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thinking that the cold shoulder is wrong?

63 replies

needhandhold · 28/06/2020 22:27

We had an argument a week ago and my H withdrew completely. No hugs, affection, communication. We deal with the kids together during the day politely and he’s being super funny nice with the kids but he leaves a room if I walk in and goes to bed as soon as the kids go to bed. He’s acting like a single man. This is the 3rd time in less than a year that he’s done this. It only ends if I apologise unreservedly, accept full blame and beg him to reinstate affection. Yes I did shout at him this time out of frustration and say some regrettable things, which I’ve apologised for but he did too and he apologised for his part. Both parties apologising and agreeing to move on should be enough? However, he wants more. He has turned it into a rant about all my past perceived misdeeds/arguments going back 2 years (all of which were resolved at the time). He has also listed numerous reasons in an email why he doesn’t want to be with me including that I object to him withdrawing like this as one of the reasons. He is adamant that our relationship issues are not 50/50 and that it is 100% my fault. I’ve explained my point of view that arguments do happen but most long term marrieds find a way to come together and discuss and resolve. Withdrawing is fine but with an end point in mind so that communication can resolve it. His withdrawal is endless until I capitulate to everything he wants. I find it highly distressing as a sensitive person. It’s lonely, humiliating and exhausting. Has anyone been through this. He says he is protecting himself. I get that and I don’t disagree with a cooling off period but this is more than that! For what it’s worth if he starts an argument and then apologises I tell him let’s forget it and move on and have a hug. I’ve never pulled this extended withdrawal on him. I feel it sets a really bad example to the kids.

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Tillygetsit · 29/06/2020 00:34

My exhwas exactly the same. It could ho on for weeks. It totally destroyed my self confidence and it yook a friend to point out that it was a form of psychological abuse. I'm not into saying LTB but maybe think about it?
Sending you all good wishes Flowers

nannyplumsmagranny · 29/06/2020 00:47

Tell him to fuck off and show him the door.

Howlongcanthisgoon · 29/06/2020 04:08

My H is the same. He needs me to cry and accept full blame, agree with all of his criticism of me and agree to try harder.
It doesn’t get better. Ever.
You need to decide if you can put up with this forever or if you deserve better.

Eveta · 29/06/2020 04:28

My ex used to do this too. I was with him for years. It was horrible. It knocked my self confidence and totally skewed my view of myself and the world. I used to blame myself and think I was a horrible person and that's why he behaved like that. It took nearly 5 years and counseling to get over it and adjust how I perceived myself. The kicker really came when we had kids and he started pitching the oldest one against me. I look back on it now and feel so sad at myself that I wasted so much time with him. It was so damaging. I'm with a lovely man now and I'm so happy. He'd never behave in this way.
Just get out op. Be strong. He won't ever change, he really won't.

SionnachGlic · 29/06/2020 04:54

Do you ever tell people he behaves like this? Or do you pretend if friends call in? I would stop pretending for starters & stop covering up for this controlling treatment. I'm sure he knows it is not right but it is part of his gaslighting to continue to tell you that you are the cause of it do you deserve it. I would say it even maybe in front of him...' no point in my asking DH, he hasn't spoken to since we had a row about X last week/fortnight etc'.. Silence favours the bully. And start making your plans...you need an exit strategy in case things don't improve/get worse.

NewAndImprovedNorks · 29/06/2020 05:27

@needhandhold please ask to have this moved to ‘relationships’ where you will get lots of support and advice.

This is not good

LellyMcKelly · 29/06/2020 06:00

I dated a man like this for two years. I used to wonder what I’d done wrong. Once I read up on it I realised it was nothing to do with me. He enjoyed engaging in this abusive behaviour. It’s a form of control and allows him to establish authority over you, shut down debate, and make you feel like you’re walking on eggshells - you’ll be careful what you say as you don’t want to set him off again. It’s one of the behaviours associated with narcissism. I’m not saying your husband is one, but the silent treatment is certainly a facet of the disorder. This is not a good or nice way to live your life.

