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Annoyed your kid isn’t having zoom lessons or school contact or not going back to school yet?

53 replies

noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 15:48

Some kids are having zoom lessons (parking to one side whether this is the gold standard) and they have the tech to access this

Some kids are having weekly phone contact

Some kids are having differentiated work set remotely

Some kids are having paper work packs hand delivered

Some kids are having a few links sent out at the start of the week

Some kids are getting feedback

Some kids are getting no feedback

Some kids are back in school

Some kids aren’t back in school

Some kids aren’t allowed back in school even though they are in a year group that should be back in school

Some year groups are prioritised

Some year groups have been effectively abandoned

Some kids are vulnerable and not getting the support they need

Some kids have SEN and are not getting the support they need.

It’s terrible that education provision is so patchy. That some pupils are getting far more input and support than others. Parents are right to be furious if theirs is one of the have-nots. They have the right to look at what other kids are getting and be worried that their kid is missing out.

But

This is not unique to lockdown. Do not think, for one second, that things will be fair when kids return to school. Do not think, for one second, that things were fair before lockdown. Underfunding, lack of resources, lack of qualified staff affecting quality of education (despite schools’ and teachers’ best efforts) have been an issue for years.

Some kids had qualified teachers. Some kids had a string of unqualified supply teachers. Some kids were in well-resourced brand new school buildings. Some were in dilapidated pre-fab huts. Some had excellent pastoral support. Some had none. Some had access to opportunities. Some had very little in the way of extras.

And on top of it all, the DfE are a useless bunch who have lied that everything is fine while the system slowly crashes to the ground, desperately propped up by the hard work of the increasingly fewer numbers of dedicated staff who haven’t yet burned out.

This inequality is clearly unacceptable, however it may not have been clear to parents up till now just how bad things are. They may have laboured under the illusion that their children were not affected.

How has it come to this? Gove’s academisation program, making schools into independent private concerns, pitting them against each other instead of encouraging collaboration. League tables. Ofsted ratings. The illusion of parental choice. The mass exodus of teaching staff. Every school has been expected to do its own thing, and now they are doing their own thing, we cannot do what other countries have done and centralise education efforts. Because of lack of funding and central control, the government cannot mandate that schools do anything in a uniform fashion. How can they say children should have video lessons when the tech isn’t there? How can they say that children should make use of centralised lessons from Oak Academy when every school is following their own curriculum?

If you are frustrated regarding the DfE’s announcements of primary kids going back, not going back, Y10 and 12 going back but actually not going back to lessons although some are - they are ALWAYS this incompetent. You’re only now seeing it, but apply that to the last ten years and you might get some idea of the scale of frustration of people who work in education.

If you are pissed off now, you should be. Maintain that anger when schools are back. They need your support because they are struggling in a broken system. Direct it to the right place.

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ChloeDecker · 17/06/2020 15:57

Great to see you back noblegiraffe.
Completely agree with every single point.

GuyFawkesDay · 17/06/2020 15:58

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Pussycatinboots · 17/06/2020 16:07

Well said @noblegiraffe

GinDrinker00 · 17/06/2020 16:10

Yay well said. 🙌🏻

Effup · 17/06/2020 16:12

I think we will go Private but I'm embarrassed to admit it

Appuskidu · 17/06/2020 16:14

Completely agree with everything you said.

Parents should be angry about this-but not with teachers.

Grasspigeons · 17/06/2020 16:18

Good points.
We had a terrible time due to the SEND funding crisis. It really opened my eyes to how underfunded the whole system is and how varied it is and being honest how unaccountable it can be.

snappycamper · 17/06/2020 16:18

Completely agree OP. I've just this afternoon had a reply from my (Tory) MP regarding my email on this absolute shitshow. He's blamed schools, local authorities and the teaching unions. It's definitely not the government's fault, how could it be when it's nothing to do with them??

WhyNotMe40 · 17/06/2020 16:22

Absolutely spot on, and fantastic to see you back Flowers

lewes2 · 17/06/2020 16:24

@Effup don't be embarrassed. I've taught in the state sector for 20+ years (and agree with everything noblegiraffe said) but my children went private from Y5 onwards and it was the best thing I've ever done for them. Their primary schools weren't meeting their needs, they both flourished at independent schools who were able to go the extra mile, teach them in small classes, offer them the sport and music that they wanted, and during the lockdown, they have provided a full timetable of lessons plus tutorials for my ds in the 6th form including online assemblies, mental health input, extra curricular activities etc etc. I couldn't fault it. Yes we're in an incredibly lucky situation to be able to afford it (a combined effort of parents and both sets of grandparents) but I make no apology for it and if you can do it for your dc, I would do.

WarmthAndDepth · 17/06/2020 16:24

Yep, every word of it.

victoriashleigh · 17/06/2020 16:25

I agree with @Appuskidu it’s a very fair point but please don’t direct anger towards teachers, we are doing the absolute best we can. Also, the majority supply teachers aren’t unqualified, most of them are fabulous fully qualified teachers - myself included (BA Hons in Early Primary Education, QTS, 10 years experience) but my fiancé is a freelancer and we like flexibility and holidays during term time so I supply and meet lots of other supply teachers.

noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 16:35

Absolutely don’t mean to denigrate supply teachers, plenty are excellent. But I think even the best supply teachers would agree that those classes who have a string of supply teachers because the school cannot hire/retain permanent staff are not getting a good deal.

The shortage of qualified teachers is at crisis point in many areas and subjects. God knows how bad the shortage of head teachers will be after this all, they’ve been put through hell.

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Mostpeculiar · 17/06/2020 16:51

Hope every parent reads this thank you

lazylinguist · 17/06/2020 16:57

Excellent post, noblegiraffe. I hope lots of parents read it.

Lancrelady80 · 17/06/2020 17:07

Totally agree, well said!

NellePorter · 17/06/2020 17:30

As a governor, I agree with all of your opening post, and also your comment about heads. Many heads and deputies I know are close to breaking point.

StripyHorse · 17/06/2020 17:33

I agree except the point about supply teachers being qualified. Supply Teachers (rather than cover supervisors) should be qualified.

I do agree though that a constant change of teacher (no matter how good they are) is no ideal as they don't know the children as well to plan to meet their needs / stretch the most able / meet pastoral needs of the pupils if they are just there for a short time.

mintandcoral · 17/06/2020 17:45

So well put. Let's start funding education properly and giving it the respect it deserves!

TeenPlusTwenties · 17/06/2020 17:48

Welcome back noblegiraffe I was just wondering about you earlier today.

Tanaqui · 17/06/2020 17:49

@noblegiraffe so so happy to see you back! You are (as usual!) 100% correct.

WillowSummerSloth · 17/06/2020 17:51

You're so right! I'm a worried parent and feel very frustrated at the lack of provision. Your post sums up how both sides are feeling and how awful the situation is for some kids.

cardibach · 17/06/2020 17:53

@noblegiraffe ’unqualified supply teachers’ gives entirely the wrong impression. Supply teachers are qualified and often very experienced. It’s a very difficult job and many do it incredibly well. It won’t be made easier by people like you, who do know what you are talking about, suggesting they are unqualified.

keiratwiceknightly · 17/06/2020 17:54

Applause!!

Echobelly · 17/06/2020 17:56

I hadn't thought about the problem of lack of centralisation here - I have to say, I don't know what other countries have been doing, have they actually been able to apply more consistent approach from all schools?

But at any rate it's true that it can't help that every school is doing it's own thing and there can't be guidance that applies to everyone because what they are doing can be so different from one setting to another.