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AIBU?

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To think SIL should help

76 replies

Campurp · 02/07/2020 21:09

We have a 12m old and MIL cares for him 3days PW, with DH and taking the remainder (both public servants and working through lockdown). My SIL (older than my DH)still lives at home and has announced a surprise pregnancy.

MIL won’t take any payment from us, but we always pick up her favourite things in our weekly shop, provide everything from nappies to food and snacks for DS when he’s there and are generous with gifts.

SIL maintains that she won’t be moving in with her partner because she’s fine with the current arrangements and now keeps asking when DS is going to nursery. She says that when she saw the help that MIL was giving us that she decided that she should hurry up and have a baby so she can “get it out of the way and get free childcare too”

Our plan (agreed with MIL before we started trying for a baby) was that she would care for him 3 days, I’d go down to 4 days at work and our child would go to 1/2 day nursery when he turns 3, and reception afterwards.

MIL now feels that she will have to be fair and that she will look after SIL’s child the same amount of days as DS when SIL goes back to work.

SIL has always been a tad spoilt, never paid her way even when my DH lived at home and regularly throws £‘s down the drain on frivolous designer goods etc. MIL has had to bail her out of debt a number of times, yet she still finds a way to buy expensive cars and holidays (not jealous, just trying to set the picture here)
DH and I save and plan our finances, paid for our wedding alone, moved out and have genuine bills to pay. (Trying to give as much background so as not to drip feed!)

As time goes on we’re understanding that MIL will find it hard to care for a baby and toddler alone and as much as she says she wants to, we really don’t think it’s fair on her as it’ll tire her out (in her 60’s but still fit & healthy)

We are now thinking about what to do going forward as we would hate for MIL’s retirement to be ruined by her getting ill caring for 2 kids. As SIL’s child will be living with her she will already be on duty more than she is now with our 3 days. SIL regularly makes comments about her coming home from hospital and handing the baby to MIL, or how she doesn’t have to learn how to change nappies because “that’s what mum’s for”.

AIBU to think SIL should pay for some help or nursery for her child since she still gets free board and doesn’t pay bills?

Or do you think I should suck it up, and accept that SIL will get her way yet again and we’ll have to pay to put DS in childcare elsewhere?

Extra points for any suggestions to find a happy medium!

Also- don’t rip me to shreds guys... AIBU is terrifying!!

OP posts:
copperoliver · 02/07/2020 23:13

By the time your sil has her baby and has a year's maternity leave will your baby not be 2 and a half then so nearly ready for nursery anyway. Maybe put him in nursery 2 days and ask mother in law to have him one day. That way he will get used to nursery and you will only have to pay for 6 months before he get a free place at 3 anyway. X

saraclara · 02/07/2020 23:18

@YoungsterIwish

Hopefully she would *@saraclara* . Unfortunately I know quite a few grannies who care for their gc and find it exhausting and can't wait to see the back of their gc at the end of the day, which I find really sad. But they won't let on to their dc as they don't want to let them down/put them under pressure with huge nursery fees. (Not saying it's the case here).
I do know what you mean, and maybe I was a bit harsh. But the OP hasn't really acknowledged MIL's feelings or wishes about the decision at all so far. She sounds as though she's patronising MIL and making a decision without having a proper conversation about it.
YoungsterIwish · 02/07/2020 23:24

Definitely time for a conversation with MIL and one that will need to be revisited regularly. She may be fine now with daycare x 3 days only for 1 gc but find living with a baby/toddler 24/7 too means no off time.

therealkittyfane · 02/07/2020 23:38

Good to hear that you are going to get (and pay for) alternative care.

Your MIL’s home situation and commitments have changed. Therefore your arrangement will have to change.

As much as you have tried to carefully structure your posts to make you sound reasonable, it is obvious that you resent your SIL for messing up your current arrangement.
I think you have to suck it up. Otherwise, your MIL will suffer and that is not fair.

StudyBuddy · 02/07/2020 23:45

This doesn't actually affect you at all. You got free childcare, SIL is getting free childcare. You're not losing anything. It has nothing at all to do with you.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 02/07/2020 23:49

YABVU

It's none of your business what your MIL decides to do. Just be glad you're saving a packet on childcare and keep your beak out.

And whilst your MIL is right - she can't do childcare for you and not SIL - I actually feel really sorry for her. I think a lot of middle aged women agree to help with childcare and find themselves utterly exhausted. What happens when you have a second child - have you factored that in? And Why don't you do the decent thing, as you clearly have the means to afford it, put your hand in your pocket and send DS to nursery, give your MIL a break?

