone fly traps into the garden is a genius idea, as well as attracting hundreds of flies they absolutely stink. Would be even better if you could somehow fire it across their garden and away from yours... water pistol in the middle of the night?? That smell would definitely deter their kids from playing out!

In *their garden, not yours!

Spiky plants and anti climb paint

@BillBaileysBum evil and genius! Lol

Unfortunately @theoldwrinkley is right; you do have to disclose neighbour disputes if moving. Although you may be lucky enough to find a buyer who is keen to buy in your area and won't be intimidated by some horrible kids.

That said, in your situation I would try and move, even if it means moving to a cheaper part of the country and renting your more expensive property out (ideally to the scariest, toughest tenants you can find!). As long as the situation is ongoing your house will never feel like a home and life really is too short for this shit. Best of luck

Noise cancelling headphones and plenty of no notice and no eye contact when in the garden. Hedging with thorns too.

You need to plant some pyracanthus wherever they climb over - bastard stuff and grows really quickly!

Add a trellis or 3 and grow something prickly up it - rambling roses are good.

Anti vandal paint is your friend. We were advised to use this by the police as we constantly had kids climbing on top of our garage/fence-as long as you put a sign up it’s completely legal. Trust me, when the kids go home with black, thick gloopy paint on their hands/clothes and traipse it’s through their houses they’ll soon stop bothering you.

The police aren’t interested because they’re crazy overworked but also as it’s a mostly civil matter and they deal with crime (although the threat and other stuff does feel more like harassment).

It might be worth speaking to your local council about noise. www.gov.uk/how-to-resolve-neighbour-disputes/complain-about-noise-to-the-council

Definitely don’t do barbed wire, if the kids get injured you might find yourself liable under occupier’s liability laws.

Really sorry you are in this horrible situation 😢

I don’t think you should do any of the suggestions re barbed wire/spikes etc. They sound like the sort of people who thrive on confrontation and would enjoy more opportunities for conflict. The mosquito anti loitering device might be worth a try. But this situation is making you so unhappy that renting out your home and moving really does seem like the best solution. You can’t reason with them and they are making your life miserable. Good luck!

Haven’t read your whole thread ... record and film them... build a picture of the reality you are living with and then you may get a notice against them ....you will struggle to sell at any time in the next 6 years without disclosure ...who would want buy with awful neighbours..so deal with it legally ..good luck and sorry it’s such a nightmare.

try growing things like blackberries against the fence and at some point chickpeas for a while, after a few stings from the cickpea plants they won't want to venture over again just make sure your kids learn not to touch them ;)