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Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?

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Sunkisses · 16/06/2020 08:02

Is it OK for ASDA to send parents emails linking to an organisation that normalises paedophilia with red flag phrases such as "love has no age", and recommending books for children that contain explicit descriptions of child sex abuse? Why are they doing this? Are ASDA experts in home schooling and safeguarding? More details in this excellent thread by Safe Schools Alliance: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1272638132589035520

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Mummyoflittledragon · 16/06/2020 20:53

@aNiceBigCupOfFuCoffee
Flowers I do hope you get a response beyond the generic generated crap.

Itisbetter · 16/06/2020 20:59

I honestly can’t believe what I’m reading

Roseburn · 16/06/2020 21:05

aNiceBigCupOfFuCoffee
Flowers Flowers Flowers

dobbleby · 16/06/2020 21:06

doesn't this prove JKs point

TheVoiceOfReasonableness · 16/06/2020 21:12

Shan’t be shopping there.

This is a slippery slope.

Remember, the group that is now known as Liberty backed the Paedophile Information Exchange pressure group in the 1970s when there was an effort by child abusers to become recognised as a legitimate sexual orientation on the back of gay liberation.

If in 10 years time we are expected to “understand” and “recognise” such “Minor Attracted Persons” that’s the point at which I scream “stop the world! I want to get off!”

Michelleoftheresistance · 16/06/2020 21:19

aNiceBigCupOfFuCoffee Flowers

That is why it matters. That. Not letting that happen to other people.

Butteredtoast55 · 16/06/2020 21:19

Dear God, I miss the days when the sole purpose of a supermarket was to sell food and not try to police people's lives. FFS.

DannyGlickWindowTapping · 16/06/2020 21:27

I can't understand why this isn't bigger news. I've searched online, and it's only here and on Twitter that I can find it!

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 21:36

and anyone that I know...

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 16/06/2020 21:36

@DannyGlickWindowTapping

I can't understand why this isn't bigger news. I've searched online, and it's only here and on Twitter that I can find it!
Give it a couple of days, any tabloids will want their lawyers all over it before it publishes.

It took ages for the wanky rubber NSPCC man to hit the news. Well, except for Pink News who tried to fob it off as a story of middle aged women persecuting a gay man (for the record, we didn’t care whether he was gay or straight, wanking and pissing yourself for a porn site while you are at work at a CHILDREN’S CHARITY was the bit we had a problem with).

BojoKilledMyMojo · 16/06/2020 21:37

Haven't read the full thread. Not really sure why Asda are releasing such a pack but there we go. There's a video which accompanies it, and the love has no age limits refers to an elderly couple in the video.
I think the dice game is very healthy for secondary school children to play, as whether people like it or not, they are exposed to porn at increasingly young ages, and it's better to have a mature, sensible, fact led discussion than they all think what the see, and hear about, from porn is the norm.

I don't see anything inherently wrong with the book either. If kids don't see from a child's perspective just how easily they were groomed, how are they supposed to make informed healthy decisions?

FOJN · 16/06/2020 21:42

DannyGlickWindowTapping

It diversity and inclusivity education so touches on trans issues. You might think the media has reported the issue to death but in actual fact they have barely scratched the surface. There is a fear driven conspiracy of silence around some issues and there have been large numbers of women (and some men) who have had their accounts blocked or delete on Twitter for speaking out about safeguarding, twitter seems to tolerate MAP accounts.

frostedviolets · 16/06/2020 21:47

I think the dice game is very healthy for secondary school children to play, as whether people like it or not, they are exposed to porn at increasingly young ages, and it's better to have a mature, sensible, fact led discussion than they all think what the see, and hear about, from porn is the norm

Hmm

You don’t think that maybe a brief discussion about how porn is acting and not real and often shows themes that are unacceptable in modern day society like incest and violence would perhaps be more sensible?

Maybe with a brief discussion about consent and that not all of the performers may be there willingly and that some of the practices commonly featured, like anal sex, can sometimes cause health issues like prolapse?

Sandybval · 16/06/2020 21:51

@BojoKilledMyMojo are you from Asda to try and convince everyone that there's nothing wrong with what they shared? If you think that dice game is suitable for teens in a school environment (remembering classes compromise pupils of different dispositions, who have had different experiences etc) then that's ridiculous. It's wholly inappropriate, as a PP has mentioned, discussing the ethics of porn is perhaps not out of the realm of reasonable.

