To be so irritated by poor spelling and vocabulary?

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OK, it could be weeks of lockdown having finally got to me, but when I just read two posts with the phrases, ‘couldn’t get passed,’ (meaning ‘past’) and ‘by her own omission,’ (meaning ‘admission’), I felt compelled to start an AIBU. It’s bad enough reading the FB ‘Your doing great’ and ‘I love you’re new dog’ posts. Oh, ‘their’ much worse at spelling on FB...etc. Yes, in these turbulent times, I know I shouldn’t be wasting my energies on such crap, but sometimes focusing on trivia keeps us sane. So, AIBU? Anyone else as irritated as I am?

Cam2020

Let’s see! So you’re brilliant at English language, so are you good at woodwork? How about you make a bench and we can pick holes in the design?

Or maybe you’re brilliant at singing? Could you make a record? How’s your dancing?

Can you not see that ‘education’ isn’t for everyone and is actually quite painful for some as we continue to place square children in round holes?

YANBU.

I was watching Billie and Sam Thingy on TV yesterday (clearly bored) and their grammar is lamentable. Then their mum joined in. She was playing with the children and saying, 'was you...' incessantly. Those kids are going to inherit both the bloody awful accents and the half-witted grasp of basic grammar.

These threads always seem to touch a nerve with people getting very defensive, which is why I added the

Oh YANBU - it really annoys me too! There is a building application that has gone in near us and the council has written to us about it. I went online to have a look and there was one objection (so far) and it was full of spelling mistakes. Curb instead of kerb, neighbors, not neighbours (and yes, I know they are both American spellings, but no one around here is American, and their comments indicate they are one of my very close neighbours), question is, AIBU to put in an objection to their objection on the grounds of spelling and grammar?

What's wrong with "got given"?

It annoys me too -It is everywhere - I read the post with passed instead of past here and the day before on house group on facebook someone was proudly showing off their new herb planters which had Herb's painted on it. arghhh

I think now at schools they are going back to a focus on basic grammar so hopefully things will not get worse!

PS I do have a dyslexic child and some of the spellings he comes up well, they would generate this kind of thread eg Freanch instead of French - he just cannot get certain words right. Over the years I have tried to let obvious spelling mistakes pass me by, but hey its difficult !!!

He would write "I'm going to he's house / his coming round tomorrow". I'm always flabbergasted at how he doesn't know that's incorrect

Because he probably doesn't know many of the other words but they come up as a mistake on the phone/computer. Whereas, his and he's are both correct so wouldn't be picked up.

@cozycat1 it's difficult- if you have such an issue with spellings and correct use of apostrophes .

@Cam2020

I really don't understand why some people just don't get it

Then you have compression issues or completely lack imagination,considering it's been explained over and over again on this thread and many others.

Here are a few reasons:

1.SEND , including long absences from school.
2.Memory issues , which don't necessarily come with a diagnosis or go under GDD . The child/person is capable of learning and using things correctly, but just in the moment. Give them a day and they can't even remember they've learned it ,much less how to do it.
3.Trauma, chaotic home lives, deprivation which can mean limited exposure to written words, examples of correct grammar or support.
4.Having parents that are illiterate themselves for several reasons or that speak/write very limited English.

1. For a child that struggles with English as a subject or their spelling or their handwriting, needing to produce enough work,of a good quality, with good SPAG and handwriting, normally means that some things fall to the side. Those tend to be handwriting and spellings due to speed .

There are obviously other reasons as well , or a combination of the above.

Dyslexia is a completely different issue. It is picked up in primary school, usually.

Special arrangements are made for dyslexic children - and adults - during exams and so on. It is possible to use a computer for exams or have a scribe and extra time is allocated.Most students, unsurprisingly, will opt for typing their responses.

In the past I would have agreed with you OP, but having married one dyslexic and given birth to another, I am now more forgiving. It still boggles my brain slightly sometimes that DH and DS just don't get it, but they are better than me at lots of other things, so I now try to think of it as being part of the rich tapestry of life.

@DieSchottin93
What gave me away?

Dyslexia is a very valid reason why spelling and grammar can be poor.

Also I had to laugh at the use the education you had

Lol in my dps case aged 50 that was nil virtually. Yes he was in school all the time but they never picked up on his dyslexia which was more than likely caused by his teacher forcing him to write with his right hand so much so that the damage was done. He can read but his writing and grammar are terrible..hes bright but will never be a writer

YANBU. My pet hate is aloud instead of allowed. It really grates on me.

But is dyslexia really behind "should of", "chester draws", "affect/effect", "discusting" and so on?

I have just come across so many children (and their parents) with specific learning difficulties, or I have seen adults in tears, about how they were made to feel such a failure in school, because they had dyslexia, that I would never presume to criticise anyone's spelling or grammar!

But is dyslexia really behind "should of", "chester draws", "affect/effect", "discusting" and so on?

Yes, it can be - one adult with dyslexia told me if I could not understand an email from him, to read it out aloud and then see if I could make sense of it!

@SchrodingersImmigrant how did you learn how to spell?

But is dyslexia really behind "should of", "chester draws", "affect/effect", "discusting" and so on?

Why wouldn’t it be? People with dyslexia often spell things the way they sound - these are all examples of that.

God forbid someone may have an opinion and be dyslexic some people spell things as they sound.

Threads like these always make me cringe. I am three years from a TBI. Unfortunately, I still drop words. My brain tells me I have used their, there and they’re correctly until I read my post. I so wish MN had an edit button as my mind sometimes doesn’t read my writing until I’ve actually posted something.

Dyslexia is a completely different issue. It is picked up in primary school, usually

More students are pickup at college or university

Those are the ‘middle’ kids who teachers don’t recognize as dyslexics.

This might be an unpopular view, but I lose a bit of respect for people who don't use correct SPAG.

If there are SEND issues, then it's a bit different. But I really struggle to take someone seriously who cannot spell correctly!

I find this harsh. I hate when someone makes a mistake and loads of people jump on board to correct them. People don’t know, they’re still learning and it’s not their fault they don’t know. Also, language evolves and changes all the time, it’s what makes it amazing. New words come, old ones change and that includes phrases and spellings.

Loose and lose is one of the ones I spot the most, is it frustrating? I guess so, but that’s only because I know how to use both words correctly. I don’t judge people for not having that as part of their education though, it’s not deliberate that people don’t know, they aren’t going ‘sod it, I’m not going to bother’, so to judge and get cross is am quite arrogant, really.

Unless you’re perfect at absolutely everything, you can’t really judge someone else’s lack of education?

Friday that says more about your limitations than theirs.