LellyMcKelly · 29/06/2020 06:05

To add - I’d reply to the email, ‘you know what? I can’t do this any more. I’ve had enough of this shit. I want out. I want you to leave. I want a divorce’.

exLtEveDallas · 29/06/2020 06:12

This is abuse.
If you won’t leave for your sake, imagine a few years down the line when one of your kids upsets him - he’ll abuse them too.

Mimishimi · 29/06/2020 06:15

It doesn't get better OP. I have had 20 years of this type of behaviour and am at breaking point.

Angelonia · 29/06/2020 06:24

This is not a adult relationship OP. You are married to a small child who thinks that winning the argument and being right are more important than adult behaviour such as communication, compromise and empathy.

My mum always said that the most important thing is to marry someone who is kind. Your H is not a kind person, and this is not a partnership.

AlwaysCheddar · 29/06/2020 06:56

He’s a dick. Kick him out.

Shoxfordian · 29/06/2020 07:00

Its abusive
He's teaching you not to disagree with him again, by showing you the consequences of arguing about anything. There's no way for you to change this other than to leave him

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 29/06/2020 07:11

How easy is it to separate?

lunar1 · 29/06/2020 07:22

It's abusive behaviour, he's trying to train you to be submissive to him. This is very different than needing time to cool off.

GnomeDePlume · 29/06/2020 07:25

Your DCs will be aware of what is going on.

My parents were like this. I got good at telling if there was an 'atmosphere'. I avoided my parents as much as possible, spent as much time out of the house as possible and avoided bringing friends home.

My relationship with my mother now is one of obligation not love or respect.

slipperywhensparticus · 29/06/2020 07:35

I would be openly looking at finances and splitting up

He has told you he wants to split take him up on his generous offer

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 29/06/2020 09:20

Hi OP

I think you really need to get your kids out of this situation. They are learning that withdrawal is a way to punish others. That's what he is doing - punishing you and using his behavior to control you until he gets the outcome he wants. I don't think he will change as he is completely adamant that its 100% your fault, counselling would only work if both parties recognised there was a communication issue and wanted to work to resolve it and that means accepting there are things you can change. Your children will grow up and end up with someone that stone walls them or stonewall others to get what they want. I do think you might benefit from counselling yourself though, it might give you the tools and the confidence to see how wrong his behaviour is

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 29/06/2020 09:21

Why does he say he wants to stay with you if your behaviour apparently makes him act so terribly and you're always in the wrong? Why does he even want you to bother apologising if he wants to leave anyway? None of it actually makes any sense does it? I'd probably apologise to lull him into a false sense of security while starting to make plans to leave

Porcupineinwaiting · 29/06/2020 09:28

He's abusive. You should make plans to end the relationship- on your terms.

Can you imagine life going forward if you dont split? You'll be constantly tiptoing around on eggshells trying not to set him off and he will take great pleasure controlling you with his mood. Sad

ThanosSavedMe · 29/06/2020 09:39

If you’re that terrible he should be happy that you end the relationship.

This is not healthy, it’s not a good example to your children and if you give in again this time you know it will just get worse and worse

Angelonia · 29/06/2020 13:26

How are you feeling today, OP? Have you had a chance to think about things? I hope the replies didn’t come as a massive shock.

needhandhold · 29/06/2020 19:46

It’s not a shock to read the replies, I guess I was hoping for some sort of solution. He’s a nice guy until we argue. Splitting up is very hard to think about but I just feel so ground down by it.

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1Morewineplease · 29/06/2020 19:50

Haven’t you posted before quite recently on the very same issue? I seem to recognise some of your phrases.

Veterinari · 29/06/2020 20:13

He is adamant that he’s within his rights to withdraw and that its my terrible treatment of him that makes him do it

Does he have a medical condition that means he's incapable of managing his own behaviour or emotions? Most vertebrate animals are capable of intentional behaviour rather than just reflex responses. So he's either functioning well below normal for a human or intentionally punishing you.

It's a form of coercive control and emotional abuse. He's being deliberately vile so that you eventually end the relationship and he remains innocent and blameless - classic cowardly misogynist tactic.