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The Great American Comeback Festival - Not (Trump Thread #102)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 24/06/2020 17:25

President Trump: "Two things have never changed: a wall and a wheel" Yuma, AZ. 23/06/20

Neither have ramps...

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lionheart · 08/07/2020 10:28

edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/politics/us-attorney-brooklyn-barr-ally/index.html

'The Justice Department is considering replacing the US attorney in Brooklyn with a senior department official close to Attorney General William Barr, officials briefed on the matter said.

On Thursday, Richard Donoghue, the US attorney for the Eastern District of New York, told his staff he'd be stepping down to move to Washington as the Justice Department's principal associate deputy attorney general, a powerful position that acts as a gatekeeper to investigations across the country, a spokesman for the office, John Marzulli, told CNN.'

BruceAndNosh · 08/07/2020 12:22

Kanye West seems serious about standing.
His policies so far seem to be simultaneously extremely right AND left of Trump's
Anti vaccine and anti abortion. Just what the USA doesn't need.
www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jul/08/kanye-west-takes-anti-vaccine-anti-abortion-stance-in-us-presidential-bid

All he's going to do is fuck up the current 2 horse race and let Trump in by default

crosseyedMary · 08/07/2020 12:27

I'm worried that too many people will fancy Kanye West can be thier 'useful idiot'👀

PerkingFaintly · 08/07/2020 12:31

I'm bemused at the suggestion West would take votes from Biden.

Surely with a personality, appeal and complete lack of any concrete manifesto so very similar to Trump, he will appeal to people who might vote for Trump?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/07/2020 12:35

West needs to give his head a serious wobble...
(On the other hand - he's a squirrel with history.)

West, a celebrity highly skilled in grabbing the spotlight, has previously announced plans to run for president without doing so.
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Even with a serious campaign, West would be unlikely to draw more than a few percentage points of the vote, peeling away similar numbers of votes from Trump and Biden, said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics.

"He's got a long way to go even to convince us that he's serious," said Sabato.

The most recent candidate to put significant effort into launching a presidential campaign a few months before the election was Evan McMullin, a former CIA operative who announced his bid in August 2016. McMullin only appeared on the ballot in 11 states, receiving 0.53% of the popular vote.

"There's a way to run as an outsider but it's hard and expensive, and I think West, or anyone else, has missed their window of opportunity to have a meaningful impact," said Nathan Gonzales, editor of Inside Elections, which provides nonpartisan analysis of campaigns.

What would Kanye West have to do to launch a late White House bid?
mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2460S4

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crosseyedMary · 08/07/2020 12:40

It would be pretty funny trying to see Kanye West wobble his head when it's so far up his own arse, he's a complete and utter egomaniac

crosseyedMary · 08/07/2020 12:44

I think the Kanye West presidency would look something like this
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dictator_(2012_film)

TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/07/2020 12:55

As my mother used to say "More money than sense".

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lionheart · 08/07/2020 13:19

At least he's not endorsing Trump anymore. Smile

Roussette · 08/07/2020 14:16

But Kanye is not well is he... I think he's been diagnosed as bipolar and when he went to the Oval Office and it was all filmed, he was completely rambling, awful language and talking nonsense. Even Trump had trouble with him and was a bit taken aback!
If he had a mental evaluation, he surely wouldn't be able to even stand? He's the David Icke of the US with his 'theories' too

lionheart · 08/07/2020 14:41

He's not well and it's a damn shame that there does not appear to be anyone close who is willing/able to protect him.

BruceAndNosh · 08/07/2020 15:08

@lionheart

He's not well and it's a damn shame that there does not appear to be anyone close who is willing/able to protect him.
He's got a wife who should be saying Honey, I don't think this is a good idea. Instead she's most probably thinking it might be good for ratings for KUWTK
TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/07/2020 15:20

Yes sadly, even though his MH issues are apparent, he's a golden goose/meal ticket for his many hangers on. Although now I guess KK is richer than he is?

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Roussette · 08/07/2020 16:34

This is truly awful. Purple heart Col. Vindman who testified at the impeachment hearings, forced out.

@kylegriffin1
Lt. Col. Vindman is retiring from the US Army after 21+ years because he determined his future "will forever be limited" due to retaliation by Trump and his allies. Vindman endured a "campaign of bullying, intimidation, and retaliation," his attorney said.

Vindman's attorney: "The President of the United States attempted to force LTC Vindman to choose: Between adhering to the law or pleasing a President. Between honoring his oath or protecting his career. Between protecting his promotion or the promotion of his fellow soldiers."

This really is a new low.

