To be irrationally annoyed at the Daily Mail reporting England as the whole of the U.K?

[Rhine]

I know I shouldn’t let the DM bother me, but all through this crisis they’ve reported as if we are all living in England. Today’s headline ‘Shops across the U.K. reopen’. No they aren’t. Some shops in ENGLAND are reopening, here in Wales they are still very much closed for the time being.

‘Schools across Britain reopen’ no, they are still closed in Wales and Scotland.

‘Boris says it’s OK to travel long distances’. Not in Wales it’s not, we have to stick to 5 miles.

Seriously it’s like the rest of us don’t exist! Why are we being ignored in the other home nations? Our rule are different.

Why are you reading the daily fail?

I don’t know really? I know I shouldn’t let it annoy me.

YANBU but the very simple answer is to stop reading that utterly vile shitrag

Anywhere other than England is an irrelevance to them. We don’t tend to have much of an impact on who is voted into government so we’re just not important.

I have found an easy way to not let this bother me. I don't read it, so unless someone starts a thread about it reporting England as the whole UK, I know nothing about it.

There vile they tried to include the republic of Ireland in England rules by stating the "Irish prime minister" otherwise known as the taoiseach broke social distancing by going to the park to meet another household. At the time this was illegal in England but not in Ireland. There just click bait retards stop reading them.

The Prime Minister used to make the same mistake, until his last appearance where he was very clear to say changes were in England. Saying Britain when you mean England is a mistake that has been made for many years by many people.

The other home nations are ignored on many occasions.

I’m not defending the Mail, and I’d never buy it. But the conflating of England/Britain/UK as all being the same place and interchangeable is more understandable if you were born and raised in England.
These terms are all perfectly applicable to the area the English live in - they are at the intersection of all three parts of the UK Venn diagram.
It only ceases to be so if you are in Scotland or Wales (Britain, but not England), or Northern Ireland (UK, but not Britain or England).
For the English, we tend to just lazily assume any of the three terms means “us, and the area we live in”.
I do sympathise to a degree as I am English living in Scotland, but my goodwill is being rapidly eroded by the behaviour of the SNP!

The BBC and ITV news are doing very similar. I was saying to DH that if people's only exposure to news is catching 10 minutes of the six o'clock news they'd not know that the rules in Scotland were different!

Newspapers tend to do a Scottish version or not at all. If they believe Scottish readers would rather access a Scottish based paper the footfall of including general Scottish news has limited revenue.

Usually anywhere outside London is irrelevant to them, unless it's to take photos of northerners having a drink and being "out of control." I wouldn't worry- it's a shit rag.

YANBU but the very simple answer is to stop reading that utterly vile shitrag

You are right, I don’t actually buy it. But am guilty of reading their website.

Saying Britain when you mean England is a mistake that has been made for many years by many people

Yup.

And I disagree that the problem is reading the daily mail. It’s the same on bbc. Its the same with other news outlets.

It’s the same on Mumsnet.

The UK and Britain is used sweepingly to refer to England.

There was a poster on here last week asking if she would be able to drive “from the UK to Glasgow”.

It’s not a daily mail problem. It’s a problem everywhere.

There was a poster on here last week asking if she would be able to drive “from the UK to Glasgow”.

Seriously?!

I heard that on the 10pm news last night shop's across the UK reopening... Am used to England being touted as the whole of the UK... Kind of explains the arrogance.

The BBC go out of their way to say “in England” all the bleeding time. There’s really no need for the Welsh to have separate rules anyway. The virus doesn’t know it’s in Wales.

I find that a lot of the daily mail writers are lazy, they dont research even simple things before writing about them, and their spelling is often terrible.

If I read the website I do find myself trying to not get agitated that these people are actually paid to write news stories, yet it seems that research and spell check are beyond their capabilities.

Any numpty knows that England is not the whole of the UK.

I’ve noticed this on my sky news app, the stories which are titled to be about UK statistics and figures actually only have England’s info. It’s very annoying!

You are right, I don’t actually buy it. But am guilty of reading their website.
They still make money from your page clicks. And even more when you mention them on social media which causes other people to go and have a look.
Best not to mention the rag on here at all.

Here is last night’s BBC 10 o’clock news.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000k57n/bbc-weekend-news-late-news-14062020

“Tonight at 10, the fall in coronavirus cases could mean the rule for 2 metre social distancing is reduced in England.

As non-essential shops open in England tomorrow...”

Literally they say in England twice in the first two sentences.

Oh this really annoys me too!!!

The BBC go out of their way to say “in England” all the bleeding time. There’s really no need for the Welsh to have separate rules anyway. The virus doesn’t know it’s in Wales.

Like Scotland, we are a devolved power so yes, there was a need to have our own rules. I’m not generally fond of the Welsh government but I actually think they’ve handled it much better than Westminster. We are behind the England in terms of the Virus spread, for example where I live we didn’t get our first official case until way after London and South East and in the area I live it’s only just peaked.

There’s really no need for the Welsh to have separate rules anyway. The virus doesn’t know it’s in Wales

Perhaps every other country should just do what England do... they don’t need their own rules either. The virus doesn’t know it’s in Spain, Italy or France I suppose

I'm more annoyed by the BBC news website putting out headlines on restrictions changes in the 'Most Read' summary without tagging them as Welsh, English etc

Very deceptive if you just skim the headlines.

(Though I also frigging hate that 1) clicking a link usually takes you to the feed rather than a distinct article these days with no indication as to which and 2) IT DOESN'T EVEN TAKE YOU TO THE RIGHT PART OF THE FEED)

From Scotland- I completely agree!