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To spike my garden

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CuntingToms · 16/07/2020 13:13

Because of cats (I am a cat owner myself)

Name changed because combined with my other posts, info about problem neighbour could be outing..

Honest to god it’s really starting to get me down now.

My neighbour won’t neuter his cats, I dread to think how many are inside, the female is on heat every few months and the street is absolutely overrun with entire Tom cats now and they are really giving me the fucking rage.

It wasn’t too bad at first when it was just the one Tom, they are breeding and there’s now at least six entire toms I see (and hear) regularly!

A huge tray of violas binned after they constantly dug them up and left crap all over the top of them, a dead hebe from spraying it, dead herbs from spraying, sometimes I come downstairs and my whole downstairs heaves of cat urine where they have sprayed the front door.
Pooing on top of clumps of flowers, I’ve just seen one of them has pooed on top of yet more of my flowers and then scratched the shit out of the surrounding plants shredding them and no, they weren’t trying to hide the poo.
It’s sat right there in the middle as a clear territory marker 😡😡😡

I deliberately left patches of bare earth all over my garden specifically so the cats could toilet away from my flowers!!

My garden is their favourite haunt and I’m starting to feel like giving up trying to make it nice as they are just ruining it.

Am I allowed to put varying heights of cocktail stick/bamboo skewer all amongst my plants or am I going to be punished if one of the bastards lands on one and injures itself?

I can’t really cat proof it’s my front garden so ‘open’ massive fences and cat mesh will look really odd
😖

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RedOasis · 16/07/2020 17:17

Cats HATE tin foil. Put tin foil areound your plants. And put a sign in the garden “ uninvited feline guests will
Not be returned” or something lol

Fluffycloudland77 · 16/07/2020 17:24

That amazon mat you linked to is an injury waiting to happen. They’ll put their full weight on it, get an abscess & they won’t get taken to a vet by the sounds of it.

Your approaching this all wrong, the owners an animal hoarder or their breeding kittens for money & I don’t think HMRC knows about it if they are.

RSPCA are useless but cats protection might be of help. They’ll have seen this same situation so many times. It’s still worth reporting to the rspca though.

Sunnydayshereatlast · 16/07/2020 17:29

Water sprinkler system.

SaucyTrout2k · 16/07/2020 17:35

Water pistol like a super soaker or something. And try cats protection, if they aren’t chipped they will set traps and neuter and release. Sometimes it’s got to be done!

whiplashy · 16/07/2020 17:39

I can’t believe you’d be happy to risk an injured cat seeing as you are a cat owner yourself! shocking

ShesMadeATwatOfMePam · 16/07/2020 17:40

Plastic forks sticking out of the flowerbeds, prongs up. I'm past caring if they get a fork up the arse to be honest. I've also found that a deep layer of bark chips has deterred them but i don't have as many of the pests as you do. Also oranges and orange peel everywhere, as well as an orange repellant spray for keeping cats off. You have my sympathy. I fucking hate my neighbors cats, they shit all over my vegetable beds. If i mention it to the neighbors, apparently that's just what cats do. They aren't my sodding cats though I'm the one who has to deal with the consequences!

I borrow a relatives male dog to come and run around in the garden and mark his scent around the garden. That also helps.

youkiddingme · 16/07/2020 17:44

I use little sticks - helps me know where I've planted seeds as well as making it less like a comfy cat loo. Also holly cuttings. Also go around the boundaries with white vinegar - I squirt it with a washing up liquid bottle - it does seem to deter them until it gets rained off. Finally have a super-soaker or hosepipe to hand - bit of a spray usually deters them for a while.

CottonSock · 16/07/2020 17:47

I've laid old cds over my flower beds, the cats move them or shit on them.

I put bamboo poles all over, they push them over.

We chase them away..I did use a sonic deterrent, but can't now I have guinea pigs..kids hated it too.

Veganforlife · 16/07/2020 17:58

Hosepipe ,ready and waiting

bluefoxmug · 16/07/2020 18:04

we used a mixture of garlic and chilli powder (cheap in asian markets; ask for out of date bags) and skewers.
in one particular flower bed a layer of chicken wire kept the cats using it as toilet.

CuntingToms · 16/07/2020 18:08

That amazon mat you linked to is an injury waiting to happen. They’ll put their full weight on it, get an abscess & they won’t get taken to a vet by the sounds of it
I don’t really want to hurt them, I’m just so fed up of it. Like a PP sometimes I think I really don’t care anymore.

I have stacks and stacks of herbs that can’t ever be used for cooking because you don’t know if they’ve been peed on, when one has sprayed the door honest to god the smell hits you as soon as you come downstairs.
It’s so strong it permeates the whole downstairs for hours and hours.
I’m fed up of the poo, it’s deliberate, obvious territory marking.
Picking the most obvious, out in the open space and leaving it lying proudly and the turds are never solid, always massive, vile sloppy turds that stink to heaven.
My dog produces smaller, harder, less stinking poos.
And she’s at least triple the size of a cat!