I watched the hearings. He came across as such a principled man.

lionheart · 08/07/2020 17:40

www.politico.com/news/2020/07/07/congress-russian-bounty-afghanistan-350915

'Members of Congress were consumed last week with reports that the Russian government was paying bounties to Taliban militants who killed U.S. troops overseas. But they now appear poised to do little — if anything — about it.'

thehill.com/homenews/media/506322-tucker-carlson-ratchets-up-criticism-of-duckworth-calls-her-a-coward

'Fox News host Tucker Carlson escalated his criticism of Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) on Tuesday night, calling her a “coward” for refusing to come on his show without a public apology.'

TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/07/2020 17:51

I was just reading about that Rousette
This is Trump's world - where corrupt, amoral military personnel are pardoned and honest, selfless heroes are punished.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/07/2020 18:56

Supreme Court ruling on Trump’s tax returns, financial records to come Thursday

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/trump-tax-returns-supreme-court/2020/07/08/d5e9ac30-c11f-11ea-b4f6-cb39cd8940fb_story.html

The Supreme Court will announce Thursday whether congressional committees and a New York prosecutor are entitled to see President Trump’s personal financial records, after the president has waged an intense legal battle to keep the material secret.


The court said Wednesday that opinions in all remaining cases would be issued Thursday. The court in May held teleconferenced hearings — with the world listening in — on three cases with potential landmark constitutional consequences.


All concern Trump’s long-running legal fight to shield years of income tax returns from public view and keep his private financial records from the hands of Democratic-led House committees and Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.


The court’s decisions will carry major implications for the limits of presidential power and accountability, and could affect the fall election.


Two of the cases, Trump v. Mazars and Trump v. Deutsche Bank, concern the attempts of three House committees to bypass the president to obtain his financial records from his longtime accounting firm and financial institutions. The committees say they are needed to check the president’s financial disclosures and inform whether conflict-of-interest laws are tough enough.


In Trump v. Vance, the president is attempting to stop subpoenas from a grand jury Vance is supervising. He is looking into whether corporate records were altered in violation of state laws to cover up hush-money payments. He, too, is seeking the information from a third-party.

The cases are similar in that they are seeking much the same information. Included are Trump’s tax returns, which every president since Jimmy Carter has made public but Trump has steadfastly guarded.


But they also seek much more. The congressional committees “demand information about seven business entities, as well as the personal accounts of President Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, and Ivanka Trump,” said the brief filed by the president’s private lawyers, Jay Sekulow and William S. Consovoy.


The congressional subpoenas followed testimony from Trump’s former fixer, attorney Michael Cohen, who told lawmakers that Trump had exaggerated his wealth to seek loans. Two committees subpoenaed Capital One and Deutsche Bank as part of their investigation into Russian money laundering and potential foreign influence involving Trump.


Federal judges in New York and Washington, D.C. — at the district court and appeals court levels — moved swiftly by court standards and repeatedly ruled against Trump and to uphold Congress’s broad investigative powers.


In Washington, a divided panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in October rejected Trump’s assertion that Congress’s subpoena was an unconstitutional attempt to harass the president that lacked a “legitimate legislative purpose.”


The appeals court upheld a ruling from U.S. District Court Judge Amit P. Mehta, who wrote, “It is simply not fathomable that a Constitution that grants Congress the power to remove a President for reasons including criminal behavior would deny Congress the power to investigate him for unlawful conduct — past or present — even without formally opening an impeachment inquiry.


A panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit in New York substantially agreed in saying Vance’s subpoena was valid.

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AcrossthePond55 · 08/07/2020 19:17

The forced retirement of Col Vindman is an absolute crime. Unfortunately he probably has neither the money nor the 'heart' to pursue it in the courts. I know from a very different perspective how little protection there actually is from bullying and vindictiveness in both the US Military and Civil Service. I saw more than one colleague hounded from their job by nasty superiors and there was very little that could be done about it unless that person's superiors took decisive action. I can only imagine the 'chain of cowardice' between POTUS and Vindman's direct commanding officer.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/07/2020 19:18

I'm not holding my breath on the SCOTUS tax ruling.

Roussette · 08/07/2020 19:28

That is just awful Across. I'd like to think that Biden (if he gets in, I always say 'if' because I don't want to jinx anything) can reverse some decisions somewhere.
Nasty Trump allowing this to happen, yet that military guy who was trigger happy was pardoned and tweeted about in glowing terms by Trumpy. Of course he doesn't like heroes does he. Makes him uncomfortable as he isn't the big man then.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2020 19:37

It doesn't seem to me that Mary Trump's book is going to have much effect, now I've read some pre-publication articles. There isn't anything there that is a definite "gotcha", is there?

Drat.

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