Aibu. ahhh boss quibbling over 1 minute.

[Peterbear]

IWork for a council in E England. NEw boss has just emailed to say that she has checked my time sheets - on a couple of days last month i have written start time as 8am. ( work from home since covid) I did not however send in my 'log on' email till 8.01. I am being asked to go back and amend my time sheet.
Wtf?? Do I say don't be ridiculous that is a complete waste of taxpayer money or do I just play along? Worth saying that I often work a bit over and don't log this as feel it's petty to put for example 5.07 on a time sheet. Wwyd? Aibu to think jesus get a bloody life??

Stories like these make me thankful for my job. I couldn't live with being micro-managed and watched like this.

As long as I get the work done, no-one cares when I do it. When we were in the office (now all WFH) staff would come and go at all hours of the day. I had a colleague who rarely made it into the office before 11am, but would consistently work until 8-9pm. My line manager leaves on the dot of 4pm everyday so she can get a fast train home. I come in at 7.30am every morning because I'm an early-morning person but my productivity drops significantly after 3pm so I'm often not in the office after 4pm either.

We respect each other as individuals rather than treating one another like robots. Unsurprisingly, we have a very low staff turnover and are highly productive. It's such a ridiculous false economy to treat your employees as if they're untrustworthy skivers.

I remember when it used to be the done thing to be at work 10 mins before you needed to be, just because its how the ethic was back then. Also worth nothing that when we used to do that it was expected, but we were never paid for those 10 mins. We just had to be around and prepared to start on time. Companies always pick up when you are a minute or 2 late. But never thank you for staying a minute or 2 late when you don't need to ...

This is ridiculous and I wouldnt do what the others said, in fact I would definitely argue with it.

You were at home, you got up. Sorted your life out. Turned the computer on, loaded the website, logged in ... its not your fault of these things don't register instantly. But ots quote clear that if you logged on qt 8:01 .. you were well on time to be started at 8.

Also. A huge amount were working from home as a lot still are. Internet stability and other factors are out of your control. And as a Council, part of the government.. they should stop being so bloody ridiculo good luck with them!

To the 6% of people currently saying you are being unreasonable, they need to get a life and i bet none of them work for a local council.....keep a tab, log everything there are some useless and pathetic managers in this industry who have no ideal of tge real world, good.luck op, hope the manger (asshole) gets outed

Years ago a boss decided none of us were doing the hours we were paid for and we had to do time sheets. A couple of weeks later we all realised we were actually doing a lot more and so we stopped doing any extra. It backfired on him massively!

Does that include time to even turn on the computer? I’d be asking for money for your internet and electricity to charge the laptop too.

Write this....

How.long does it takes for me to go.from writing on a piece of.paper, to then put down the pen, and click my mouse pointer.

I.tell you what, in future i.wont.log out until I've actually finished. That way you can then pay me for all the.times, I've not taken a break, or finished late.

I'm.sure your manager would.love to ask you why.your.payi g.for extra overtime.

There's a thing in life called, fuck off you twat! Google it! You'll find.it next to, pedantic twat!

We have to send log on/log off emails and on our log on email we have to say how we are feeling that day and what tasks we plan to work on/complete - I say plan to because our workload can change in an instant. At log off we say what we did actually complete.
Therefore we can have actually logged on 5 minutes before we press send on the email.
When working in the office we sign in at the time we arrive, switche on computer, go and get a drink whilst it’s booting up, have a chat with a colleague, so can easily sit down to actually work 10 minutes after signing in. Our time sheets are to the nearest 5 minutes not 1 minute.

Log on at 7.55 and make a cup of tea - sit down at 8.00am and start work.
You should log your overtime - accuracy works at both ends of the day 😀

@TenShortStories

I'd just say "Oops, thanks for the heads up - will change it now" and then do a massive eye roll to myself and be glad that they've let me know they're one to watch for pettiness in the future.

Defo agree with above. No drama BUT you're now aware of their pettiness......

Log on every day at 7.50 then go and enjoy a cup of coffee toll 8.15. Ridiculous but had a boss like that myself, play the game, not with the hassle.

@Peterbear
If you look at your email 'sent' box, chances are you'll find proof your email login was sent at 8am anyway.

I would check my time for every day that week and then update my timesheet with all the finish times past 5. Then say oh sorry I forgot to add the overtime!

Make sure you log on at the right time and then go to the loo and make a cup of tea. Many many years ago I worked in a shop where we had to clock on in the morning and after lunch and tea breaks. If you totalled ten minutes ‘late’ you lost pay. It was as draconian then as is your boss now

Frankly I couldn't work for someone like this, it wouldn't last a week. Makes me wonder how your manager got the job really.
Anyway, I would be pedantic back and log off one minute late at the end of the day, and I certainly wouldn't offer overtime, as I would imagine this type of manager not appreciating it anyway.

Oh good grief. Like others, I’d say “thanks for letting me know. I’ll up date the sheet with the times I’ve worked through lunch and after hours too”.
Your ‘manager’ simply does not know how to manage people.

This is why I work for myself. Your new boss is a control freak jobsworth. How utterly ridiculous.

I'd log how often he (assuming its a man) picks on you and wastes your time over ridiculous 'issues' like this and if it continues, take it to someone higher/HR. I've had bosses like this before, and it rarely improves.

This is what makes people so resentful in the work place, it treats professional adults like children and then they wonder why people are bitter and productivity is reduced. Stupid

Can you use a task scheduling program to logon at 7 but have a long lie in😂

Keep the email and start logging your overtime.

I had this problem when I worked for a well known tour operator. You could be 10 seconds late logging in (usually because of their shit computer system) and you would be pulled for it although if you worked anything up to 15 minutes overtime they wouldn't pay you. Overtime was paid from 15 mins onwards and in 15 minute blocks. You were also expected to be sat at your desk logged on and ready to go 10 minutes before your shift again with no pay. Shit show of a company. As another thread mentions, you were obviously logging on at 8. Sounds that a pathetic persons power trip

In windows you can view login time:

To access the Windows Event Viewer, press “Win + R,” and type eventvwr. msc in the “Run” dialog box. When you press Enter, the Event Viewer will open. Here, double-click on the “Windows Logs” button and then click on “Security.” In the middle panel you will see multiple logon entries with date and time stamps.

Surely, the time you fired up the pc is the start time, not the time of your first email.

Where I used to work the manager's office faced the stairs so she saw us arrive and leave. We worked shifts of 8 - 4, 9 - 5 or 10 - 6 on a rota basis. One evening a colleague was leaving at 4.55. Manager shouts out "X, leaving 5 minutes early?" "No, I'm leaving 55 minutes late"replied colleague gleefully...

Oh no I hate micro managers. I would say ok, should I book all my overtime then ?

It's a petty one but you have to play the game. If the system is set up to log these minute by minute regardless of work, then make sure you log each and every minute of overtime too.... and then forget about it until you need it to cover your back.

How does this login email work exactly? Do you have to send an email to your boss saying “I have logged in”? I don’t get this- the system will record when you actually logged in, and your colleagues will simply work on the basis that you are available from your contractual start time unless you’ve notified leave or other unusual absence.

This is literally just an email sent to someone, not clicking a box on a system or something?