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Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?

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Sunkisses · 16/06/2020 08:02

Is it OK for ASDA to send parents emails linking to an organisation that normalises paedophilia with red flag phrases such as "love has no age", and recommending books for children that contain explicit descriptions of child sex abuse? Why are they doing this? Are ASDA experts in home schooling and safeguarding? More details in this excellent thread by Safe Schools Alliance: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1272638132589035520

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GingerBeverage · 16/06/2020 11:26

Asda is owned by Walmart.

Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?
Labradoodlesnoodles · 16/06/2020 11:26

I'm glad this has been picked up and acted on. I'm pushing my case from when I was 13-14 and was abused by a man who was early 30s, his defence is that I looked older and had an older mind and so he didn't realise I didnt want it (it happened numerous times in my school uniform and was clear there was no consent!). Love has no age was something I told myself at the time to make it feel better, to convince myself he loved me, even though I felt nothing but hurt, anger and betrayal. This should not be anywhere near kids... secondary school kids are still kids and are not mature enough to deal with this when there are adults in the world who behave like monsters!

Clymene · 16/06/2020 11:27

On page 9 of the Primary School guide, it says: "Look up the definition of family and discuss. The Google dictionary definition is:

Family (noun)
1. a group consisting of two parents and their children living together as a unit

Obviously that's not the only definition of family and children are encouraged to think about other kinds of family structure - all good. The only thing is that if you type 'family' into Google, that definition doesn't actually come up.

Funny, that.

Weirdly, my children understand that families come in all shapes and sizes - like most people, we know blended families, mixed race families, adoptive families, lesbian families and single parent families.

They have managed to grow up understanding that without having to have it rammed down their throat with saccharine little songs about Pride being for everyone (yes - even you, pup play fans!)

cheeseismydownfall · 16/06/2020 11:31

I've emailed him too. This is what I wrote - I was so cross I wrote quite quickly so I'm certainly not holding it up as a model, but in case it is helpful for anyone who is stuck.

*I am writing to express my extreme concern in your home learning packs and the significant safeguarding concerns relating to the messages contained in them.

It is extremely disappointing to see yet another retailer attempt to gain equality kudos by jumping on an agenda on which it has no authority to speak, and which is actually hugely alienating to the vast majority of women and girls in this country who are waking up to the dismantling of their sex-based rights by an extreme minority, and the sexualisation of children by forcing this content into the classrooms.

For context, I am a university educated, liberal, mother of three primary and secondary aged children. I support freedom of expression and believe that everyone should have the right to live their lives free from harassment and discrimination. But as a woman, I have my line in the sand, and I will not accept this wrong-thinking.*

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 11:35

"Look up the definition of family and discuss" now, I was a small child in the early 70s. I distinctly remember a book in the class library called something like 'Dave has 2 dads' (as in 2 gay dads rather than a stepdad). Why are we still having this convo almost 50 years later?

In my day there was one kid in my class whose mum had never married the dad (dad not in the picture) - that's how 'dark ages' it was.

Ninkanink · 16/06/2020 11:35

A resource thread that illustrates wider ramifications and sets out why this agenda must be stopped dead in its tracks. This has already happened. It’s already here.

Be warned! It is highly disturbing and will be legitimately triggering for some. Definitely NSFW.

NiveaSunday · 16/06/2020 11:36

Ordinary secondary school children reading the Magenta text and then feeling inspired and justified to experiment with abusing their 6 year old sibling, same sex or otherwise. After all, they love each other, right?

Secondary school children who have experienced abuse by a relative reading the Magenta text and doubting their own judgement, blaming themselves for what happened and not seeking help.After all, it's all about love, right?

Has this hit mainstream media yet? Have Asda responded publicly?

Wiltinglillies · 16/06/2020 11:38

It does say that on Google re family. I agree that it should be challenged.
(Still very concerned by lots of the content, esp the age stuff)

Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?
Wiltinglillies · 16/06/2020 11:39

@NiveaSunday that's a horrific but entirely possible idea.

ChickenonaMug · 16/06/2020 11:42

I would recommend anyone concerned about that phrase watches the video for context. It has put my mind at ease.

The phrase ‘love has no age limit’ also needs to be understood in the context of what is happening in many children’s lives though.

As a child, I was groomed and subjected to sexual abuse for many years. My abuser, who was a much older adult male relative, often used the word ‘love’ to tell me that what he was doing was fine - but misunderstood by others so it should remain a secret. I am not going to say the sorts of things that he specifically said but certainly stuff that would fit with that phrase. Teaching children that ‘love has no age limits’ helps predators groom children and may prevent children from feeling able to speak up about abuse. This horrifies me and I know that it is far from the only example of similar phrases being taught to children in schools. Now a supermarket has involved themselves in sending damaging material into children’s homes.

As for the extract from the Beyond Magenta book - there really are no words to describe the damage and confusion that could cause to a child who has been subject to sexual abuse who desperately trying to understand what has happened to them.

Notjustamum10 · 16/06/2020 11:43

@StayinginSummer

I don't see the link between acceptance of same sex families and parental child abuse. Unfortunately child abuse takes many forms, and of course vulnerable children should be protected from that. However many children from non-conventional families are also vulnerable to bullying and playground taunts from their peers, which I believe children should be educated against. The reading list in the Primary School pack seems to me to be sensible and age appropriate.

sashh · 16/06/2020 11:44

Dear safe guarding team.

