To be really shocked at what's just happened

[octobersky19]

I'm walking with DH, DS 8mo in the pram and I'm pregnant.

Next thing, two kids around 5/6 start shouting:

"Hey fatty, hey bitch... do you suck his penis... "

Followed by so much more stuff, all kinds of disgusting language I never in a million years would assume a child would know

Another lady walking past with a baby in a pram was called a "stupid slag"

I asked where their mother was, it became apparent she was sitting inside of a cafe. After more abuse my DH went into the cafe and asked their mum if they were her children and explained what they'd been saying...

She shouts a man, says "[name] go sort your fking kids out"

Husband shuts door, we go on our way.

Man comes out, shouts my husband accuses him of speaking to his wife like shit, accuses him of slamming door, hes in my husbands face and demanding an apology, the man apologised to me???? And then calls my husband obscenities.

A little google later, he's well known in my area. I can't say much.

I'm in absolute shock, my husband is the furthest from rude and I can't believe what's actually just happened I'm shaking! I thought he was going to attack my husband.

His wife did not seem to be bothered by what my husband told her, she didn't seem offended.

I needed to rant, I'm in shock.

Children’s welfare is EVERYONE’S responsibility.

I agree. You need to report to NSPCC or social services. The children need to learn language like that groom somewhere. If the dad is that verbally aggressive towards them in public imagine what he does in private. Although what happened to you was really unpleasant the children are the real victims in all this.

*from somewhere.

For a child age 5 to know about sucking cock you have to think what they have been exposed to.

I was saying this to DH but he is incredibly well known for reasons that I can't go into, I would be concerned for our safety You would be concerned for your own safety but not for the safety of the children?

You're an adult and you found this "so scary". How do you think the children feel?

Safeguarding is everyone's duty.

Daisyxxchainxx I don't think it's fair to blame the children or call them scum due to their parents failings.

They grow up into the next generation of scum. Sadly the kids are innocent but don't get shown respect. Perfect example. Children shouting abuse at adults with children. Give it ten years and they will be beating people up. Unless they go the other way and choose to not follow their parents. But sadly they often follow. Not nice words to call a child I agree. I more mean in the future. Right now they are just disrespectful sods who need squaring up.

They’re obviously imitating their parents, but I think they’re probably also doing it to get attention. If they’re just permanently subdued at home and, instead of cuddles or adults showing an interest, are just told to F-off and given a tirade of verbal abuse (and who knows what other abuse too), I can kind of understand how they might go outside and do this. Very negative attention is still attention to those who aren’t getting any.

I genuinely don't understand how these people can operate at that level of rage all the time. All of that 'who you looking at?" aggression constantly simmering on the surface. They seem to be endlessly looking for people to confront.

It must be a horrible way to feel .

I totally agree - it must be just so exhausting living like that. What must their resting blood pressure be like? Even if you’re the kind of person who doesn’t really have the ability for reasoned thought and calm disputing and will instead see a fist fight as a valid/standard way of resolving differences, I still don’t understand why you would spend your whole time actively seeking fights. It’s a physical equivalent of that horrible way of speaking that some people have where every other word begins with an F. Not in the context of wanting to express a very serious emotion, but just as punctuation. Try it with any other word and it's clear as day how intensely stupid it makes you sound: "Sausage, I sausaging told him just sausaging shut it or.... sausaging.... I'll sausaging kill yer, sausaging - just sausage off you sausaging sausage."

It sounds so pathetic when they just launch into a swear word when they clearly haven’t thought about what words will follow it. What’s wrong with using ‘hmmm’, 'well' or ‘er’ (or even just a moment’s silence) to buy yourself a few seconds’ thinking time like everybody else?

Surely life is just so much easier and more pleasant when you default to 'nice' and only escalate things when genuinely necessary? Why would you choose the difficult way and want to expend all of that energy on a permanent basis?

Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, but how did you Google him without knowing his name?

Be wary of reporting, people like this are very capable of inflicting harm to you or your property

Be wary of reporting, people like this are very capable of inflicting harm to you or your property Yeah screw the kids who are in danger.

That's so sad really. Not uncommon though is it.
Of course it's uncommon. I've never had anything like that happen, I'd find it shocking. I suspect most people would.

Be wary of reporting, people like this are very capable of inflicting harm to you or your property

What about inflicting harm on the children?

I would make an anonymous report to social services. If they were saying this sort of stuff to people passing it could be anyone that reported them.
To know stuff like that and to be confident enough to shout it out to people they must have been exposed to sexual conduct either through videos etc or in real life!

I agree, I would report to Social Services too. Those poor children. Sorry you had to hear it as well, I would be shocked too.

Call social services

Do report this to SS and 101, OP. It sounds like the children are subject to verbal/emotional abuse at the very least. Horrid for you to have been subjected to that kind of behaviour, but things must be beyond appalling at home for them to act out that way.

I think it's clear where the kids get it from.

It makes me sad, what chance do they have.

@AKissAndASmile

Apart from the swearing etc, it's very sad that children of that age have been exposed to sexual language like that. I'm sure social services would be interested, because that can be an indicator of sexual abuse.

I assume that is why other posters on here are mentioning social services. SS wouldn't be interested in yelling or swearing, but if there is abuse going on, yes, they would likely intervene.

@ArriettyJones

Honestly it was so scary, I've never known anything like it. As we were walking along the street away from them we heard him roar at the children.

I can't believe it.

With respect, if that’s the scariest thing you’ve ever experienced, you’ve lead a charmed life.

I should imagine the cafe will go broke pretty quickly if the DC and DH behave like that towards passersby. So they won’t be causing a nuisance there for long.

The roaring isn't the issue though He was likely roaring at them because they had been naughty. The issue is that they children may have been exposed to sexual abuse due or porn due to the things they were saying. Or possible the father abuses the mother verbally in front of them (eg calling her a fat slag etc) those things would be safeguarding issues.

The roaring isn't the issue though He was likely roaring at them because they had been naughty. The issue is that they children may have been exposed to sexual abuse due or porn due to the things they were saying. Or possible the father abuses the mother verbally in front of them (eg calling her a fat slag etc) those things would be safeguarding issues.

Absolutely. I wasn’t suggesting the roaring was the problem.

The problem is that the OP seems more focused on her own (disproportionate) fear than on the welfare of the DC.

the lesson is to mind your own business. sorry about that.. never get involved... why would you stop from your own day to report some kids for their disgusting language...- what the hell do you care..?

Those children are neglected and in danger. You won't be the first to call SS about their plight and their future might tip one way or the other based on whether or not you report the incident. They are just about young enough for their futures to be salvaged, but the longer they stay with their current carers, the lower their chances.

What does everyone saying report to social services think will happen about children using some bad language and parents appearing not to care? The bar is so much higher (lower?) than that

@UltimateWednesday exactly. If you know anyone who works in child protection then you will know that it takes far more than shouting sexual language And parents being threatening for anyone to be able to do anything, however it doesn’t hurt. Enough calls and something might be investigated

Although thinking about it, I would be surprised if they weren’t being closely monitored already