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To have had one small glass of champagne last night (26w pregnant)

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bluemoon2468 · 28/06/2020 11:36

Basically, what I'm trying to establish is how many mums can actually say they didn't have a sip of alcohol during their entire pregnancy?

Last night I celebrated a friend's birthday with a very small glass of champagne, just less than half of a standard size champagne flute. This was my first drink since a couple of weeks before I conceived, aside from a few very occasional sips of other people's drinks here and there (e.g. tasting a cocktail DH made a few weeks ago with a small sip). I have no particular plans to drink again whilst pregnant, but I won't rule out another small drink at some point before I give birth if I fancy it.

I'm pretty comfortable with my decision, but am just wondering whether in reality most mothers engage in the occasional drink in pregnancy or stay strictly tee total?

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glueandstick · 28/06/2020 13:47

I drank (moderately) all the way through

burntpinky · 28/06/2020 13:49

I have the odd half a glass here and there (22 weeks with second). Didn’t at all in first trimester but think the odd bit is fine here and there afterwards. Though I probs won’t bother again now as on the 2 occasions I’ve had a little wine it’s tasted “corked” (it wasn’t) and didn’t enjoy it. When not pregnant I drink for the taste rather than the effect so given it’s tasting rank at the minute I think I’m not going to bother again. That said, I will still have the odd sip of my DH’s beer occasionally as that tastes fine, but I wouldn’t have a beer to myself

Standrewsschool · 28/06/2020 13:58

Late 90s, the advice was not to drink routinely, but the odd glass here and there was fine. I think we were more cautious with unpasteurised cheese products, and Macdonald milkshakes And 99 ice creams due to listeria.

Silenceisnotgolden · 28/06/2020 13:59

@Twizbe read the post input directly underneath clearly stating I was being sarcastic.

ScubaSteven · 28/06/2020 14:01

Yeah a glass every now and then is supposed to be ok, but once a week is extreme. I think there are a lot of 'cool' types commenting on here; drinking during pregnancy really isn't recommended because there just isn't the research to show it isn't damaging, there is a lot of evidence to say that it is damaging - what we don't have is a comprehensive study which shows just how much consumption is damaging.

Alcohol is metabolised according to the person, it isn't possible to say that one glass definitely will or won't have an effect and then it's impossible to say whether that effect will cause damage. For that reason I didn't drink, I also limited my caffeine through drinks and through foods. I think drinking in pregnancy is irresponsible, it's not worth the risk. My child had a complication that is regularly linked to caffeine consumption in pregnancy - I limited my intake but didn't stop it, so it's impossible to say that the caffeine didn't cause it because I only had a 'bit'. Clearly, a 'bit' was enough.

For the argument that a lot of women drink before they realise they are pregnant and are fine there will be women who did the same thing and weren't 'fine'. FAS is a recognised condition - it happens.

FWIW people comparing drinking alcohol to getting in a car - really? When you're driving you can measure and assess the risk as you take the journey, you can stop if the conditions aren't right and you have safety measures built into the car which will also minimise the effect should a crash happen. With alcohol, you lose all control over what it will do the second you swallow it. I'm not sure the 2 are comparable?

Graphista · 28/06/2020 14:03

"Are you suggesting that a HCP personal opinions are more important than science?"

No

I'm stating as FACT that hcps know more about medical issues than statisticians

@LaurieMarlow pregnancy loss especially early pregnancy loss is woefully under-researched and causes under recorded, in the uk the vast majority of early pregnancy loss isn't even investigated, even the most basic investigation/tests aren't done.

One post doesn't give a true picture of people's opinions and action on this topic.

Planterspots · 28/06/2020 14:04

I didn’t as I had a high risk pregnancy and I was overly anxious throughout. However plenty of my fiends have had the odd drink during pregnancy and I don’t see the problem.

Shinyletsbebadguys · 28/06/2020 14:06

Ergh the selfish crew are out I see must be their idea of a wet dream to find something so easy to bosom hoik about. OP as long as you are sensible it's fine. I didn't drink in either of my pregnancies but they were both quite high risk (specifically in the first it was diabetes related so of course sugar in alcohol would have been a nightmare) , however I once upon a time oversaw a treatment service for pregnancy and alcohol addiction as well as an addiction rehab for women (sorry not suggesting it's an addiction issue more to mention where my view comes from rather than it just be random ) and the issue was sustained alcohol use above the healthy limits. Even those I saw drinking regularly did not impact the baby (please don't get me wrong at that level it was luck and I am certainly not suggesting regular drinking is ok).

One glass of champagne or a few over a period of weeks will not make any difference. Of course I would limit it , in that we know alcohol isn't the healthiest thing in the world for any of us or the baby , but it's not going to harm the baby or cause long term ill effect.

Flamingolingo · 28/06/2020 14:06

I voted YANBU - although I didn’t have any alcohol in pregnancy, that was more to do with me not being much of a drinker. My midwife actually instructed me to have a glass of champagne on NYE, so I can’t see it’s an issue

Averyyounggrandmaofsix · 28/06/2020 14:09

I didn't know I was pregnant until I was 8 weeks so alcohol was innocently drunk in the first few drinks. I gave birth to a beautiful bonnie bouncing boy. That was the 70s though.

Averyyounggrandmaofsix · 28/06/2020 14:10

Weeks not drinks

monkeyonthetable · 28/06/2020 14:13

OP when I was pregnant my GP (who had helped me through a number of miscarriages and knew how desperate I was to have children) wrote a joke prescription on real prescription paper for '2 glasses of champagne on Christmas Day'. She wouldn't have done that unless she'd been sure it wouldn't harm the foetus, which would have been 8 weeks at the time.

