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What is that Tudor thing that falls out of women's knickers?

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FinallyRelief · 21/07/2020 19:31

Ok a while back there was this thread about what bleurgh things people have learned on Mumsnet and I've lost the name of it - but people/ladies of Tudor times - I think? They didn't wash so like would deposit things - mousekins? Moshekins?

It's disturbed me then and now I can't remember the name!!

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RuggerHug · 21/07/2020 20:53

Merkins were the wigs to hide that you shaved your pubes because of lice wasn't it?

oakleaffy · 21/07/2020 20:53

I googled ''sootikins'' and it is surely untrue.
Who would allow themselves to get so begrimed with ''soot'' in the genital area that the ''accumulations'' would ''fall out''.....

Not believing it at all. Even Tudor people had access to water to wash with, and as another poster has said, the vagina is a self- cleansing area of the body...one doesn't get buildups like a chimney..

oakleaffy · 21/07/2020 20:54

The cat called ''Merkin'' with explanation given is so sweet ''Found on your lap'' :)

AudTheDeepMinded · 21/07/2020 20:55

Are you on about decidual cast perhaps? (do not google some images are a bit strong).

Ninkanink · 21/07/2020 20:58

You’re thinking of sootikins which as others have said is a totally made up, misogynistic thing.

Decidual casts are very real, though, and, I think, quite incredible.

jokolo · 21/07/2020 20:59

It's not true. It's from this book, which is a joke book:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dictionary_of_Disgusting_Facts

The other facts on that page are not true either. Grin Oxford don Gilbert Murray never even had a son called Philip. They just said it to wind up Polly Toynbee.

The foreword is by Sir Les Patterson (Barry Humphries), which should give you a clue.

ChicCroissant · 21/07/2020 21:01

Threads you regret opening ... Grin

UndertheCedartree · 21/07/2020 21:02

I've had periods of bad self-care dure to MH and I can confirm nothing builds up like that if you don't wash!

ArriettyJones · 21/07/2020 21:04

@BertieBotts

I thought sootikins were real - I'm certain somebody on MN had one once and everyone was Shock - it's probably in Classics!
TBF there are quite a few works of fiction on Classics. Smile
Margotshypotheticaldog · 21/07/2020 21:05

Betteliefsen😊😊😊😊

BertieBotts · 21/07/2020 21:05

Ohh yes, decidual cast, that was what the MNer's mystery blob turned out to be. There was talk of sootikins on that thread which is probably why I got mixed up Blush

Margotshypotheticaldog · 21/07/2020 21:06

I'm going to have to Google decidual cast. Stand by with the smelling salts

Margotshypotheticaldog · 21/07/2020 21:08

Big mistake 😬

hilariousnamehere · 21/07/2020 21:10

Oh my god I wish I hadn't googled that Envy (not envy)

KetoPenguin · 21/07/2020 21:12

It's true the Tudors didn't wash with water but I read an interesting article about how they stayed clean by dry brushing and frequent changing of linen underwear. newrepublic.com/article/129828/getting-clean-tudor-way

ShebaShimmyShake · 21/07/2020 21:17

For curious people, it's a more solid mass of passed blood that has the shape of the uterus. Not the prettiest thing I've ever seen, but essentially just a kind of blood mould. Nothing inherently disgusting.

ArriettyJones · 21/07/2020 21:20

[quote KetoPenguin]It's true the Tudors didn't wash with water but I read an interesting article about how they stayed clean by dry brushing and frequent changing of linen underwear. newrepublic.com/article/129828/getting-clean-tudor-way[/quote]
It’s a myth that they didn’t use soap and water;

onthetudortrail.com/Blog/resources/life-in-tudor-england/tudor-hygiene-part-1-bathing/

RoyalCorgi · 21/07/2020 21:20

Glad others have pointed out that this is entirely fictional - it's amazing the number of people who believe it, though. I mean, just think about the mechanics of it - how could it possibly be true?

ArriettyJones · 21/07/2020 21:20

@ShebaShimmyShake

For curious people, it's a more solid mass of passed blood that has the shape of the uterus. Not the prettiest thing I've ever seen, but essentially just a kind of blood mould. Nothing inherently disgusting.
Uterus shaped?! How does it get past the cervix?
ShebaShimmyShake · 21/07/2020 21:27

Uterus shaped?! How does it get past the cervix?

I guess it opens up as it would for labour. As I understand it, it's basically when the entire uterus lining comes away at once and retains the shape. I'm not a doctor though, happy to be corrected.

As I said, not the prettiest sight in the world but effectively just a shaped mass of blood.

MissJacksonIfYoureNasty · 21/07/2020 21:36

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sooterkin
Giving birth to fabled creatures size of mice
sounds damn sight easier than a 53cm head circumference

WellThankyouAJPTaylor · 21/07/2020 21:36

[quote KetoPenguin]It's true the Tudors didn't wash with water but I read an interesting article about how they stayed clean by dry brushing and frequent changing of linen underwear. newrepublic.com/article/129828/getting-clean-tudor-way[/quote]
That was really interesting! Thanks for posting that,

AudTheDeepMinded · 21/07/2020 21:38

Anyone else clenching their undercarriages upon reading 'dry brushing'?

SarahAndQuack · 21/07/2020 21:48

The Tudors definitely washed with soap and water.

FWIW chastity belts (I've lost track who mentioned that) are also a myth.

People's clothes might have smelt (because washing things like velvet is quite tricky), but their bodies were probably fairly ok.

BertieBotts · 21/07/2020 21:53

I don't think they dry brushed their vaginas.

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