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Annoyed your kid isn’t having zoom lessons or school contact or not going back to school yet?

53 replies

noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 15:48

Some kids are having zoom lessons (parking to one side whether this is the gold standard) and they have the tech to access this

Some kids are having weekly phone contact

Some kids are having differentiated work set remotely

Some kids are having paper work packs hand delivered

Some kids are having a few links sent out at the start of the week

Some kids are getting feedback

Some kids are getting no feedback

Some kids are back in school

Some kids aren’t back in school

Some kids aren’t allowed back in school even though they are in a year group that should be back in school

Some year groups are prioritised

Some year groups have been effectively abandoned

Some kids are vulnerable and not getting the support they need

Some kids have SEN and are not getting the support they need.

It’s terrible that education provision is so patchy. That some pupils are getting far more input and support than others. Parents are right to be furious if theirs is one of the have-nots. They have the right to look at what other kids are getting and be worried that their kid is missing out.

But

This is not unique to lockdown. Do not think, for one second, that things will be fair when kids return to school. Do not think, for one second, that things were fair before lockdown. Underfunding, lack of resources, lack of qualified staff affecting quality of education (despite schools’ and teachers’ best efforts) have been an issue for years.

Some kids had qualified teachers. Some kids had a string of unqualified supply teachers. Some kids were in well-resourced brand new school buildings. Some were in dilapidated pre-fab huts. Some had excellent pastoral support. Some had none. Some had access to opportunities. Some had very little in the way of extras.

And on top of it all, the DfE are a useless bunch who have lied that everything is fine while the system slowly crashes to the ground, desperately propped up by the hard work of the increasingly fewer numbers of dedicated staff who haven’t yet burned out.

This inequality is clearly unacceptable, however it may not have been clear to parents up till now just how bad things are. They may have laboured under the illusion that their children were not affected.

How has it come to this? Gove’s academisation program, making schools into independent private concerns, pitting them against each other instead of encouraging collaboration. League tables. Ofsted ratings. The illusion of parental choice. The mass exodus of teaching staff. Every school has been expected to do its own thing, and now they are doing their own thing, we cannot do what other countries have done and centralise education efforts. Because of lack of funding and central control, the government cannot mandate that schools do anything in a uniform fashion. How can they say children should have video lessons when the tech isn’t there? How can they say that children should make use of centralised lessons from Oak Academy when every school is following their own curriculum?

If you are frustrated regarding the DfE’s announcements of primary kids going back, not going back, Y10 and 12 going back but actually not going back to lessons although some are - they are ALWAYS this incompetent. You’re only now seeing it, but apply that to the last ten years and you might get some idea of the scale of frustration of people who work in education.

If you are pissed off now, you should be. Maintain that anger when schools are back. They need your support because they are struggling in a broken system. Direct it to the right place.

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noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 17:59

Amend my OP to say ‘unqualified and/or supply teachers.’.

Even permanent teachers don’t have to be qualified.

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noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 18:11

Good to see familiar names! I am feeling way more zen for having had a break. Not sure how long that will last!

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Tamalpais · 17/06/2020 18:12

100% agree. Well said.

They have essentially decentralized and semi-privatized education. It's not as bad here as it is/was in the States but I see it heading there.

WhenSheWasBad · 17/06/2020 18:16

Such a great post. Totally agree.

slothbucket · 17/06/2020 18:28

Excellent post.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 17/06/2020 18:36

What an amazing post!

I’ve just phoned every individual in my Y10 class. I cried at the end. Where are the laptops promised by this shower of shite?

They are trying to do the work, but can’t access it. 💔

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 17/06/2020 18:39

I think that post needs to be shared to the nation.

Just not sure how

elephantoverthehill · 17/06/2020 18:44

Oh, the promised laptops. How many weeks now?

macaronilemonpony · 17/06/2020 18:46

I am, but if you have head teacher determined to do as little as possible under the guise of safeguarding then what can you do?

