AIBU to report to federation

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I am a member of the WI. Meetings have been held over Zoom since March. I do not attend these meetings and have notified the secretary of my reasons why, namely due to privacy and security in that they do not lockdown meetings and also open up meetings to non-members. I explained that due to privacy and security issues I would not participate in these meetings as Zoom was not a secure platform. This month I had to notify the secretary of a change of address due to moving house. This is information which should be held under gdpr and all details secured. I did so via email and after she enquired about where I moved to ( it's a weird move) I explained. To my utter horror I found out that this information which should have been confidential was relayed in the Zoom meeting and later repeated and elaborated on in WhatsApp. I have expressed my anger and unhappiness at this to the secretary only to be met with the response "it just came up" . After saying that this explanation wasn't acceptable and asking to know who divulged my private information and why, particularly as I'm not in the meetings and there is no need to mention anything about me at all, I am being ignored. This was on Thursday. Would I be unreasonable to take this up with the federation rep on Monday as I have no response to my very legitimate concerns about breaches of confidential information.

Do you always look to take offence?
Stop being a victim over nothing.

@9PointsOnMyLicence so you would be happy for people you dont know to know where you live? I'm not playing the victim. Disclosing my private information when you are secretary of an organisation and meant to safeguard that isn't acceptable.

What is WI and federation?

Are you looking for opinions or not?
Or do you just want to hear from those who agree with you so you can justify your original stance?

Don't waste our time.

Presumably you know many if not all of the women who attend the meetings? Maybe even count some of them as close friends? It would therefore be totally understandable for the secretary to report to the meeting that so-and-so has moved. If your WI branch is anything like the ones i know of, there would have been discussion about sending a card at least so I can easily see how it would have been very easy for the actual new address to have come up in conversation.
Yes strictly and legally your actual address should not have been brought up in a meeting and I should imagine the secretary is mortified. Rather than reporting the branch to the regional rep, why don't you write to the branch chair and request committee members are reminded of the requirements of GDPR and for any record of your address be removed from minutes of the meeting. I would strongly urge you to use a more diplomatic tone in your correspondence with your WI branch. They are supposed to be friends with shared aims and interests. I feel that if you used the same tone in your communications with them regarding the Zoom meetings and your address change issues, as you used in your post you would be rubbing people up the wrong way to say the least.

With the greatest respect to the WI, I doubt very much if matters of high security and national importance are discussed at branch meetings. Groups and clubs have been using software such as Zoom to maintain social contact during lockdown and I think it is totally appropriate for the WI to do so. Your tone is unfortunate, even if your concerns for your own privacy and security are justified. Frankly I would think it highly peculiar if an active member of a group so linked to its local community, had not shared they were moving house.

In short - get over yourself

WI is the Women's Institute in the UK and the Federation is it's national organising body. It's a respected organisation with local branches; branches hold regular meetings, have talks, arrange charitable events and support members. All officers in local branches are volunteers.

Thank you!

I doubt very much if unsecured Zoom meetings of WI local group are being listened into by anyone other than members, let alone major crime syndicates or the security services.

If it just came up that you were moving from X village to y village I wouldn't. If it was the whole address then yes I would report it.

@DPotter Our WI is not that friendly as to send cards for house moving etc. I am friendly within my WI with about 20 members out of 50, but very few of those know where I actually live. We are very cliquish and form into groups, like reading group, crochet group etc. I have informed the secretary as I said of my concerns, they are being ignored, firstly I raised their lack of Zoom security and now their lack gdpr adherence. So no, I won't get over myself. Rules are being broken and treated as irrelevant.

If it was your actual address I’d take it further , if not I’d let it go. Had something similar happen to me and as I was in a safe house I had to upsticks and move

With the Russians apparently spying on us and the fear that the Chinese may do so, I would be very worried that the WI zoom calls may be listened into by one or both of them, so who knows what superpower now knows your address?

My address was identifiable not from the Zoom mention but was from the elaborated information given on WhatsApp which was readable by the same members. Given that my property is blocked out on Google earth streetlife I do feel that this is a massive security breach, yet is being treated as an irrelevance.

At least the Russians won't know it unless they can penetrate WhatsApp.

What was the context behind the sec giving out your address on What's app?

Are you some sort of spy? Have you gone into hiding? It's very peculiar that people you seem to share your free time with shouldn't know where you live. To answer the question, no I wouldn't be worried about people knowing my address. Most of my friends have been to my house.
By all means, remind them of the privacy concerns regarding sharing member data without permission. However, do calm down about people you know knowing where you live. How bizarre. What do you think they do? Pop round for a cup of tea and some cake without being invited?

It’s not on giving out your actual address.
If you’ve previously been a victim of stalking, harassment or DV then that is not acceptable.

‘To my utter horror’

You need help.

Seriously what do you think is going to happen? Are you worried the WI will TP your house?

YABU - massively!
Zoom - what the heck do you think you are talking about that might interest anyone else? Like Chinese or the Russians? 😱😱😱

You do sound quite unpleasant and a digital phobe
So it was not your full address just ‘identifiable’ 😔😔😔
You may want to consider leaving them if you disagree with its management (for their sake!)

Zoom has been used for government agency meetings throughout lockdown - it's totally fine for WI meetings, and now has end to end encryption for all users, so no one could have been "listening in" to a recent meeting. The issue of not having a password for a meeting is that a random person could join if they type in the correct meeting number, but the meeting host can kick them out - just like in a village hall. WhatsApp also end to end encrypted. Your concerns about security of the platforms are overblown and unjustified - there was never a reason for you not to attend.

They shouldn't have shared your info without your permission, but describing it as a "massive security breach" is a ridiculous overreaction. The ICO would not take much interest in this case, given the small number of people the info was shared with. Sure, report them to the federation if you want, but is it really worth burning bridges over?

There must be some backstory here which of course you have every right not to divulge.
Trouble is without knowing why you are so concerned about your local WI members knowing your new address it does all read a bit rigid and alarmist.
No doubt your info shouldn’t have been shared.
Asking for info on Thursday - give them a chance to find out and get back to you. I certainly wouldn’t call this ‘ignoring you’ yet.

A lot of people being dicks on this thread. Op I get why you're pissed off. Privacy is important. As one of the few non-dicks said: ask them to reiterate the importance of GDPR.

I don't get why some people on here are being so obtuse.

The Russians want the jam recipes- so they can weaponise them.

Like many things there is a range of opinions about privacy, but they breached gdpr and I would report to the organisation (not the ico, that would be overkill).

GDPR is currently our law and so you are entitled to your privacy.