Too feel kind of low about being paid so little?

[Fressia123]

I'll start by saying I like my job. The company is great, cool colleagues etc... They me MW for a job that yes it's simple but I could do much more. In fact before I left on ML the idea that I was going to get back to more responsibilities but COVID changed the business (for better) and now they need me for something else (which is fine). I think this would hurt slightly less if I didn't have to reject a job offer for £70k+ but it required relocating and we couldn't do it.

Anywho I'm taking this with philosophy as it's just a means to an end. My current job will help me fund my retraning in clinical psychology.

As much as it's sucky I know I'm fortunate to still have a job given the pandemic.

I read your other thread. You need to accept your earlier decision to turn down that better paid job. Concentrate on the one you're in.

Ask your employer for the increase you are due. In your other thread you said you were working 40 hours a week. Is that still the case?

Good luck OP, it's a,tough one giving up the opportunity of this role because of a 50/50 arrangement (your kids or your OH?) especially if you thought it was it for a few hours/days. You did the right thing though.

Clinical.psychology, if your intention is to become a clinical psychologist is very tough. Much competition from you g people with some experience as assistant psychologist already. You have to keep going after your masters and getting into that course is tough. You then end up as a Band 7 or 8A, possibly 8B if you pick up corporate responsibities but that would be after quite a few years experience and even that at the top of the and doesn't pay £70k.

As pps have said there’s a whole lot between a minimum wage job and one that pays 70k. I can understand why you made the choice not to move far away from other dc but you need to realise it was a choice.

Your posts seem to imply that you’re limiting yourself to your current location but surely you could look a bit further afield while still being able to sort contact? There are plenty who don’t have the option or skills for anything other than nmw jobs, you do!

Yes, I'm not doing the DClin for the money, it's a substantial increase from my current salary and that's good enough for me.

I know it's hard to get in, but I'm confident I can do it.

Yea, it's a choice, my choice. I'm fully aware of it and I'm happy with my choices. I know it sounds I'm complaining but I'm just feeling a bit down about it as I assumed I was going to get a more decent increase. (Assumptions so my own fault for making a big deal out of nothing concrete). We're happy to move a bit further afield (which opens it up in terms of universities). We shall see what life brings.

Was the country where you were offered the 70k job in a country where your first language is spoken?

No, no languages involved in the 70k job. It was still in the UK just 5+ hours away.

@Fressia123

I'll start by saying I like my job. The company is great, cool colleagues etc... They me MW for a job that yes it's simple but I could do much more. In fact before I left on ML the idea that I was going to get back to more responsibilities but COVID changed the business (for better) and now they need me for something else (which is fine). I think this would hurt slightly less if I didn't have to reject a job offer for £70k+ but it required relocating and we couldn't do it.

Anywho I'm taking this with philosophy as it's just a means to an end. My current job will help me fund my retraning in clinical psychology.

As much as it's sucky I know I'm fortunate to still have a job given the pandemic.

I'm not entirely sure what your AIBU is OP. And there's more wrong with this post than just than syntax errors.

*You have a job in a great company, with good colleagues.
*They pay you NMW for a simple job
*You feel you could contribute more to the company, and had been offered an increased job scope before The Covid, but this opportunity no longer exists - you were expecting a pay rise along with this change in job description
*You've been asked to do something else instead, but at NMW - you're happy with this

Separately from all of that, you've been offered a £70k job, but you didn't take it because you don't want to relocate (but you kind of wish you'd been able to take it)

And btw, you speak 4 languages. An admirable skill, but unfortunately one which is irrelevant to your current, or your offered but declined job.

Is that about it? What do you want us to say?

Well you got the language skills wrong. My role is for now 100% language based.

And the AiBU is for understanding how lucky I am but still a tad annoyed that my skillset is worth much more than MW.

Can you prove that to them? Can you find job adverts for something similar with a higher salary? It doesn't have to be exactly the same, but something with the same level of responsibility.

Are your language skills a bonus, rather than a "must have"? I've worked in global organisations where everyone has corresponded in English, and my language skills weren't called on much.

It's not difficult to find people with the language skills required for a specific job, but if you're confident that no-one could easily replace you, it would be worth having a sit down conversation with your manager and/or HR to establish how they see your future in the company.