Your approaching this all wrong, the owners an animal hoarder or their breeding kittens for money & I don’t think HMRC knows about it if they are
I think it’s both.

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Wife2b · 16/07/2020 18:08

Considering putting cocktail sticks down is fucking barbaric. I understand you’re pissed off but it’s the animal’s fault they have a shitty owner, your fight is with them not the cats. A water pistol will work fine.

CuntingToms · 16/07/2020 18:09

I meant to also say, the link says ‘humane deterrant’ So I assume the spikes are rounded or blunt?

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Sunnydayshereatlast · 16/07/2020 18:17

Deliberately setting traps to injure an animal will likely have you arrested op...

AddressLabel · 16/07/2020 18:24

@toucancancan

We bought one of these, as a local cat was using the garden to poo in: ]]

It worked, and the ginger tom doesn't come in the garden at all anymore

Does the cat setting ensure that the dog can’t hear it? I have half the village felines crapping in my garden and it’s a pita as I have to de-poo the garden everytime we use it or the dog eats it or the toddler stands in it.
ShesMadeATwatOfMePam · 16/07/2020 20:39

She isn't deliberately trying to trap them. Quite the contrary Grin I found the forks useful because the cat goes to squat down and finds something in the way. If it's something soft and comfy they won't care. If they get a spike in the arse they won't do it there again. Not sure why that's any less cruel than a hosepipe. Use holly branches if you don't want to use something man-made. Same outcome except the forks are harder for them to dig out/move. Can you cover the flowerbeds with gravel around the plants? You might need to do it quite thick but they're unlikely to dig down with gravel. If you ask on Facebook there's usually someone giving away bags of gravel.

andannabegins · 16/07/2020 21:06

I put pepper all over my front garden, within an hour next doors stupid cat case and crapped on it looking at me the whole time. Ffs

phenomenalcat · 16/07/2020 21:20

Definitely try RSPCA and Cats Protection from a welfare angle.
I read the other day you need to make the cat scared of the garden not you otherwise it's more likely to come back when you're not there.
So the idea of hiding in a bush with the hose or similar is a good one. You don't need to drench the cat, just scare them.
On a similar vein a sprinkler that is random could work if your garden is not too big.

Pepperwort · 16/07/2020 21:20

I find pepper, citrus and eucalyptus all work well enough, but they do need to be updated every time it rains and every other day or three anyway. It gets bloody expensive. I have used things like plastic forks and bits of sticks to block off particular areas. Ultimately if they've focused on you it's probably part of their territorial disputes and it's going to be expensive and difficult to stop. I have heard the sonic repellers are good if you find the right frequency that puts off each particular cat, but the best defence is always going to be an animal of your own. Can you let yours out into just the garden?

If the rspca specifically approached the neighbour, he’d know someone nearby who knew him and knew about the cats reported him, I don’t want neighbour tension on top.
He doesn't care about the tension, inconvenience, mess and exposure to disease which he's causing you, so stop worrying. Call for advice in the first instance. If he bothers you about anything going further, that's what police are there for.

phenomenalcat · 16/07/2020 21:20

Definitely try RSPCA and Cats Protection from a welfare angle.
I read the other day you need to make the cat scared of the garden not you otherwise it's more likely to come back when you're not there.
So the idea of hiding in a bush with the hose or similar is a good one. You don't need to drench the cat, just scare them.
On a similar vein a sprinkler that is random could work if your garden is not too big.

beatrixpotterspencil · 16/07/2020 21:23

grown a spine and deal with the owner.

if you are soulless enough to hurt the animals then I sincerely pity you.

backbone, grow one.

Sugartitties · 16/07/2020 21:24

cocktail sticks! fucking hell, that’s sick

Pepperwort · 16/07/2020 21:29

So is disease-ridden animal mess in your garden. I nearly put my bare hand in some the other day.

CuntingToms · 16/07/2020 21:38

if you are soulless enough to hurt the animals then I sincerely pity you.
It’s sharp sticks in the soil, the intention being to prickle the paws/make it uncomfortable to stand so they don’t want to stoop down and poo, not to spear holes in them Hmm

I fail to see how it’s much different to bramble sticks/rose cuttings/plastic forks/prikka strip tbh.

I suppose if a cat ran and jumped suddenly, if they were fighting for instance, they may be injured but it’s not to my intention to hurt them, I just want them to fuck off and stop coming into my beds!

In any case, any ‘pointy’ things like bramble cuttings (advised by PPs) could also cause injury if the cat was to run at speed over them.

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CuntingToms · 16/07/2020 21:40

And I’m not going to talk to the owner.
If he’s unreasonable enough to have hoardes of entirely cats pissing, shitting and fighting everywhere I don’t imagine any discussion about please neuter your cats going well, do you?
I really am not in the mood for a neighbour feud on top. No thanks.

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