I have been made aware the enclosed documents are being distributed to school children, I am particularly bothered that the pack for primary children includes the phrase "Love has no age limit" and that for the teenagers there is a recommendation to read a book that includes sex scenes between an adult and a 6 year old.

As you are the expert on safeguarding could you please advise me how (if appropriate) I should discuss this with my child

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 16/06/2020 11:46

Fucking hell Asda!

Where is your due diligence?

Do people not realise that ‘safeguarding’ isn’t a buzzword, but a legal framework?

Ninkanink · 16/06/2020 11:48

It’s almost as if people don’t realise how predatory behaviour, grooming of children and teenagers and resultant actual, real, deeply damaging sexual abuse (and other related types of abuse) actually happens.

TheThirdPigWasTooClever · 16/06/2020 11:49

My young children know some families have 2 mummies, 2 daddies, a mummy and a daddy or 1mummy or 1 daddy.
Teach young children families can look different? Absolutely. That sets down a foundation of understanding and acceptance as they grow. But this is large-scale mass grooming. Quite simple,
I can’t even fully articulate my horror at this, it’s so inappropriate.

rosiethehen · 16/06/2020 11:53

Looks like there are some very suspect people working for Asda. This is infiltration and designed to plant seeds to normalise paedophilia within society. People laughed at me when I warned about this on here a few years ago.

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 11:54

I think my son assumes that everyone has gay aunties and cousins. He knows a lot of families with one parent, step-parents/siblings etc.

He has eyes in his head... He also knows about 'dodgy adults who abuse children' and what grooming is. That was my job - not a seller of potatoes and socks.

onlywomennotmen · 16/06/2020 11:54

Worth emailing Walmart too:

CEO Doug McMillon

Additional contact info for Walmart Executive Office: [email protected]

Walmart Executive Escalations:[email protected]

Primary Contact
Dacona Smith
Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Walmart U.S.
702 SW 8th St
Bentonville, AR 72716
[email protected]

Secondary Contact
Janey Whiteside
Executive Vice President and Chief Customer Officer, Walmart U.S.
702 SW 8th St
Bentonville, AR 72716
[email protected]

StayinginSummer · 16/06/2020 11:55

[quote Notjustamum10]@StayinginSummer

I don't see the link between acceptance of same sex families and parental child abuse. Unfortunately child abuse takes many forms, and of course vulnerable children should be protected from that. However many children from non-conventional families are also vulnerable to bullying and playground taunts from their peers, which I believe children should be educated against. The reading list in the Primary School pack seems to me to be sensible and age appropriate.[/quote]
I’m not saying that. I’m saying that it is possible if you bundle up a ‘love is always okay’ message particularly with pushing images and awareness of same sex relationships, without any discussion on boundaries and that love is not always okay, then surely this makes a kid in an abusive relationship vulnerable? And if they pick up strongly that it is not okay to speak out against same sex love if it feels wrong, then that area may be especially vulnerable?

I don’t know. Honestly I’m not a safeguarding expert.

It feels to me that acknowledging and respecting difference, including same sex, transgender, is a better way? It’s respect. The love is always okay message does not sit well with me. I’ve very close family members who were abused as children in the name of love. They kept quiet because of their love for the abuser. And their abuser used love to tell them that all love was okay. Maybe it’s a bit of a trigger for me but that is their painful and sad experiences of abuse. That it was tied up with love.

Notredamn · 16/06/2020 11:58

This is so disturbing. It's bothered me so much. I was abused as a child, I can't believe there's such a powerful, legal agenda to push people to believe that that was ok, and is ok. I feel so sick.

justanotherneighinparadise · 16/06/2020 11:59

Also, what the hell happened to informative videos about how to safely cross the road and stranger danger? The kind of stuff I remember when I was growing up. I just asked my son if that stuff gets taught at school and he said no, but they did get a big talk about their private areas and what’s appropriate.

Ninkanink · 16/06/2020 12:02

@Notredamn and others Flowers

Many formidable, intelligent, strong women are fighting this and will continue doing so. We will win this war because when it comes right down to it everyone knows right from wrong. It’s going to take a lot of work and many more people to get on board, but the tide is turning. Light is being shone on the horrific underbelly.

We know where the line is. We will not be moved.

hoodathunkit · 16/06/2020 12:03

Also, what the hell happened to informative videos about how to safely cross the road and stranger danger?

It makes me wonder what new public information films would look like if they reflected the reality of safeguarding threats in the current insane climate?

NiveaSunday · 16/06/2020 12:06

Have any other supermarkets or organisations shared out free LGBT diversity resources for school children during lockdown?

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 12:12

"It makes me wonder what new public information films would look like if they reflected the reality of safeguarding threats in the current insane climate?"

Meooowwwgrrrreeeeowwwww - meooowwwwwww-purrrr "Char-leee says - 'Mummy is a horrible TERF because she said that biology is real'.

Meooowwwwww-prrrrurrrrrr "Char-leee says 'Mummy is rotting in jail now because we live in Scotland now'".

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