To be feed up with school telling me what to do and how to do it?

[ivykaty44]

Had a letter home from my dd's school last week telling me that they would be sending a booklet home telling me what I should be giving my dd for her packed lunch. I do know how to make a healthy pack lunch, including three portions of fruit each day in the pack lunch.

This week they send me a letter telling me that it is tantamount to being a criminal if I so much as dare to even think about taking my dd out of school during term time - I havn't even asked (standard letter to take home)and my child may be excluded from school if I go on holiday in term time.

The letter really does seem to have this attitude of "we have the power to make you" and I really don't like it I am not a child, I can look after my dd and give her healthy food and take her on holiday during school closures. I just want them to leave me alone and get on with teaching my dd........ rant over

Ah, he we see the usual rudeness from the good old supportive mumsnetter-NorthernRockCod.

I pay tax and Schools are funded by MY tax.I adhere to rules and regulations and have done all my life, I have towed the line.

Sometimes you use your own discression, i have my OWN will. I also asked the school for permission because thats what one does in society and they granted leave for my children.

What was the big deal in asking the teacher for the work?My intention was for ME to do the work with them.

If that's how you operate getting annoyed with me a complete stranger how very rude, think before you speak. You come across as intollerant and inflexible, from your reply, you find it difficult to think outside the box?

I would not be so rude to ANYONE even if I did not agree with them.

I am not upset by you, just disbelief

Q.Why on earth should a teacher have to go out of their way to give you work your children could have done in school?

A.Because we were on holiday.The teachers care about educating the child.

Q.why didn't you go to the Eden Project on one of the days between July 25th and Sept 4th?

A. Because I could not afford a holiday in summer hols, I paid 40 pounds for me n 2 kids for week in luxury caravan via tokens collected thro the local rag.

eg; man falls from rocks climbing, injures himself, flown to hospital. Do we give him ear bashing right good telling off and refuse to treat his injuries?

No, you're right. That's exactly the same ...

I don't set work for children if their parents take them out of school for a holiday. The parents choice, they can help the child catch up.

I've lost count of the number of times I've set work and not had it done. Parents right to take take them out, parents responsibility to get them to catch up

I do set work if a child is ill. That is a total;y different issue

Sobernow, I know what your saying.

Looking at it rationally,the authorised absence tends to be staggered not everyone off at the same time so I don't think the teacher would be inundated with requests for missed work- that would be co-incidence if that happened but yes a good point to make but again I'm looking at it rationally.

After working in a school I know how busy teachers are, but they are not little gods you know, they are people, they can say no

Really!!!

you'd be surprised. I've had a child ask me to give up my lunch break to teach him a lesson he missed to go to a gig.

I told him no.

So, what's the line for children who have family in a forein land and it's not practical to go during breaks? For example, I'm American and would like my kids to spend Thanksgiving in the states some years, or maybe the 4th of July. So, would the school say no if I take them out for a few days? A week? I'm guessing they would I won't be able to do this. Or maybe I'll call in sick for the both of them for a week.

Yeah I agree that they would prefer to teach in the hours they are paid but life is not all smooth running,it's about give and take.

I have volunteered loads of times in sch n helped out and lots and lots of people volunteer at my sch the teachers are appreciated and helped, fgs lets just not get fixated on the homework thing ladies chill out.

If I am missing from school it is my responsibility to set cover work, mark ir and check understanding

If the parent has the right to take them out of school they have the responsibility to get the child catch up work.

What do you mean by "catch up work"? Is not just hey youmissed chapter 4 of text book x, read it and do the homework at the back, which is questions 1-20 and hand it to me by Friday? Or do you mean sit down and teach them the lesson?

What are the "discretionary 10 days"?

I wonder how many people would be annoyed and complaining if a tecaher took time off to go on holiday during term time?

The difficulty is that you seldom teach a lesson, 'Read XYZ' andswer questions ABC.

Yuo spend time explaining, they do group work, etc etc. It is all*far8 more complicated than in the golden days for teachers when we were young ones

So when you get asked to do this sort of thing, you have to go and sort out 'stand alone' materials and questions, source them, photocopy them , take them in and mark them. Or more often, take them in and find that they haven't been done.

And I can't say 'read such and such, as we don't have enough books for the kids to have a text book to work from at home! (except at the sixth form level. and this is the first year that it is true for all the sixth form)

'Pander', I asked for the work lol, it's the way you guys get really emotional and really twist the words.

Honestly, take a step back a minute, are you all really really really annoyed by me asking for the work

After working in a sch, I know how busy they are, me asking by letter for missed work, so not hindering teacher at door.

FGS please, got to go now friend come round, she's off to sri lanka again with kids for 2 weeks!!Cheeky really, only just got back after travelling for a year te he.

I have only read the OP so far and I'm nodding so vigorously in agreement that I thought I'd respond. This sort of attitude makes me want to home educate. It gets my back up something chronic.

I will join your campaign ivykaty.

I will now read the thread.

But why should the teacher have to put in extra effort to cover work that she has done before because you choose to take your children out of school?

You have a right to take them out, it is your responsibility to see they catch up, not the teacher's.

School is an institution and institutions need rules and regulations to function. It is good preparation for later life if, even if you don't entirely agree with the rules of the school, you teach your children to abide by them - even if you also, gently, offer them some constructive criticism of those rules and open their eyes to alternative ways of thinking.

martianbishop - you have the patience of a saint . All that practice at school, I suppose