GlummyMcGlummerson · 02/07/2020 23:51

I also think when people rely on families for childcare it's very prudent to come up with a back-up plan. Grandparents get ill, have accidents, long term illnesses. Plan for what you'll do if this happens

timeisnotaline · 02/07/2020 23:58

There is nothing you can do about sil. Talk to mil, see how she feels. Explain theres a lead time to find childcare so you really feel you should be looking soon to give her a break. Say that sils baby will be here 24 hours a day so you will probably help nights too and we are just concerned you won’t get a break and our child is too much.
Be very prepared sil will expect your child in childcare by the time hers is born so hers gets the solo grandma care and attention yours had, If your mil wants to look after your child don’t feel bad about that, she lives there So there will be plenty of it and second grandchildren don’t get exactly the same deal as first. (My kids are grandchildren 6 & 9 and there is lots of grandparent sharing)

VioletGrace · 03/07/2020 00:16

Your MIL might want to carry on looking after your DS. Have you asked her what she wants?

I wouldn't discuss anything with your SIL about your DS going to nursery. It's none of her business and she doesn't get to dictate whether or not your MIL looks after your child.

squeekums · 03/07/2020 00:17

We never got daily help from MIL
SIL got free daily childcare for years from her, literally till the kid went to school from about a year old
Shit happens
You sound jealous, even kind of annoyed you will now have to stump up and pay for care of some kind. We ALL have bills

Candyfloss99 · 03/07/2020 00:23

You chose to buy a house. You chose to have a child. And now you are put out because your SIL hasn't chosen to pay for a house? Wow.

pigsDOfly · 03/07/2020 00:29

What's with all these people who choose to have children and then expect free child care from their mothers or mothers in law?

WorraLiberty · 03/07/2020 00:49

I'd love to hear your SIL's side of things here OP.

Because you've been very critical of her. It sounds as though you see her as a threat to your comfy free childcare arrangement.

I wonder if she could also produce a list of things she feels takes the piss about your and her brother, relating to childcare?

I think you need to back off and understand your very kind MIL will of course be keeping things fair and caring for her other grandchild too when it arrives.

If that's a problem for your and your husband, you need to start putting your hands in your pockets.

WorraLiberty · 03/07/2020 00:50

*you

Sunnydayshereatlast · 03/07/2020 09:16

My ils totally dumped my dc when sil had her pfb.
Beware of similar op..
They never ever took my dc anywhere. Sil dc went everywhere from overnights and whole week ends to pantos and parties.. Even holidays.
Mine never had a day out. And I don't mean childcare. Never needed that. But being gps never happened..
Sil made sure they had no spare time and they went along with it...

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 03/07/2020 09:32

I'd love to hear your SIL's side of things here OP I’m going to guess she thinks OP is a bit smug considering it’s her mother facilitating her and her brothers lifestyles.

Giganticshark · 03/07/2020 09:32

Yabu.

Dieu · 03/07/2020 09:35

Jesus Christ, why do some grandmothers sign up for this shit? The odd bit of babysitting I'd be totally up for - when the time comes! - but daily childminding duties? No thanks.
What is lacking in their own personal life that they feel they have to relive motherhood?

AfterSchoolWorry · 03/07/2020 09:37

It’s just frustrating that we have to pay a mortgage etc, PLUS nursery fees

🙄

Everybody does, what did you expect when you had a child?

You're an adult, that means paying for everything. Hey used to it.

AllsortsofAwkward · 03/07/2020 09:38

You're nose is out of joint of course she should get the same. I imagine as mother and daughter their relationship is closer than yours and mils. Wheres you're dm? Surely you should be happy for her not begruding her taking youre free childcare from you.

recycledbottle · 03/07/2020 09:41

Feel sorry for MIL. She must have low self esteem. You all come across as a bunch of users arguing over who gets to use her the most.

therealkittyfane · 03/07/2020 09:57

It’s just frustrating that we have to pay a mortgage etc, PLUS nursery fees

Childcare isn’t free OP. FGS.

pigsDOfly · 03/07/2020 10:06

Absolutely agree with what Dieu and recycledbottle posted.

I have DGC. I love them dearly and I'm there like a shot when my DD needs me and I'm also happy to babysit from time to time.

But my DD and her DH wanted to have children, I wasn't involved with that decision, obviously, so feel no obligation to me a second mother to them.

I've done my child rearing and have no desire to spend what time I have left looking after small children every day.

LouHotel · 03/07/2020 10:15

I think your SIL didn't like that her position in the family changed once your son was born because its bizarre to have a baby on the basis you expect your mother to be a 24/7 live in nanny. I wonder what her partner thinks of this.

I would actually be planning to have your DS in childcare when he is 2 as if your SIL is expecting your mum to do the night feeds etc then it's not really fair to drop a toddler on her for 3 days.

I think YANBU to feel put out because this is a bit more than a grandmother offering childcare to both siblings.

timeisnotaline · 03/07/2020 10:37

Jesus Christ, why do some grandmothers sign up for this shit? some do because they love it and it makes them happy, it’s not rocket science Hmm. My mil is a bit like this. The ops mil also probably has some boundary issues and a large part of her identity tied up in parenting given her failure to encourage sil to develop some adult financial and other independence.