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To be shocked that some people believe an adult male could go to class with 7 year old children?

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User56788432567 · 24/06/2020 05:07

This is hilarious but also shockingly scary that some people would agree that an adult male could go to school with actual 7 year old children if he identifies as a 7 year old child and also that one female would believe that he can also be a Chinese woman but not a 6’5 Chinese woman as she draws the line at height when it comes to identity 🤯

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GinDaddyRedux · 24/06/2020 05:16

This didn't rock my world or make me go "whoa what is happening?!" I'm afraid. This video is one of the weakest forms of argument. It's a man with a mic going round vox-popping college students who are desperate to be open-minded on camera and not appear as bigots . His point is therefore neatly proven that they'll agree with almost anything just to be as woke as possible.

Now if he went and did this video with legislators, Congress persons, local business people, teachers...

RantyAnty · 24/06/2020 05:37

It's funny how they hesitated at first when he went beyond trans rights in bathrooms. I wonder if their brains were going ,well this doesn't fit my current wokeness, then especially that first woman, got right into being woke about every situation he mentioned.

sidenote: love udub campus at cherry blossom time

Needtolovemyself · 24/06/2020 05:42

My question is what hope do we have if these university students are so thick they can’t see past the end of their noses.

Yeahnahmum · 24/06/2020 06:06

Wtf...

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 24/06/2020 06:09

Not many 6' 5" seven year olds, either.

How come he can be 7 but not a lady? Weird.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 24/06/2020 06:14

I was a bit frustrated at the Chinese question.
If a white looking person told me they were Chinese I would assume they had been born in China or naturalised as a Chinese citizen due to residency.
Nationality isn't the same as ethnicity and its annoying college educated people didn't pick up on this.

JoyFreeCake · 24/06/2020 06:25

I thought the same thing unlimited. I wondered if maybe it had something to do with the way Americans (in the media at least) always seem to append ethnic origin to their nationality, unless you're in the Anglo-German majority in which case you're just American. So to them, saying just "Chinese" implies Chinese nationality and Han ethnicity.

JoyFreeCake · 24/06/2020 06:30

That's garbled. What I mean is that perhaps they'd expect someone in one of the situations you mention to describe himself as White Chinese or European Chinese or American Chinese or something.

ComeBy · 24/06/2020 06:32

It makes me roll my eyes that it is now left to the republican Christian pro lifers to expose the woke sleep walk.

Check out the Family Policy Institute Washington that made that film. They are anti same sex marriage, anti abortion (from conception) and spout grandiose stuff about the greatness of America.

The film is an interesting little exposé, just depressed that it’s premise is now lost from the left liberal arena.

RightIsRight · 24/06/2020 06:36

This is what’s wrong with the world. The Woke Left.

Ijustreallywantacat · 24/06/2020 06:37

Oh just stop it. He is asking ridiculous questions. They are humoring him. These people are anti-choice, pro-trump, abstinence-only education advocates. If you want to align yourself with them go ahead.

Stick to the FWR boards.

user1471510720 · 24/06/2020 07:04

The best thing about the left, is they are all bat crazy and end up arguing amongst themselves and turning on each other. Look at J K Rowling. Tries to bring the conservation back to reality when she was one of them and gets cancelled by the Poorly educated mob.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 24/06/2020 07:12

Joyfreecake
I think they're just very US Centric.
They consider the possibility that people might immigrate to the US. But not that immigration happens between other countries.

alittlelower · 24/06/2020 07:35

They are humoring him

They are not humoring him. They have a tribal allegiance to a very particular political view which says that people's self-chosen 'identity' must always be respected, even when plain sense tells you it is not true. And they are expressing that view.

These people are anti-choice, pro-trump, abstinence-only education advocates. If you want to align yourself with them go ahead What you are doing is expressing allegiance to a view which says that if someone has opinions you do not agree with, you must never agree with anything they say or do.

The college students and you are both displaying a similar mindset of placing ideological position over reality.

Tanith · 24/06/2020 07:55

"It's a man with a mic going round vox-popping college students who are desperate to be open-minded on camera and not appear as bigots"

Depends on what they're studying, doesn't it? We're looking at, possibly, future legislators, Congress persons, local business people, teachers...

Vancouver Island University, in Canada, was involved in a dispute a few years ago over a mature student who identified as a 3 year old:
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-island-university-fetish-student-professor-fired-1.4400306

DickKerrLadies · 24/06/2020 08:01

Ohh I thought this was going to be about Stefoknee.

DickKerrLadies · 24/06/2020 08:01

I don't know how old stefoknee identifies as these days though.

Al1Langdownthecleghole · 24/06/2020 08:03

“If you’re not doing any harm”

Anyone who can’t see why an adult man identifying as a seven-year old is dangerous doesn’t have much critical thinking going on.