I think the 'drink nothing' rule is just because it;s easier to remember than keeping track of being careful. In France it's normal to drink a small amount during pregnancy. In UK, in my lifetime, anaemic women were prescribed 1/2 pint of Guinness a day for iron. Alcohol doesn't harm: too much alcohol does.

maryd84 · 28/06/2020 14:14

I thought that drinking during pregnancy was a big no noShock

Cfdmorris · 28/06/2020 14:17

When I was pregnant 30 years ago, avoiding alcohol entirely was not a thing...nor was avoiding nuts, cheese etc. There were other risks that were far more prevalent ....as those risks have decreased by understanding causes and public health campaigns ( eg immunisations, back to sleep , lack of folic acid, smoking etc), other risks such as small risks of low alcohol consumption or eating soft cheese, become more dominant and public health campaigning moves to that. It’s progress of a sort. So it’s a low risk to drink small amounts...but a wholesale advice to all mothers to avoid completely will save some babies....but for most will have no impact. You know your other risk factors and what you are drinking- only you can assess that.

BeneathTheMilkyTwilight · 28/06/2020 14:17

I don't think you did anything wrong BUT I also didn't drink any alcohol at all during pregnancy.

Emmagen · 28/06/2020 14:19

I had one small glass of champagne on christmas morning and one small glass of bucks fizz (mostly orange juice) on boxing day in my last pregnancy at over 8 months along. Didn't fancy anything at new year though because it was just me and DH at home.

Also had a sip of cider at a wedding around 20wks because it was a local cider and I wanted to try it.

Never felt guilty about it. This time I will probably go the entire pregnancy tee total. I'm not a big drinker anyway and only drink in groups and won't be pregnant at Christmas.

Beebie2 · 28/06/2020 14:19

During training on foetal alcohol syndrome with a paediatric consultant and a social worker, they said that it isn’t necessarily the volume consumed, it is dependent on the point in development of the foetus.

Obviously, women who drink heavily are more likely to drink on days in which crucial development takes place, than those who don’t drink heavily. So, the more you drink, the more likely the foetus will be affected.

But..... Technically, you could get totally drunk 3 or 4 times, and not affect the development at all, due to the days you consumed alcohol, but another pregnant woman could drink lightly on just one day, and affect the growing baby.

An example they gave was the formation of the mouth and nose - if the mother drinks during this window of development, then a physical effect may be seen. If they drink heavily, but not in this window of development, the mouth and nose may develop normally.

Some children with foetal alcohol syndrome can therefore have the physical effects, but others may not - for example brain development isn’t externally visible - it could be later that cognitive defects or behavioural issues become known.

The advice they gave was don’t drink at all, it’s very difficult to know when it will be safe.

They also said, the amount you consume is multiplied by 3 for the baby - if you drink half a glass, your baby is affected by the equivalent of 1 and a half glasses, due to their inability to process alcohol.

They said in terms of long term impact, heroin has fewer long term physical effects. Clearly having a parent who is an addict, will impact greatly on a child, but purely on a physical basis, the baby can be weaned off the hard drugs, but the impact of alcohol is irreversible.

www.fasdnetwork.org/what-is-fasd.html

GingerBeverage · 28/06/2020 14:20

I didn't have any alcohol during pregnancy but I know women who would happily have a glass every now and then.

For me, the guilt I would have felt if anything negative had happened would have been too huge. Other women don't have the same circumstances.
I do think the zero alcohol beers on the market have come a long way and are worth investigating.

TurquoiseDress · 28/06/2020 14:21

YANBU

I had the very occasional drink during my pregnancies but mainly stuck to alcohol free beer (the wines ones are grim!)

In my first pregnancy I was at a wedding while 7 months pregnant, I allowed myself a glass of champagne which I was happy to have.

There were 2 other heavily pregnant women at that wedding- one seemed to be necking lots of red wine the other was outside smoking a few times Shock

WorraLiberty · 28/06/2020 14:22

@maryd84

I thought that drinking during pregnancy was a big no noShock
So is having an unhealthy BMI but how many of the bosom hoikers here sorted that out before choosing to get pregnant?

Everyone can point the finger at someone for something.

SallyWD · 28/06/2020 14:22

Half a small glass of champagne as a one off is fine. You should have seen how much my French sister in law used to drink when pregnant. I was shocked. She said it's perfectly normal in France.

soundsystem · 28/06/2020 14:24

People on here get hysterical about this, but everyone I know in real life did similar. I don't think I know anyone who drank in the first trimester, but I had a half glass the same as you on a couple of occasions later in pregnancy. And a glass of red wine at 41+ weeks as recommended by a midwife who thought it would help me relax and rest ready for Labour!

OllyBJolly · 28/06/2020 14:24

Definitely not. I'd like to say it was because I have steely self-discipline but the reality is that I couldn't bear the smell or taste. Couldn't even think about it.

Felt the same about tea, coffee and chocolate. (and haven't really enjoyed chocolate or coffee since).

okilydokily · 28/06/2020 14:25

I had a small glass of wine roughly once a week or once a fortnight, through both pregnancies. I remember reading up on it at the time (around 7-9 years ago) and finding that there was no evidence of harm to the baby with low levels of drinking. Recently it does seem like most pregnant women abstain completely.

keeprocking · 28/06/2020 14:28

but it's so grim watching a pregnant woman drinking

Not as grim as watching the self-righteous get so up-tight about it though. It used to be recommended, eons ago, that women drank milk stout and guess what, their babies survived, often with fewer issues than seem to be the norm nowadays.

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