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Handing in notice Aug school support worker

35 replies

Alleaim1 · 11/07/2020 17:22

I am a support worker in a school and have been working from home during pandemic. When I go back my job position has completely changed and with no discussion. I feel very upset and anxious because my SLT have given me everything they know I would be uncomfortable with and other staff have told me it's a private joke now laughed about at school amongst themselves. I have decided to hand my notice in. If I hand it in at the start of August, will I get Sept pay? Or should I hand it in at the end of July. My contract is a months notice. :(

OP posts:
Lonecatwithkitten · 11/07/2020 17:28

If you don't to wish to work in the Autumn term you will need to hand your notice in on or before the 1st August, you will be paid for August and your last day of work will be the 31st August.
Ordinarily you work your notice, but as you work in a school there is no work in August,

AuntieDolly · 11/07/2020 17:30

Are you able to resign during the holidays? Our notice is only counted during working weeks.

Saucery · 11/07/2020 17:31

The ‘other staff’ sound quite horrid.
Do you need and enjoy the job apart from all this? If you do, then would you consider applying for the jobs that are coming up now and leaving with a better place to go to?

GreenTulips · 11/07/2020 17:32

Hand it in 7th August

Interacts usually only run til 31st August so I doubt you’ll be paid unless you have a full time contract

Winter2020 · 11/07/2020 17:38

If somehow you have been given all the shit stuff to do and others haven't why not put in a grievance instead of resigning. Do you have evidence that your work role has become a standing joke (email/text/whatsapp) that would be quite powerful evidence.

bettsbattenburg · 11/07/2020 17:38

Unless you are on a teaching contract the Burgundy Book dates for resigning don't apply and it's like any other job, you just give a months notice so if you resigned today you'd leave on 11th August.

As for pay during the holidays, you'd get some because you are (in part) being paid for work that you have already done so they'd calculate it pro-rata so if you'd worked 8 months of the year then you'd be paid for the 8 months plus the holiday entitlement for 8 months less what you had already taken during the school holidays so far.

UltimateWednesday · 11/07/2020 17:40

If you give a month's notice on 1 August, you'll leave on 31st so, no, you won't get September pay, why would you? You will get paid in August. If you want to be paid for Sept you need to work Sept.

What you should do is talk to the head, your colleagues are not necessarily being truthful or knowledgeable about what's been said or why the changes have been made.

Callipygion · 11/07/2020 18:14

If your school is closing next week write your letter now and put you want to resign as of 31st August. As support staff you will be on equated pay I expect so are due a payment in August.

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Alleaim1 · 11/07/2020 19:38

Thanks all. Our school have had a change around of staff after a move around of SLT. Many have left and been replaced but I wanted to stick it out st first. Now I feel that because my role has changed, and I have argued that they cannot do that. I have been told that as long as it's still supporting I can go where I'm told and if I left, then ppl could be shuffled to do my job. Which I guess is true. Obviously I dont have a plan of where to go yet but I do know that I do not want to stay there but do not know when to hand my notice in so that I at least get a wage in the summer holidays. My sister said that I can hand my notice in a month before school starts in September. But I just need to know if this is best or to hand in next week instead if I would not get paid in Sept from Aug resignation.

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Callipygion · 11/07/2020 21:37

Pay is a month in arrears isn’t it, so you’d get August salary paid in September.

Why don’t you try and stick it out for now but get job searching for something else?

Callipygion · 11/07/2020 21:39

Oh maybe not, that’s overtime in arrears, sorry. No you won’t get any pay in September (we were paid on 23rd - so 3 weeks in arrears, 1 week in advance) sorry got mixed up before.

Amiepop · 11/07/2020 22:15

My pay is the 15th of every month. So I'll write my letter on Monday saying I am resigning as if 31st August. So I will get my August pay but not my September pay. Hopefully I will find something for September because if I stay then it will be harder to find something and take time for interviews etc. Thanks for your advice😊

Amiepop · 12/07/2020 08:54

I've just had a thought that I think I would have to resign as of 1st August and then the months notice brings me up to the 2nd September?

sonnybeaudelaire · 12/07/2020 09:32

Check your contract. In my county, support staff are paid for term time only (38 weeks) plus holiday pay (eg 5 weeks), so say for 43 weeks per year. The annual total is divided by 12 and paid equally throughout the year.