TheSingingKettle49 · 16/06/2020 21:54

I think the dice game is very healthy for secondary school children to play, as whether people like it or not, they are exposed to porn at increasingly young ages, and it's better to have a mature, sensible, fact led discussion than they all think what the see, and hear about, from porn is the norm

In what world? I wouldn’t play that as a 30 something adult. It’s undignified and humiliating to discuss what objects you might stuff into which orifice amongst a group of people who you are not intimate with.

Secondary school children should be discussing consent, boundaries, how to use contraception and keeping safe from unwanted pregnancy and STIs. The actual mechanics of how to have sex can be learned ‘on the job’ so to speak.

justanotherneighinparadise · 16/06/2020 21:54

@frostedviolets

I think the dice game is very healthy for secondary school children to play, as whether people like it or not, they are exposed to porn at increasingly young ages, and it's better to have a mature, sensible, fact led discussion than they all think what the see, and hear about, from porn is the norm Hmm

You don’t think that maybe a brief discussion about how porn is acting and not real and often shows themes that are unacceptable in modern day society like incest and violence would perhaps be more sensible?

Maybe with a brief discussion about consent and that not all of the performers may be there willingly and that some of the practices commonly featured, like anal sex, can sometimes cause health issues like prolapse?

But that’s far too sensible frosted. We have to be down with the kids nowadays and throw dice with anal sex on it and explain it’s all very natural and if it hurts a bit you can always add lube. Then we can all have a spirited conversation about fisting and glory holes and be home for 4.30pm
aNiceBigCupOfFuCoffee · 16/06/2020 21:57

@Mummyoflittledragon @Michelleoftheresistance @Roseburn thank you Flowers I'm not usually one for speaking up but I owed it to that scared, ashamed 6 year old girl. It took me a long time to realise it's not me who should be ashamed and if I can help even one other person, it's worth it.

Itisbetter · 16/06/2020 22:00

I think the dice game is very healthy for secondary school children to play, as whether people like it or not, they are exposed to porn at increasingly young ages, and it's better to have a mature, sensible, fact led discussion than they all think what the see, and hear about, from porn is the norm. IN WHAT UNIVERSE ShockAngry. If I discovered anyone had discussed porn with my children in that manner I would be outraged —and probably remove them from school— I have a duty of care to stop my child from being exposed to pornography. How is it ok for it to be in school.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/06/2020 22:02

I think the dice game is very healthy for secondary school children to play

Sure Hmm

Roseburn · 16/06/2020 22:06

BojoKilledMyMojo

righty-ho.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 16/06/2020 22:09

You say potato, I say Cheese and Potato PIE

Are they totally blind to the implications and history.

Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?
JemimaShore · 16/06/2020 22:13

I think the dice game is very healthy for secondary school children to play

Please tell me you're joking. Teaching 13yr olds about anus/objects in sex. It's grooming. Plus there's nothing about boundaries in there - consent - which is particularly important for girls. - and boys!

I'm all for sexual freedom between consenting adults - but grooming young girls into anal and "objects" - just no. Enthusiastic consent needs to be discussed first.

Online porn needs to be discussed honestly by ADULTS first - so much is incredibly damaging and violent. Lets tackle that rather than grooming our young teens.

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2020 22:15

We can all learn far more about grooming from Anna Salter's book ''Predators'' than from being cool with porn or the dice game.

''What motivates sexual abusers? Why are so few caught? Anna C. Salter shows that sexual predators use sophisticated deception techniques and rely on misconceptions surrounding them to evade discovery.
Arguing that even the most knowledgeable among us can be fooled, Salter dispels the myths about sexual predators and gives us the tools to protect our families and ourselves.''
www.amazon.co.uk/Predators-Pedophiles-Rapists-Other-Offenders/dp/0465071732?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

Whataloadofshite · 16/06/2020 22:17

Oh it's another trans and LGB hate thread, of course it is.

AlltheLemurs · 16/06/2020 22:19

This is awful. The extract about the 6 year old giving oral sex is not suitable for children of any age to read. As a former teacher I can’t imagine any of my colleagues playing that dice game.

Anyone who thinks this is ok and to disagree is homophobic take a look at yourself. If you think gay people are pedophiles you are the homophobic one.

They could have taught this in an age appropriate way. Some people have two mums etc.

I fully agree about the love stuff. As someone who has been abused and told it was love this is not something that should be pushed.

Very striking that there doesn’t seem to be any focus on positive relationships and respect. I haven’t read the whole thing but I don’t have enough brain bleach.

Is promoting child abuse legal?