Sayitaintsoiwillnotgo · 17/06/2020 18:48

Amazing post. Thank you for articulating everything I feel after 10+ years teaching in an ever changing goal post position profession. Star

bestthingsinceslicedbread · 17/06/2020 18:57

Excellent post. Thank you @noblegiraffe👏👏👏

Katjolo · 17/06/2020 19:00

Excellent post

BlessYourCottonSocks · 17/06/2020 19:01

Excellent post. Accurate and explains extremely well the anger and frustration that many of us in education feel.

Welcome back.

myself2020 · 17/06/2020 19:30

Finally the penny drops for most people. Previously it was SENDs kids where parents had to choose between spending a fortune, or denying their kids an education. Now its suddenly everyone.
So hopefully something changes now.

ProseccoBubbleFantasies · 17/06/2020 19:41

Best OP ever noblegiraffe.

Sadly, given the comments above, I think the only people reading this are people who work in or understand schools. None of the teacher bashers seem to be here

noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 20:53

Well some people seem to have voted that I’m unreasonable but aren’t articulating why. Hmm

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LaureBerthaud · 28/06/2020 19:37

I don't work in a school but I am aware of all of the above.
What do you want parents to do about it? I've never voted Tory and thought academies were a lousy idea but our HT said Labour supported them too.
I send a clean, well fed, well rested, eager to learn teen into school every day (when they were open!) and buy all the textbooks. What else?

Cookiecrisps · 28/06/2020 20:27

Excellent post OP. Totally agree with the points you have made.

GravityFalls · 28/06/2020 20:41

I know that many supply teachers are qualified - I’ve done supply myself BUT I was in demand precisely because I was qualified and experienced. I could have had term+ length contracts from the first day if I’d wanted. I’ve worked with supply teachers without QTS teaching A-level. Not a terrible inner city school, a leafy market town. Because they were all we could get. And my college routinely uses people without QTS although they then tend to do their PGCE on the job. So kids with qualified, consistent supply are really the lucky ones. In my experience those supply teachers have “their” schools and quite rightly stick with them. If your kids go to one of the “bad” schools (and you won’t necessarily know of they do because it’s not correlated with results or OFSTED grading), they’ll get the poorest supply teachers. If you’ve worked in one of those schools you’ll know what I mean!

Iggly · 28/06/2020 20:43

I agree.

And the thing that pisses me off is how easily people are duped into directing their anger towards the wrong place.

They blame the teachers when it’s this cluster fuck of a government’s doing.

BertieBob · 28/06/2020 20:44

Yep. I've seen my profession degrade so much over the last decade. Despite many amazing teachers trying their best.

Playdoughbum · 28/06/2020 20:48

Completely agree.
And the anger against schools and teachers will make it even worse as more will leave.
The funding situation is appalling, particularly for children with additional needs.

Graunaile2017 · 28/06/2020 21:16

Some parents have been fantastic and have done everything they could to work with us.
Some parents gave up straight way, they didn't contact us to tell us that they had no internet, or that they had no laptops or that children were sharing laptops.
We discovered that contact details were not updated when they should have been by parents- what would have happened in an emergency?
Some parents sat there and waited until the school contacted them
Some parents don't answer the phone or reply to emails or acknowledge texts saying that their child is falling behind and asking what I can do to help
They have had texts from tutors and subject teachers
Yeah, some teachers have not covered them selves in glory, but it's not a one way street

Some parents have let their children down, by allowing them to disengage from eduction
Yes, parents are busy , but if education was important to you ,you would find the time and the energy to make sure that something got done.
Some parents were proactive and bought revision books online until they could get printed packs from us, some parents were totally passive and did nothing to help their kids.

There will be children who are behind in Sept
There are some who may well become school refusers because they hated school in the first place and are now probably practically feral, getting them to toe the line behaviour wise is going to be interesting.
There will be children who have loved online independent guided learning and will be happy to say home and continue.
They have experienced what real focused education is like without the dickheads playing up.
Teacher who have done online live lessons have also seen what it is to teach without all that behaviour management and the stress that comes with it.
Back to normal may take some time and not be as easy as we think.

KaptainKaveman · 05/07/2020 15:19

100% agree with the OP.

Abbazed · 05/07/2020 22:32

I also want to go Private. I went to two exceptional state schools but I want so much more for my children.