Page 3 | AIBU to think ALL the rules have become blurred?

Peterbishopssarcasticsmile · 2020-06-25T23:09:21+00:00

It's like people have gone a bit feral! Now that lockdown is easing it's almost like people have no fear of any kind of reprisal at all, for anything. Where I live people have been acting really antisocially, parking all over the place etc etc The heat and easing of lockdown in sight seems to have done something to some people and it's starting to freak me out a bit. I'm actually dreading the weekend the pubs open. If Bournemouth beach today has shown us anything it's shown us that common sense has gone out of the window and a disturbing number of people have no care for anyone else or anything else It's quite unsettling

bridgetreilly · 26/06/2020 10:15

absolutely full of a cold, snotty nose which he kept wiping with his hand then touching produce and replacing it, sniffing constantly, sneezing explosively every 3 mins or so

No, because that is NOT a symptom of coronavirus.

FFS. If there's one thing you'd hope people would know by this stage it's what the symptoms actually are of the deadly disease sweeping our nation. But apparently not.

Kazzyhoward · 26/06/2020 10:25

The rules/guidance is actually VERY clear. Just look on the Gov.uk website. All written in plain simple English, bullet points, etc.

Trouble is that the media reporting of the entire Covid crisis has been utterly abysmal. Whenever there's a change in guidance, rather than clearly reporting the change, they gloss over it and go straight into a Boris criticism mode. Just look at Kuensberg and Peston at the daily briefings. The officials made announcements, the journalist questions SHOULD have been about the announcements, seeking clarity etc., but Kuensberg and Peston would always make some stupid question about things that happened weeks/months ago, just so that they could get a quote for their evening news segment.

Right at the beginning, businesses closed because they thought they had to after watching the TV news. People stopped going out because they didn't think they were "key" or "essential" workers. If they'd looked at the Gov.uk website for the facts, they'd have seen that the media reporting was wrong. The same has happened time and time again ever since.

And I hate to break it to the Cummings haters, but he was right all along. Moving for childcare reasons was always allowed as per Gov.uk website guidance. Just because the media reported it wrongly when that guidance was announced, doesn't mean it didn't exist. It wasn't some obscure loophole that the lefties tried to claim - it was clearly written in black and white on the website.

Perhaps people need to start learning how to research things for themselves rather than relying on the media, Twatter and Facecloth and relying on it being correct (it usually isn't!).

Kazzyhoward · 26/06/2020 10:27

No, because that is NOT a symptom of coronavirus.

But IT IS a way of Covid being spread around if the guy was infected, hence why people are wise to avoid such people, and for the good of everyone, people with colds really should stay inside, or at least wear a mask, gloves, etc to limit the potential spread.

Destroyedpeople · 26/06/2020 10:29

'Twatter and facecloth'

MsMonkey · 26/06/2020 11:14

The rules are purposely unclear- what does 'stay alert' even mean in practical terms? They've changed them every 5 minutes and relaxed lockdown against the advice of scientists, and while we still have thousands of cases.

The whole point was to detract from Dom's eyesight testing jolly, and it's worked.

People are now just following the government's example, which is essentially do whatever the fuck you like, bend the rules and there will be no comeback.

NameChange84 · 26/06/2020 11:16

Exactly @Kazzyhoward

And we have, repeatedly on television at the briefings been told to stay at home with not just cough and fever but “new cold like symptoms”. The numerous signs on the door outside the shop said “STOP! Do not enter if you have cough, temperature or cold and flu type symptoms.” And the stupid bastard ignored it and spread whatever germs he had all over the supermarket.

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Peterbishopssarcasticsmile · 26/06/2020 11:24

Sorry I disagree this is an understandable reaction to lockdown
Heckling people, being threatening, destroying your environment, damaging property - how is this understandable? How are these people victims of lockdown?
Yes there are victims of lockdown but I highly doubt these people are. They seem to be having a merry old time without any disregard for anything or anyone else.
I've never been so ashamed to be British. If there were any way we could leave this country, right now I feel like I would do it.

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Kazzyhoward · 26/06/2020 11:25

The rules are purposely unclear- what does 'stay alert' even mean in practical terms? They've changed them every 5 minutes and relaxed lockdown against the advice of scientists, and while we still have thousands of cases.

Have you actually bothered to look and read the Gov.uk website??

Heidi1976 · 26/06/2020 11:28

Just let them get on with it. Stay away from people yourselves, wear masks, do what you need to do. When the second wave hits (which it will with everything that's gone on lately) and they all get sick then it's their own fault and own doing when it's them and their friends and families losing their lives or becoming seriously poorly. A large proportion of people only learn when it impacts them personally unfortunately....

ChavvySexPond · 26/06/2020 12:05

I hear about Dominic Cummings a lot. Where I live everything seems largely still like lockdown but whenever anybody tells me about somebody being inconsiderate, reckless and anti-social regarding the Covid guidelines Dominic Cummings always gets a mention, usually from the offending party.

I'm sure some people seize on any excuse but maybe for a lot of people, following the rules was just about acceptable when they applied to everybody. Once Dominic Cummings flouted them, everyone could.

