This headteacher is right - so why suspnd her

[Whysomanyexcuses]

This headteacher has said what many parents have been saying yet suspended .....
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8463765/Sunderland-head-teacher-suspended-saying-staff-sat-home-doing-lockdown.html#comments

We need more head teachers like this - our children have been failed.

YABU - she should say nothing - let it go - ignore the ones who have done nothing to help children
YANBU - she is correct to say it as it is - children have been let down

I don’t think that’s true at all witch

XingMing, Ah, right, "flipped off."

Your latest post has told us more than you imagine.

She was being a bitch

But I assume
You share the view ‘all teachers are lazy’
This has been done to death on here

Grow up and find a new topic

@greentreesdream

I don’t think that’s true at all witch

It's ENTIRELY true.

It's a mixed bag, some schools fab, others not. We're looking to move our children, possibly private. They deserve more that the standard provided at their current school.

I think the motivated and good teachers, acknowledged the bar was set low and went above it. Some teachers clearly didn't and probably won't care about any negative views/posts.

@CallmeAngelina, I'd disagree that this is a global disaster. It's a nasty, unfamiliar virus that we don't have a vaccine for, yet. But it's not hazardous for most people under 50. Surely, you keep at risk people out of circulation, sending lessons and links, but you keep the rest going with their education, come what may. They have to emerge at the end with knowledge and competence to take their place in the world. Who, otherwise, is going to pay for your pension?

I don't get why teachers on here who work their butts off keep defending lazy teachers who let who let loads of kids down. You keep trying to shut down conversations on here, the reality is quite a lot of your colleagues were asleep at the wheel, and have neglected to their duty. At least this HT was hinest.

You don't think that the Coronavirus has had a devastating effect, not only on the health of millions (not just from Covid, but from the delayed diagnosis and treatment of other diseases), but also on the economies of every country afflicted?

@XingMing

But I am not being pushed into goady mode, and I am a qualified teacher. Super-aged too. The profession has lost too many people like me; I qualified at 53, and no busy school wants a 53 yo NQT who was successful in another (academically demanding) profession, who is likely to question received wisdom from management, or the daily data download.

Understandably, they want malleable 25 year olds, who have never left education before they start teaching. Because they can be frightened into toeing the line, for promotion.

So we are flipped off, but some of what I have learned from people and books during my 63 years could be passed on if schools were more open to offers of support. I don't really want to teach full time, but I would happily do small remedial classes in English or basic maths for free, but having offered to do so locally to a resounding silence, I assume no school needs ANY help. Private schools accept a lot more input from parents and other benefactors gracefully, as useful for their students.

Do you really think a head who openly criticises staff who were unable to work from home (and were therefore likely to be shielding/fully covered by the government provisions/protected by Equalities legislation) would have the slightest interest in somebody like you? You've already said you're expensive and likely to take no shit.

In any case, doing stuff for free means taking employment away from others. Go and do it for rich people instead.

I don't understand the defending either. It's pretty obvious how much or little some schools have been interacting/supporting and setting work.
I appreciate there is unseen work especially with vulnerable groups.

We'll plan visits to the schools we have heard positive feedback.

I imagine the school has a high ish number of vulnerable children who are in which would maybe necessitate more teachers being in. It is very difficult to get childcare though and I think schools should be able to call on teachers from other local schools to volunteer to step in if struggling

I am a teacher. The unions have not had any power for ages, and they hate the Tories for all the rubbish that they have subjected them to over the years. The unions are shadow boxing because it's the first time since the 60's they have had any real power. IMO the unions do a poor job of improving the working lives of teachers. I work in further education and I consistently work FAR more hours than I am paid for and the union can not do anything about it.

@Whysomanyexcuses you are a teacher basher just admit you wanted your five minutes in the spotlight and lots of verification that your opinion is corrrect, content in your opinion that all teachers must be lazy because you said so, you are the oracle, you know everything! After all it was in the daily fail and any other shitrag you can find.

Zzzzzzzz enough already. There is zero point in trying to defend the profession when this is what we are up against. Just don’t whine when everyone resigns because they are sick of this bullshit.

Imagine everyday working your arse off- every paper every social media post stays your lazy, your shit, you should just die, be brave, you can't do your job, your worthless, my neighbour is a teacher and she does nothing therefore all teachers do nothing, just die you think you are so special.

Repeat 5 million times.

Pro union = anti education, that's the way it feels.

Possibly so, but when I offered to volunteer, it was free, gratis and without expectation of payment or future employment. It was just FREE.
I have the luxury of being able to offer free help because I want to and now retired, I can afford to offer 10 hours volunteer work a week, to help. I really don't get the hostility.

I don’t think every post questioning a teacher is a teacher basher angelina so shoot me and I don’t understand why the screaming every single time.

It’s turning education topics on here absolutely fucking toxic.

@brakethree

I thought it was common knowledge that it is nigh on impossible to get rid of a crap teacher, perhaps she has had enough and this is the only way to highlight it. If she had staff that refused to come in for 3 days instead of 2 and she can't discipline or sack them then it must be very difficult for her. Perhaps she is also aware of the very many parents who have been dismayed about the poor performance and support they have received from some schools/teachers - note the 'some'. I am amazed how the teachers on here all seem to defend every other teacher regardless, this is the only workplace I know that does this!

It's no more difficult to get rid of a crap teacher than it is to get rid of a crap anything else.

For some reason schools seem to be much less likely to identify and/or tackle underperformance then other employers.

NB I'm not suggesting that there were any crap teachers in this scenario, which seems to be more about teachers' conduct than about their poor performance.

If what the HT has has said is true, and how convenient that she's handing in her notice, she is the one at fault for not managing her staff.

That's what she gets paid to do

For some reason schools seem to be much less likely to identify and/or tackle underperformance then other employers

And you base this on what? A feeling in your water? :o

@UserErrorMessage We’re not defending them, we’re saying just the opposite! If senior management are to blame, that should be dealt with by Heads / Governors. If individuals are to blame, there is a disciplinary process.
I find it all really quite strange when every teacher I know is a hard worker. It’s not a job for the faint hearted! I changed career to be a teacher and it’s far, far harder than any previous role. Every teacher I know absolutely throws themselves into it because it’s a job they love. If anyone isn’t working hard, that really needs to be dealt with via the disciplinary procedure. Unless of course there are good reasons such as management blocking work, disability, childcare etc which need to be sorted in other ways.

She is the headteacher, she is supposed to lead her team of teachers by showing/telling them what to do. By belittling her staff in such a public way, is not the way to behave or to put teachers in a good light-or herself.

Having read what she did to her staff, she was a CF of the highest order.

Good riddance.

We all know that there are a lot of outstanding teachers out there, those that go above and beyond and have continued to do so during the lockdown. However it is also very clear that there are many schools and teachers who have done the minimum or less. Government guidelines are frequently blamed however then we read what staff have been doing that isn't in the government guidelines. If teachers think that the general population will blame the government then they are sadly mistaken, whether it's right or not, the schools/teachers that have delivered the minimum or not done much taint the whole profession. I am still amazed at the number of clearly very dedicated teachers on mumsnet defend the whole profession. There is NO profession that is 100% perfect, given the volume of teachers there will be bad/lazy ones, I just don't get why they aren't called out by their colleagues.

@Mitzi, I said upfront, first up, that I offered help for FREE. That means no pay, no benefits... just pro bono. My time, for nowt, to be used to benefit the students who are the people missing out. Sorry that you can't even accept a volunteer free offer.