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Scottish Govt saying PT home schooling is likely for the full school year

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YeahWhatevver · 14/06/2020 15:30

Scottish Govt is saying that blended learning (part time in school, part time home schooling) is likely to be in place for the full academic year.

Honestly, if I'm trying to juggle work and teaching 2 primary kids this time next year I'm going to have a nervous breakdown.

Funnily enough, UK govt at pains to reassure people that it's safe to start shopping on Monday, if its safe enough to shop, how isn't it safe enough to open schools?

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WhatTheWhoNow · 14/06/2020 19:42

@Coastercat

Can I ask where you heard the 4 days every 3 weeks? I received an email from school about Monday to Thursday learning and reduced classes but not that?

SockYarn · 14/06/2020 19:43

Does any other council have a worse education department? I’d be surprised!

I can do better! We're East Dunbartonshire, they have also banned any onlien teaching or pre-recorded video and we haven't even been TOLD what the arrangements might be for next term.

I have a P7 who is supposed to be moving up to S1, we've been told that transition visits might happen this week, might not, maybe just for children with additional needs, maybe for everyone, maybe just for children who don't have siblings at the school. Who knows?

Coastercat · 14/06/2020 19:43

Remove all social distancing in schools and get all of the kids back. It is the only way to proceed that treats the kids fairly. They have been treated so badly for so long.

Tunnockswafer · 14/06/2020 19:43

I haven't heard that either re Edinburgh schools, and I've two dc in two schools

Coastercat · 14/06/2020 19:44

Letter from the council forwarded by the school. I think it is on the council website too

applesandpears33 · 14/06/2020 19:46

@WhatTheWhoNow - it is because the Council have said each school will only have 33% occupancy and are only open to non-hub pupils Monday to Thursday, so each pupil will only be in school for four days in every three weeks.

SockYarn · 14/06/2020 19:48

www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/when-do-edinburgh-schools-reopen-18411778

Edinburgh letter.

"Across the city, in-school learning will take place from Mondays to Thursdays. Fridays will be used by staff to support home learning and limited Key Worker childcare support will continue throughout the week, including Fridays, during normal school hours at each child’s school. All children will attend for whole days."

So a day every week, with an extra day every three weeks.

It also sounds like it's not fixed days - group A monday, group B tuesday, group C wednesday, A again on thursday. Then next week B on monday, C on tuesday, A wednesday, B thusday.

What a fucking nightmare for parents.

Coastercat · 14/06/2020 19:49

Please write to your msp and councillors with your views.

SockYarn · 14/06/2020 19:51

And all the list MSPs who cover your area.
And the Commissioner for Children and Young People.

And the fucking Queen or Gerard sodding Butler if you think it would help. I think the word for what we are trying to create is a "stooshie".

TheMurk · 14/06/2020 19:52

@SockYarn EDC making their announcement tomorrow apparently.

I don’t have high hopes.

TheMurk · 14/06/2020 19:54

@Coastercat

Remove all social distancing in schools and get all of the kids back. It is the only way to proceed that treats the kids fairly. They have been treated so badly for so long.
Absolutely agree.

Just get them all back in school as before.

nextslideplease · 14/06/2020 19:55

Nicola Sturgeon appeals to those who want independence but are unable to see how economically devastating it would be. It’s a lot of people unfortunately. She’s dire.

Absolutely this ^

And yes, she said up to 2 years extension for furlough. She's 100% playing a game so its boris' fault if people lose their jobs and nothing at all to do with Nicola extending lockdown and doing blended learning for a year.

I can't abide the woman

We've had no communication yet from our school either except they are working on the new timetable. In fact communication from the school has been awful full stop and the lessons have been too easy and too little. We are one of the worst performing LAs and our school is the worst performing in that LA and its no surprise.

backaftera2yearbreak · 14/06/2020 19:56

I can’t quite believe this. What provision is being set up for working parents on days the children are not at school? And 18 months of wishy washy half baked part time education is going to have a massive negative effect in the long term. And what about vulnerable children?