Kazzyhoward · 26/06/2020 12:15

Just let them get on with it. Stay away from people yourselves, wear masks, do what you need to do. When the second wave hits (which it will with everything that's gone on lately) and they all get sick then it's their own fault and own doing when it's them and their friends and families losing their lives or becoming seriously poorly. A large proportion of people only learn when it impacts them personally unfortunately....

Unfortunately it won't be the feckless and stupid who'll suffer. They get it mildly but pass it onto others. Then the hospitals will start closing again due to so many staff being off sick, and people will start getting their cancer treatment cancelled again (those lucky enough to have got it restarted that is). I just can't believe how selfish people can be and how so many people can't see that it's all going to start spreading exponentially again if they are so thick they can't follow simple/easy precautions.

Heidi1976 · 26/06/2020 12:54

@Kazzyhoward

Just let them get on with it. Stay away from people yourselves, wear masks, do what you need to do. When the second wave hits (which it will with everything that's gone on lately) and they all get sick then it's their own fault and own doing when it's them and their friends and families losing their lives or becoming seriously poorly. A large proportion of people only learn when it impacts them personally unfortunately....

Unfortunately it won't be the feckless and stupid who'll suffer. They get it mildly but pass it onto others. Then the hospitals will start closing again due to so many staff being off sick, and people will start getting their cancer treatment cancelled again (those lucky enough to have got it restarted that is). I just can't believe how selfish people can be and how so many people can't see that it's all going to start spreading exponentially again if they are so thick they can't follow simple/easy precautions.

True. The issue is that cohort of people. The ones who don't get symptoms, or think they are 'invincible' and are inherently selfish. How do you get through to that group of people? It will be those people, with that mindset that literally destroys our country (combined with the governments shitty leadership with the whole thing)

lazylinguist · 26/06/2020 13:08

The rules are purposely unclear- what does 'stay alert' even mean in practical terms?

'Stay alert' isn't a rule, it's just a reminder to pay attention to the rules, which are pretty clearly stated if you go and read them.

chocolatesweets · 26/06/2020 13:20

@Peterbishopssarcasticsmile

Sorry I disagree this is an understandable reaction to lockdown Heckling people, being threatening, destroying your environment, damaging property - how is this understandable? How are these people victims of lockdown? Yes there are victims of lockdown but I highly doubt these people are. They seem to be having a merry old time without any disregard for anything or anyone else. I've never been so ashamed to be British. If there were any way we could leave this country, right now I feel like I would do it.

They are victims of lockdown because locking down has consequences. And a lot for some people. Imagine you couldn't work from home, you've lost your job. You haven't got a big garden to be scared in.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 26/06/2020 13:45

They are victims of lockdown because locking down has consequences. And a lot for some people. Imagine you couldn't work from home, you've lost your job. You haven't got a big garden to be scared in

I can't work from home
I've probably lost my job
I haven't got a garden

I'm not shitting on beaches & leaving rubbish everywhere. There is NO justification for anti social, nasty, behaviour. NONE

chocolatesweets · 26/06/2020 14:11

@LatteLoverLovesLattes

They are victims of lockdown because locking down has consequences. And a lot for some people. Imagine you couldn't work from home, you've lost your job. You haven't got a big garden to be scared in

I can't work from home
I've probably lost my job
I haven't got a garden

I'm not shitting on beaches & leaving rubbish everywhere. There is NO justification for anti social, nasty, behaviour. NONE

I agree there is no justification for the behaviour. But it could cause some people to react that way. Just because you aren't doesn't mean other people wouldn't. It's sad and yes, disgusting but calling them useless pieces of crap and shaming them will only make it worse.

MsMonkey · 26/06/2020 16:14

Stay alert' isn't a rule, it's just a reminder to pay attention to the rules, which are pretty clearly stated if you go and read them.

The majority of people aren't going to study the rules on the Government website though are they? It's just a meaningless phrase designed to absolve the government of responsibility.

Destroyedpeople · 26/06/2020 20:22

Yes exactly because if you don't stay 'alert' it will be your fault that you get it.
Ridiculous propaganda phrase.
Reminds me of that old graffiti. ...'be alert..Britain needs lerts'

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Peterbishopssarcasticsmile · 26/06/2020 20:35

@chocolatesweets but does that really justify such abhorrent behaviour to other people? Going to the beach, yes I can see that but there's no excuse for all the rest

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MsAwesomeDragon · 26/06/2020 20:51

@Heidi1976

Just let them get on with it. Stay away from people yourselves, wear masks, do what you need to do. When the second wave hits (which it will with everything that's gone on lately) and they all get sick then it's their own fault and own doing when it's them and their friends and families losing their lives or becoming seriously poorly. A large proportion of people only learn when it impacts them personally unfortunately....

I would stay away from those people, but unfortunately my job requires me to be in a classroom with multiple teen-agers who may or may not have been part of these mass gatherings and parties. There are several pupils that I taught today who I believe have been meeting up with large groups of others without any social distancing. Hell, they've been walking to and from school in groups with no thought to not touching each other, and sharing food on the way. So if they or their families are ignoring lockdown rules that has a direct impact on MY safety. And that's before we get into the wider impact of the litter, the excrement (I haven't heard of any of that happening near me tbh, but maybe it has), the antisocial behaviour, that should be abhorrent at any time.