So, ignoring resignation, you are never paid for the whole of August, even though you receive 1/12 of your annual salary in terms of cash paid over.

In practice this means that if you resign to time it for the end of August you won’t be receiving a full month’s pay as Payroll will do a true-up adjustment in the final month.

You may have factored this in already!

AuntieDolly · 12/07/2020 09:32

How many weeks a year are you contracted to work? If it is 38 weeks you don't earn money during the holidays, you just get get 38 weeks money spread over 12 monthly payments. If you don't want to go back after the summer holidays you need to resign and leave at the end of term.

Mostpeculiar · 12/07/2020 09:37

Yes pretty sure no such thing as months notice with term time support jobs I remember leaving mine and not getting the money I’d hoped for

Evelefteden · 12/07/2020 09:45

What is so bad about the position you are been asked to do?

Leaving work now when two million people are expected to lose their jobs is crazy. Can you cope with losing the income?

bettsbattenburg · 12/07/2020 10:05

Hopefully I will find something for September because if I stay then it will be harder to find something and take time for interviews etc. Thanks for your advice

How are you going to find a new job in a school when they all break up this week or next? We did all our recruitment for teaching and support jobs for September back in June.

Bakeachocolatecaketoday · 12/07/2020 10:32

Lets say you get £500 per working week. Lets say terms are 12 weeks each so you work 36 weeks a year. £500*36 is £18,000 per year. This is then divided by 52 weeks. So your gross take home pay is £346 per week (I've ignored tax here)....

When you resign this will be recalculated, So you have worked from January 24 weeks, and your resignation is on 31st August. There are 35 weeks from 1st Jan to 2nd Sept. So 24*500 is £12000 spread over 35 weeks becomes £342 per week.

So in this example you will receive slightly less pay in August, as you have been "overpaid" by £140 in the preceding weeks, so you will get just over 3/4 of a months salary.

Does that make sense?

CatToddlerUprising · 12/07/2020 10:35

It depends on the pay schedule. A couple of schools I worked in paid on the 15th of every month, but you were paid for the two weeks prior and the two weeks after that date.

viques · 12/07/2020 10:37

@bettsbattenburg

Hopefully I will find something for September because if I stay then it will be harder to find something and take time for interviews etc. Thanks for your advice

How are you going to find a new job in a school when they all break up this week or next? We did all our recruitment for teaching and support jobs for September back in June.

I agree. Go back in September, see how things are, chances are there will be similar jobs in other schools as other people could have resigned over the summer. Apply, get a job, resign. Far better to have a job bringing in money than find yourself with a two or three month no income gap.
BuzzButterfly7 · 12/07/2020 11:01

You need to be flexible in work, if other staff and SLT have moved around then it's reasonable you should too - unless they have moved you from TA to cleaner for example, that would be unreasonable!

If you're unhappy though then just resign beginning of August, you'll be paid for August but not the new term.

Amiepop · 12/07/2020 21:51

Thanks all. Everyone roughly saying the same thing regarding pay, so seems right.
I will definitely be handing notice in next week as just the thought of going there stresses me as I know what they are like...I've been there 7 years and the last 2 have been bad. I must remain positive and I will get another job at another school as have seem many around. Thanks again for all your advice. I think sometimes in life we have to look after our heads first.

Amiepop · 12/07/2020 22:06

@Evelefteden

What is so bad about the position you are been asked to do?

Leaving work now when two million people are expected to lose their jobs is crazy. Can you cope with losing the income?

Assembly talks on Tue and Wed morning (petrified me as I'm not the most confident), toilet rota duties with another member of staff, added lunchtime rota, then no fixed classroom because looking after children who will play up or not want to be in class. No structure at all and it all just makes me anxious when everyone else has fixed jobs. I know I'm extremely lucky to be working at all but it fills me with dread.
MumW · 12/07/2020 22:12

Can you get your GP to sign you off with severe anxiety whilst you look for a new job?
Your collegues sound like nasty immature bullies.
Are you in a union?

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