To think all keyworkers should have their tax stopped for the next two years

[marysuzairn]

All of those that worked throughout covid need to be rewarded. Why not just stop all tax for every nurse, care worker, teacher (and assistant), gas engineer, pharmacist etc. They kept the country going and weren't just at home on 80% pay (and actually better off with less outgoing). Isn't it time to now reward them appropriately?

Sometimes I wonder whether someone with such a woeful understanding of how the economy works should be allowed to vote. OP, with the greatest of respect, there is no magic money tree. The NHS and education are not funded by benevolent fairies. We are in economic shite up to our oxters and in the most basic of terms, we need more people paying in and fewer taking out. I'm assuming this is a wind up but if not then you really need to educate yourself.

Theres a lot that's unfair in this situation OP. I don't feel that nurses are particularly underpaid contraversially, but I know many people do. Care workers and TAs are not paid a fair wage though, and although many care workers aren't paid by the government, it would be nice to have an intiative in place to get a rise for them, especially as they have worked ridiculously hard with many in situations they haven't had training for, with woefully inadequate equipment and support.

I try not to be nasty when responding but seriously this is such a stupid idea! What about bin collection people? Shop assistants? There are so many other professions that I might have missed, The economy will 100% never recover at this rate.

Key workers had to be defined somehow but it’s not an absolute group where everyone in it is a hero and everyone not is a layabout. The whole situation is complex and nuanced and sorry but notions like key workers not paying tax are just silly. They are amongst the fortunate ones in some ways as they generally have earned consistently throughout, were able to access childcare and have relatively more secure jobs. Some people had to work throughout, had no childcare and could still be made redundant if the economy crashes.

Where do you stop-can parents claim back tax payments because they homeschooled their children having already ‘paid for it through tax’?

I think you’ve already accepted that this wasn’t a sensible suggestion so I’m not going to go on about it, and I do understand why a lot of people are angry and public sector pay. But this is not the answer.

Also how do you judge out if the professions you listed actually did their job? I know 2 people working in 2 different professions who were boasting how they did no work during the epidemic and just took the piss! One of them is a GP! There are lazy people in every profession how will you judge the fantastic people from the lazy piss takers?

I really am not too bothered about my personal tax bill. I’d far rather the authorities focused their attention on the billionaires who avoid paying their tax bills, the hypocrites who clapped every week and then vote against the protection of the nhs and the fuckwits who refuse to wear masks in enclosed spaces or wouldn’t social distance during the earlier stages of the pandemic.

I'm a key worker and work in Adult Social Care. I think it's a ridiculous idea. Social care is breaking under the lack of funding and you're proposing cutting income tax?

Congratulations, you win the award for dimmest person on the internet.

Will be hiding this thread

= Have had my arse handed to me on a plate.

@marysuzairn

I don’t normally swear on her but piss off with your

no the keyworkers list is actually very small, those that were important enough to need to work and the state had to provide child care for. It would be a drop in the ocean compared to furlough!

How dare you say that that a small group of people are the important ones ( and actually it’s not that small, there will literally be millions of people ) EVERYONE who worked through this had a part to play in keeping the economy going, making sure businesses still ran ( so the furlough bill was not higher) providing services of some sort etc, and for many that was whilst doing childcare, so actually thinking like you obviously do keyworkers could be considered to have had it easy! ( and I know they did not, hospital staff particularly have had a horrific time )

And I say again those on furlough still had to pay bills etc, but on 80% income that would be hard, if not impossible for some, plus many now don’t have a job to go back to, and lots volunteered to help their communities in some way, and those worse of than them

You truly are a horrible person

@Mirrorxx

Instead of those who have worked paying less tax I think those who were furloughed or the companies who used the scheme should pay more tax. At the be Very least those who were furloughed should have had to use annual leave and shouldn’t be accruing any leave

Is it 'Idiots Day Out' today?

Several posts on this thread just show people up for the brainless fools they are.

Let’s be fucking honest here
We ALL did our bit
Some of us stayed the fuck in
The others were keyworkers
We all suffered

Oh I see, OP. You are hiding the thread because you have rightly so had your arse handed to you? Sounds about right @marysuzairn

Oh get stuffed, OP, fecking sick of this hero worshipping, sick to the back teeth of being made to feel inferior because my job isn't as important as a keyworker role and fed up of those still bleating on about all the freebies and benefits NHS workers should get

Exactly.
I am so fucking sick of hearing the term 'keyworker'. It's ridiculous. And the cheek of some of them begging for things.

What !!!! I’ve been working all lockdown and I’m a single parent
And I pay a lot of tax
No ! 10000 times NO

Are you serious? I’ve not sat at home on furlough I’ve worked full time every day but not considered a key worker. You realise that every supermarket worker, call centres for energy, online grocery shops, BT etc all fall under the ‘key worker’ blanket?

I don’t hate the OP though
And am sure she has been so shit kicked

Wow the abuse

Jesus I don’t agree , as evidenced above

But really the insults ? Come in

Opinions are like arseholes
Everyone has one

As a nurse, although that sounds lovely- we are going to be in a recession for years! At least I have a job and relative job security- more fortunate than many currently

weren't just at home on 80% pay (and actually better off with less outgoing)

is this a joke? OP you clearly have minimal understanding of the lockdown experience of many.

I've worked the whole time from home whilst home schooling my son, do I get included?! No you cannot provide tax breaks for key workers, tbh I think most people should consider themselves lucky if they still have a job. redundancies are common at the moment and finding a new job is not as easy, If my taxes go up to cover furlough I'm alright with that. It wasn't their choice to be on furlough

Were you one of the key worker that demanded freebies without any shame/considerations that was posted on MN in the past?

How on Earth do you think that a tax break for keyworkers ( a very large and broad group of people) would benefit the economy given the massive debt burden that it has recently accumulated?
The words ‘cloud’ and ‘cuckoo land’ spring to mind.

@marysuzairn

Sorry wasn't meaning to offend anyone, I feel the pay rises is a joke as many haven't had a rise in years and are earning below in real terms. Will be hiding this thread

Instead of 'hiding the thread' try reading the posts and understanding the situation?

Jesus wept.

I think I'm going to stop replying to posters starting threads that are feasibly a wind up or posters that just don't have their full quota of grey matter.

They lack the decency to educate themselves

Key workers were fortunate enough to be able to access childcare (myself included) or school, rather than juggling looking after children and working from home etc

Those of us who were public sector Keyworkers with children below statutory school age who had previously relied on informal care arrangements due to shift work etc were absolutely screwed actually. Couldn't be furloughed for childcare reasons as public sector workers.

DH is also a key worker and was busier than ever, working 7 day weeks for weeks on end.

We haven't suffered financially but the impact of Covid on our mental heath as a family will have long lasting implications. No amount of tax breaks will fix that.