Me thinks a year before an election is a bad time to piss off parents. Although with the SNP it’s something of a tribe following.

nextslideplease · 14/06/2020 19:57

and the 'track and trace' system is not successful because most people don't know about it or how to use it.

I've seen no adverts for it anywhere.

My DF and DM won't use any app or website for security and privacy reasons. I supect many are like them too.

So we can't really be sure the figures are correct, can we?

Sceptre86 · 14/06/2020 19:59

The scottish education minister was on tv this morning. He didn't explicitly state that blended learning will go on for the full school year but didn't deny it either. What he did say is that it is difficult to predict what will happen over the course of the next school year but they are working towards a model where pupils will get more face to face teaching which I am guessing may be online as he didn't specifically say this would be in person.

I really hope this is not the case for the full academic year. My ds is due to start preschool and would be getting the new funded hours so should have been going Monday to Friday for the am sessions with his sister. My dd starts p1 August 2021.

My sil has handed in her notice from her part time job to be able to home teach her son and take care of him on the days he is not at school. He will be moving into p2. She was a teacher before she had nephew and dbil is a high earner so they will manage but it impacts her independence. Other parents will not be in as fortunate a situation and more than likely it will be the parent (usually mother) that works part time that will reduce their hours even more or leave work.

I think Nicola Sturgeon will clarify his remarks which were wishy washy next week. It is difficult to predict what will happen but unless we get another wave over winter I believe kids will be back to school for a full week after Christmas. I certainly hope so. Parents should lobby their local mp if concerned and get them to raise it in scottish parliament.

Willow2017 · 14/06/2020 20:00

And all the list MSPs who cover your area.

Fat chance the one in my area thinks opening Edinburgh Zoo on a booking system will result in so many DEATHS all over Scotland! Encourging batshittery on twitter at the sheer irrisponsibility of it all and dont we know there is a pandemic loose? Angry

nextslideplease · 14/06/2020 20:01

I'm on a roll....

Exam results in August - parents will be fucking furious I bet

What's to stop parents complaining that their child should have gotten an A? With an actual exam then that argument is harder to make surely?

My DD isn't at exam stage yet but I can forsee chaos and extra pressure on the SNP

nextslideplease · 14/06/2020 20:01

*without an exam

nextslideplease · 14/06/2020 20:03

dammit, its harder to argue your kid should have gotten an A if they did an exam and failed it.

Stupid typos

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 14/06/2020 20:04

It also sounds like it's not fixed days - group A monday, group B tuesday, group C wednesday, A again on thursday. Then next week B on monday, C on tuesday, A wednesday, B thusday.

How can people work to that schedule?

We're lucky in that my eldest is only going into p1, dh is working from home anyways and I'm a sahm but this is unworkable for all of my working friends.

Bollss · 14/06/2020 20:05

@nextslideplease

and the 'track and trace' system is not successful because most people don't know about it or how to use it.

I've seen no adverts for it anywhere.

My DF and DM won't use any app or website for security and privacy reasons. I supect many are like them too.

So we can't really be sure the figures are correct, can we?

The apps not live but actual people will ring you if you test positive and ask you who you've been in contact with. Then they contact those people.
CountessFrog · 14/06/2020 20:06

From an English viewpoint, she seems like a strong leader and a force for change and an voice’ in Scotland - which is presumably a good thing.

However, she just comes across as...how can I put this as an English person who is ignorant of many issues....?

She comes across as a bitter woman who would encourage any division from the uk government, no matter what the cost, and mainly because she capitalises on some people in Scotland really not liking the English.

I personally would like Scotland to remain in the UK because it is an important part of the union, however, NS and her constant attempts to be ‘different’ wear me down until I think ‘just leave, then.’

She just looks like she’s playing political games, however my Scottish friend is SUCH a fervent supporter. She’s very determinedly Scottish. To the extent I wonder why she’s happy to live in England

SockYarn · 14/06/2020 20:09

and the 'track and trace' system is not successful because most people don't know about it or how to use it.

I had a Covid test (in Scotland) yesterday. Had it been positive, I would have done nothing. I don't need to know how to use it, that's not my job. It's the job of the staff who ring you up and ask you who you've been in contact with for more than 15 minutes over the last week.