And when you watch those interviews as a collection, who is really at risk in the “let’s accept everyone and everything for who they say they are” culture? It’s not the default adult, the white male is it?

alittlelower · 24/06/2020 08:03

who are desperate to be open-minded on camera and not appear as bigots

But that is exactly what is worrying. In the world they are growing up, it is seen as bigoted and close minded to assert plain reality of chosen identity. That means, you always have to prioritise someone else's feelings, over your own expressions of reality. That's a pretty pernicious culture.

LegallyBlue · 24/06/2020 08:09

Literally not one single person in that video says he should be allowed to enrol in a class with seven year olds. Not one. Watch it again. Not one single person says it. They said he could take a first grade class - nothing about taking it with children. He could take it at a college, with other adults who also identify as children or who have learning difficulties or never received an education for whatever reason. Stop making shit up for attention.

CaraDune · 24/06/2020 08:18

Now if he went and did this video with legislators, Congress persons, local business people, teachers...

Well, we do have Layla Moran MP, saying (when asked how one could tell the difference between a genuine transwoman and a man faking being trans for the purposes of voyeurism) that she could see into souls. Moran is now front-runner for leader of the Lib Dems.

And Lisa Nandy MP saying, when asked whether a male bodied convicted rapist with intact penis should be returned to a female prison if he breached his bail conditions because he now identified as female, that of course he should because "transwomen are women." This was while Nandy was campaigning for leader of the Labour Party.

Then there was Jo Swinson (former MP, lost her seat quite spectacularly in the last election), making a complete cake of herself on women's hour by being entirely unable to say what she thought a woman was - while leader of the Lib Dems. (In fairness, the whole interview was a car crash - she made a complete cake of herself on every single issue. I listened to it thinking "this woman couldn't lead a sewing bee, and she wants us to believe she could lead the country." Also in fairness to her, she would actually be better than Boris Johnson - but that just tells you about Johnson's level of unparalleled incompetence.)

These were all actual real, live, elected MPs, not silly college kids with growing up to do.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/06/2020 08:44

@alittlelower

They are humoring him

They are not humoring him. They have a tribal allegiance to a very particular political view which says that people's self-chosen 'identity' must always be respected, even when plain sense tells you it is not true. And they are expressing that view.

These people are anti-choice, pro-trump, abstinence-only education advocates. If you want to align yourself with them go ahead What you are doing is expressing allegiance to a view which says that if someone has opinions you do not agree with, you must never agree with anything they say or do.

The college students and you are both displaying a similar mindset of placing ideological position over reality.

Could not agree more. At the risk of sounding like an old fogey, forty years ago, when I had the privilege* of staying on at school beyond the leaving age and going on to attend university, education was about learning and thinking. Nobody expected to have their ideas and beliefs unchallenged, or if they did, they were in for a nasty surprise. A university education was prized because it was evidence that someone had been trained to think logically and clearly. What happened?

*Used in the normal dictionary sense of the word - it was a privilege, very few others got it

alittlelower · 24/06/2020 08:50

They said he could take a first grade class..He could take it at a college, with other adults who also identify as children or who have learning difficulties...Stop making shit up for attention

I think this response exemplifies the desperation of people who subscribe to this form of extreme self-identity politics to justify stuff that is just unreasonable.
It is very clear in that video that the premise he is putting to the students is, ' I am a seven year old, if you accept that, do you accept I should be able to go where other seven year olds are, as a seven year old, such as a first grade class?' . He is not saying, 'I am someone who never got an education, or has learning difficulties - what you think I could do about that?'

Nor is he saying, ' I have a disorder who makes me think I am seven even though I am an adult - do you know of any support groups for people like me in the form of a first grade class?'

AnnaBanana333 · 24/06/2020 09:12

@Ijustreallywantacat

Oh just stop it. He is asking ridiculous questions. They are humoring him. These people are anti-choice, pro-trump, abstinence-only education advocates. If you want to align yourself with them go ahead.

Stick to the FWR boards.

Well said.
User56788432567 · 24/06/2020 09:14

@LegallyBlue

Literally not one single person in that video says he should be allowed to enrol in a class with seven year olds. Not one. Watch it again. Not one single person says it. They said he could take a first grade class - nothing about taking it with children. He could take it at a college, with other adults who also identify as children or who have learning difficulties or never received an education for whatever reason. Stop making shit up for attention.
I would take your point except that if you want to justify it by saying he didn’t specifically state with children then none of the others specified only if it was without children either. So without either of them stating this the status quo takes precedence which is that a first grade class is taught in an elementary school with actual children aged 6 or 7 years old.
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