To think that July/August feel more like early Autumn now?

[EwanTheMelatoninSheep]

I'm not a summer hater, so I say this with no joy, and it might just be where I am (up north, coastal) but does anyone else feel like this?

The last few years it seems to have gone from Spring (warm and fresh) straight to early Autumn (mild temps around 15,cloudy, cool breezes and rain,all the flowers going over very quickly thanks to rain and wind, evenings feeling darker due to clouds)

In May we had the paddling pool out, it was roasting, and had that "on the brink of summer" feeling, then the rain came in and that was it

I've always lived up north and the weather has always been changeable, but I can't remember the last time I had a long, hot, dusty August dog day.

DH says it's like we have monsoon seasons now instead - lots of dry hot weather in spring, then the muggy deluge

The last few years the weather in May and June has been gorgeous, although I did have my winter coat on for a day or two in early June this year (I'm in the south east)

I thought July had been okay the last few years. Last year we had 38 degrees in the south at the end of July - that's too hot (the tarmac was melting on our road). And although the weather is rubbish at the moment, the forecast for the second half of July seems okay - according to the monthly outlook on the BBC website.

By August it does seem to start getting autumnal but by then it is late summer so it's to be expected. We usually go away the last two weeks of the summer holidays so we miss what late August is like but the first half of September always seems lovely - like summer is trying to have one last hurrah!

I'm in Swaledale and last August bank holiday was a scorcher! But it's true that generally speaking, it's not the greatest month weather wise.

I am a July baby and it is always crap for my birthday. We used to organise BBQs but weather is always rubbish. I often find we have really warm springs and sometimes Indian summers but June and July are often miserable

Irish calendar definitely makes much more sense where I am in England too.

Here, we follow, and teach in schools:

Winter - Dec, Jan, Feb
Spring - march, April, may
Summer - June, July, aug
Autumn - sept, Oct, Nov

That is the same as the Meteorological season in the UK.

I agree and I also find it strange that the hottest part of the hot days we've had recently (and in recent years) was around 4pm and not noon as it used to be.

The different calendars are based on temperature and daylight. The Irish one is daylight. So winter is november, december and january. They're the darkest months. May, june and july are the brightest.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_creep

It's hammering down where I am and I have just put the heating on, NW England

If I hear one more person say "oh have a staycation this year" I won't be responsible for my actions.

When I think about it, there has been a burst of autumnal weather in July/August the last few years. It makes me start thinking about Christmas and it's when I write my to buy for list!

I do think we often get a patch of good weather in September too though. In my house we always comment that the best weather seems to be either side of the 'summer months' these days.

Sounds amazing. Here in South Australia we just get a longer summer every year

It seems to be a bit hit and miss. Hot weather in May/June, then the mild grey weather we're having now, then maybe it'll perk up again and we'll have another bout of heat (though for some reason in July/August it always seems to be that gross hot, muggy, thundery weather), then back to mild, then another bit of warmth to see us into Autumn properly. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to it, though I do remember being pissed off when I was younger that school exams in May/June would pretty much always fall on the nicest days of the year.

I'm remembering a humid heatwave at the end of July last year (it was my son's uni graduation). Something like 37/38 degrees...I hated it!!
And summer 2 years ago was a corker from May till September.

I didn't imagine that, right?

Summer does certainly seem to have been and gone this year. Typical, beautiful throughout lockdown when everything was shut, then everything opens back up and the weather turns to shit.

I can’t remember a nice August. If we’re going to have a summer summer it’s usually nice between late June and the end of July. We’re lucky if the first week of August is decent before it all turns to shit.

My Birthday is at the end of March. Most years it’s nice, and sometimes it’s glorious, but it can also be bloody freezing. A few years ago I think it was freezing daytime temperatures into April.

Best of Scottish summer definitely April-June. July always a huge disappointment and kids back at school by second week in August.

I'm in my office with the heating on and I'm wearing a big jumper - it's July!

I agree that we've had our summer weather in April/May the last few years. We were in London for a few days around Easter last year and it was almost 30 degrees - we spent the whole time in beer gardens

We usually get a spell of nice weather in September but July/August are usually chucking it down rain, cloudy and humid.

I like it now that the nights are drawing in, although I know I'm stroking against the grain of the cat on here.

I like it that it's cold too as I can't stand the heat. After all, it is easier to warm up if you're too cold, than it is to cool down if it's too hot.

@TrickorTreacle noooooo!!! The nights aren't drawing in!!! That's what we say in October! We're not long past summer solstice, it's not over yet!

From observation, the seasons in Scotland are thus:

Spring - April, May, first half of June.
Summer - Second two weeks of June (some years only).
Pre-Autumn - July
Autumn - August, September
Winter - October - March.

@GalesThisMorning - I'm with you. It's still bright where I live until at after 10pm. Although from september on, rather than october, it's fair to say the nights are drawing in now and we won't feel it until christmas.

@TrickorTreacle

I like it now that the nights are drawing in, although I know I'm stroking against the grain of the cat on here.

I like it that it's cold too as I can't stand the heat. After all, it is easier to warm up if you're too cold, than it is to cool down if it's too hot.

I love that expression about the cat. Going to use that from now on! And I also hate the heat!

Yes it's weird. It used to be hot in August, into September and October even. Now it's autumn bang on September and hot summer in may. Very confusing.

I lost a load of tomato plants to frost in May this year, so it's not always hot and sunny.

I thought this last year and think it again this year! It does feel like autumn. Mind you, I spent a holiday in the North East last August and it was BOILING hot. Like properly hot. Not the whole time I was there, but for a lot of it. But it was one, hot week in an otherwise grey august iirc.

This si very interesting. I'm across the pond on the east coast of Canada, and I and others have noticed a real seasonal shift here. Spring is later - it used to get going at the beginning of May but now it's closer to June 1st, and then summer seems to last longer, right through September and the first half of October. And no real snows until after Christmas.

So almost the opposite shift the OP is describing.

I think there is no question there has been a change in global weather patterns.

@TrickorTreacle

I like it now that the nights are drawing in, although I know I'm stroking against the grain of the cat on here.

I like it that it's cold too as I can't stand the heat. After all, it is easier to warm up if you're too cold, than it is to cool down if it's too hot.

Easier for you maybe, Trick. If I get cold I’m miserable and it takes ages and ages to warm up. Extra clothes or fleece blankets don’t work easily. Have you ever considered that you like cool weather because it suits you better rather than being objectively better? Ever considered that people who like it hot aren’t just weirdos who enjoy being uncomfortable but are actually more comfortable in the heat?