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To not feel guilty about spending a week in Spain?

45 replies

madcow88 · 15/07/2020 10:32

I know I will probably get slated for this but I returned from a week in Spain in the early hours of this morning. I had an amazing week and I very much needed a relaxing holiday in the sun after recently having the 18th and 19th operation on my brain and spine. I wore a mask most of the holiday, washed my hands and maintained social distancing at all times. I also stayed in a villa and travelled in a car and didn't take public transport other than the plane. I didn't feel unsafe and I will be returning in September with the children.

Well my best friend has just called me and told me she thinks I am a selfish Madame to have taken the holiday and I have single handed contributed to a second wave of coronavirus that will kill thousands more people. It would also appear it is my fault that her DS won't be able to return to school in September due to the country being locked down again.

AIBU-to not feel guilty about going on holiday.
YANBU-she is right I have potentially caused a second wave of CV and I am a selfish twat!

OP posts:
EasterIssland · 15/07/2020 10:36

if she doesn't isolate til September then whatever she does might also help spreading the virus. in fact if she doesnt wfh and have enough food to last for 2 years then she'll be helping in the spread.

glad you enjoyed the well deserved trip.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 15/07/2020 10:37

YANBU. I was supposed to be going away on the 23rd and if it hadn't been cancelled I'd be going. Glad you enjoyed your break.

Powerplant · 15/07/2020 10:39

Ditch the ‘best’ friend.

namechange30000 · 15/07/2020 10:40

If my holiday hadn't been cancelled I would be going.

I'm glad you had a great time.

Notfeelinggreattoday · 15/07/2020 10:46

Doesn't sound like much of a best friend, as others have said is she staying locked in her house then
Also dont spain have their numbers below us currently
My nans friend said similar to her because my nan left her house to have lunch at my aunties ( all allowed ) but had to go in my aunties car to get there , but shes had to go in my aunties car to get to dr/ hospital appts , they both wear a mask etc
My nan was quite upset as its the only 2 reasons she has left house , lunch or medical and has followed all guidelines lives on her own , i told her to just ignore her friend as i would suggest you do to

Notfeelinggreattoday · 15/07/2020 10:47

Also i should been going to majorca tomorrow but it was cancelled otherwise would be so we are having a uk break instead , im
Sure some will flame me for that but we will be careful etc

EasterIssland · 15/07/2020 12:06

@Notfeelinggreattoday spain has got around 100 outbreaks currently and some areas have gone into lockdown (similar to Leicester's)

Alex50 · 15/07/2020 12:15

I’m going to Spain the end of August, I don’t feel guilty at all. My son is in Tenerife having a great time. I’m glad you enjoyed your holiday, ignore the moaning Minnie’s who want everyone locked up for at least another 2 years, life has to carry on.

Goingdownto · 15/07/2020 12:19

Well I think she was rude certainly and I would have kept quiet. But I would need to quarantine to return from Spain so that does make me think it is currently more dangerous than where I live.

Alex50 · 15/07/2020 12:41

I will just get a test when I get back to make sure I don’t have it, there’s a testing centre 5 mins from my house and it’s virtually empty most days

TheFuckingDogs · 15/07/2020 12:47

She’s a dick! Everyone has their own ideas of the things that are acceptable atm, I’m trying really hard not to judge others for their lines and expect the same in return.
I like you think a quick trip over to the costas is reasonable. To me it’s important. I’m not a shopper though and have to stop myself from criticising those who think a whole day clothes shopping atm is a worthwhile activity
It’s so hard but apart from mass gatherings all our little pleasures are creeping back into our lives in differing ways and we all need to be tolerant.

HisNibs · 15/07/2020 12:50

She's no friend Op. Just one of those people who thinks that because their life is joyless, yours has to be too.
Glad you enjoyed your holiday

Ilovecharliecat · 15/07/2020 12:57

Ignore her, personally I wouldn't want to fly anywhere at the moment, but just because I wouldn't I'm not going to judge others. It sounds that you have been sensible in your social distancing, hygiene etc and stayed in a villa. I'm glad that you had a good holiday, don't let the moaning Minnie spoil it !

Frozenfrogs86 · 15/07/2020 12:58

Ignore her.

Mary46 · 15/07/2020 13:12

Glad you enjoyed. Ours cancelled but alot of restrictions at hotel. I think villas fine as not huge amounts people at them. Hope you had a nice time

June628 · 15/07/2020 13:15

This person is your best friend?? How awful!

Witchofzog · 15/07/2020 13:19

She is a twat. Who on earth does she think she is? I would send her a text based on some of the replies on here and then distance yourself. She has no right to say this - especially after your op where you needed this break for your physical and mental health.

Goingdownto · 15/07/2020 13:48

@Alex50

I will just get a test when I get back to make sure I don’t have it, there’s a testing centre 5 mins from my house and it’s virtually empty most days
Would you not have to lie to get it, and say you had symptoms? I have never applied for one. I wouldn't be happy lying for a holiday. I'm not convinced that is a legal alternative, though it is an alternative!
JaniceWebster · 15/07/2020 13:52

why should you feel any more guilty that everyone who went to McDonald's/clothes shop/ hairdresser/ public beach... and basically left the house!

I think that holidays are a lot more essential than random shopping and beauty treatments, but even if you disagree, holidays are certainly no LESS essential than all of the above.

Your friend is just jealous! I would be worried about flying, but I don't begrudge your holiday.

SmilesAreFree2020 · 15/07/2020 14:01

Not a friend. Ditch her and find better ones.

I had a 'friend' share a 'wear a mask you morons, it's better than a ventilator' type post on my and others FB walls! I mentioned that it is not actually needed yet in shops - her response - so what still killing people. Then I mentioned that I don't visit shops I use delivery, her response well 2/3rds of the population are morons and too selfish to wear a mask. Again pointed out they don't need to yet in shops.
A later post on her facebook page she was showing a picture of masks she had just that day ordered ready for the requirement on 24th - it appears she hasn't every worn one yet.....

Anyway my long post is that some people are 'idiots' and love moaning and telling others what to do whilst not doing it themselves. I imagine she might love a holiday..... or she is one of those massively OTT virus people who see danger and murder everywhere.

Either way ignore her. Glad you had a lovely holiday.

MaxNormal · 15/07/2020 14:04

What a cow. No, don't feel guilty at all, and I'm glad you had a good time.

NellePorter · 15/07/2020 14:06

Would you not have to lie to get it, and say you had symptoms?
Yes, I think even if you have had contact with someone who has tested positive, you can't get tested yourself unless you have symptoms

IwishIhadaMargarita · 15/07/2020 14:08

If I was you I’d just do a 14 day isolation and tell her you are doing everything to mitigate risk. In Scotland we have to isolate if coming from Spain.

Can I ask how it works at the baggage carousel as these are normally utter carnage with people all piled on top of each other (and my case is always bloody last)

Topseyt · 15/07/2020 14:08

Stop referring to her as a friend. She isn't.

Tell her that you had a great time and you couldn't give a shit what she thinks, but that after her stupid comments you no longer consider her to be a friend at all. Then block her.

I'm glad you enjoyed the trip. Don't feel guilty. Life does have to start returning to some semblance of normality at some point soon and you behaved very responsibly.

DH and I are hoping to go to Spain in October, after our youngest DD has started uni. It will be great if we can.

CrazyToast · 15/07/2020 14:35

She's just scared, give her a break. You feel how you want to feel about your holiday. You knew there were risks- the consequences or lack of them will be evident in 2 weeks. Any guilt you should feel would relate to what you do now ie do you distance properly etc in case you picked it up.

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