Finally, if you think you're being exploited, there must be a job close enough to you that would pay something more than NMW, though less than £70k that you'd be able to apply for.

When I was supposed to move to Business Development Management yes I could have found other roles with higher pay. This new hybrid role is a lot closer to customer service type thing, which could be slightly higher (particularly in London). I will be creating content in Spanish and Portuguese (as well as liaising with our users in those languages).

In this neck of the woods I'm sure I'm the only content moderation person with my language skills. I found other roles in different companies for more money but given my new career path I don't see the point in rocking that boat. That's the silver lining of this, I have a secure job that won't go away. A bird in the hand and all of that jazz.

It's also slightly more frustrating because the company is doing better now than before I left, our volumes have exploded (so much that he espects to hire 30+ people in the following months). Overall I'm happy just a bit disappointed that my "new" role is a lot menial than expected.

This new hybrid role is a lot closer to customer service type thing
Alas, these kind of jobs are not that well paid, even with language skills.

This new hybrid role is a lot closer to customer service type thing, which could be slightly higher (particularly in London)
But you're not in London.

t's also slightly more frustrating because the company is doing better now than before I left, our volumes have exploded
Which company is this? I thought you'd stayed at the original company.

Exactly! CS roles are not very well paid in general (I think that's my biggest disappointment TBH). I can't say which company as it would be too outing, but we deal with the distribution of user generated content.

And yes, I'm still talking about my old company, COVID was a positive thing for the business but it's easy to understand why.

the company is doing better now than before I left

In most cases, the pay for a role doesn't usually go up just because the company is performing better.

If there are better paid opportunities in your area, apply for them. If you get an offer, you can present that to your current employer and ask them to match it. If they won't do so, you can leave for the better paid job.

And as YaYaDingDong says, London salaries are utterly irrelevant if you are working anywhere that isn't London. If I asked my employer for a raise on the basis that the same role would be paid more in London they'd laugh at me (and rightly so!).

Customer services is not a well paid industry because the qualifications required to do it aren't high. Employers don't need to pay big bucks to get customer service roles filled by sufficiently competent people.

If you are moderating content in another language, that is higher skill than doing it in English, and they might find it harder to replace you, but probably not impossible. I wouldn't be so sure that there is no-one in your area who speaks Spanish and has sufficient CS skills to do the job.

I would definitely see what is out there in your area. If you were offered a £70k job, then you will certainly have the ability to earn above MW, even if you live in an area with fewer jobs.

Oddly enough I do think language skills over here are hard to find. I often get calls from recruiters because they can't find anyone else with the languay skills. It's usually commercial type roles something I have no experience of.

*language

We have so many EU nationals working in the UK these days people with language skills aren't nearly as difficult to find as they used to be.

Yea, I won't disagree about the languages /EU nationals. When I worked in London most of my colleagues where EU nationals. Over here it's a tad different but there are not that many jobs anyways.

But I'm not just experienced with languages. I'm a product/project manager with DevOps experience. I can do basic coding and was a data driven manager of very large teams for 5+ years.

When I got this very well paid job I finally understood that above anything else I was a manager (or that managerial duties were my forte rather than all the other techie stuff) so my job hunting focus should be those type of obs ideally in a digital environment as that's my field.

There aren't that many around here but that's irrelevant now as my mind is set on retraining.

But I'm not just experienced with languages. I'm a product/project manager with DevOps experience. I can do basic coding and was a data driven manager of very large teams for 5+ years

Jeez OP! Why on Earth are you doing a NMW job???

You might be able to find a job using your many skills but wfh. It's all the rage these days dontcha know?

Surely this is the definition of 'rich people problems' boo boo OP works MW but had to turn down a 70k job? Really? I am guessing her husband is very well paid for her to do that.

Many people on MW do not have the skills, education and experience you have. You can easily get out of your MW job. How self entitled can you be.

my partner is on £21k so he's not very well paid in the slightest.

I haven't checked the job market post COVID. The recruitment of said £70k job took a few months. However, when I was looking very few jobs were truly remote (they all asked to be within commuting distance for ad hoc meetings).

gift to be able to get out of these alternative roles have to be available. In the west country said type of jobs are far in between. There's better paying jobs, but it's usually accounts/commercial something I have no experience with.

I'm deleting this conversation now.
I really don't see what the point of the original post was.