Scottish Govt saying PT home schooling is likely for the full school year

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Scottish Govt is saying that blended learning (part time in school, part time home schooling) is likely to be in place for the full academic year.

Honestly, if I'm trying to juggle work and teaching 2 primary kids this time next year I'm going to have a nervous breakdown.

Funnily enough, UK govt at pains to reassure people that it's safe to start shopping on Monday, if its safe enough to shop, how isn't it safe enough to open schools?

Well, shops social distancing will impact business in the long run. Lots of people have already said they won't go to the shops because they can't try things on. In the longterm, if a business doesn't make money (and often online sales are irrelevant when it comes to what the bricks and mortar shops are taking), they'll close and people will lose their jobs

Yep understandable. Still not as much of an effect as only getting one third of an education. Lots of those shop staff will have to resign anyway to take care of their children.

This is going to impact everyone, not just school children. I know very, very few families who haven't been impacted by this. Whether it's redundancies, losing vast amounts of business, having to WFH and home-school at the same time, mental health issues, not getting the right medical treatment etc

Yes and all those related to this elongated lockdown. They've well and truly fucked it and are planning on fucking it even further.

I don't think anyone is arguing that it's beneficial for children to be in school two days a week (or whatever it ends up being) but the Scotland isn't the only country who is doing this. Part-time and online schooling is happening all over the place

True - but how many are planning on offering only ten hours a week for the new school year in its entirety?

Schools are finishing this term that way which is totally understandable but planning to carry it on for a full year when they've been out since march is fucking ridiculous.

Total insanity.

There is absolutely no rationale for this.

Why does the Scottish government go largely unchallenged?

Scotland already has a failing education system. They’ve managed to delay the education review blaming coronavirus until after the may election. Now they can blame any further shortcomings on the COVID response while simultaneously saving money by remodelling a tried and tested education system that is replicated worldwide because it works!

I hope this backfires on the SNP, it’s time for a new broom.

@Ladolcevida it’s a shame that petition mentions part time schooling as a viable alternative. I disagree with that part. Children need to be back full time by sept

The message from Scotland is that they're prepared to through children and their families under the bus to prevent people dying of covid. The numbers in Scotland right now are tiny.

*They are happy to plunge families into poverty, and widen the educational gap massively.

It's a disgrace.*. A million times this, and fuck any other health condition, mental and physical exacerbated by this lockdown. Is not covid so doesn't count. My MP has already responded to my email with a 'l am only responding to queries related to covid'. And been directed to an online learning website!

Ludicrous and probably unnecessary. Are they trying to gauge public opinion to test the waters?

It works for SNP’s socialist agenda to have a dependent population.

She’s holding back business and entrepreneurship too right now by keeping us 3 weeks behind.

I hope women take note when it comes time to vote. I'm sick of the snp and there seems to be no alternative.

It works for SNP’s socialist agenda to have a dependent population

Yeah, fuck the economy, semd unemployment sky high & then offer freebies to get financially strapped people to vote you in again.

@bookishtartlet also in the bbc

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53040593

‘Unlikely’ to return to normal this year.So may increase not not expected to be full time.

Schools are finishing this term that way which is totally understandable but planning to carry it on for a full year when they've been out since march is fucking ridiculous.

What they plan and what actually happens are probably two totally different things. Surely it's better they plan for the worst-case scenario? If things can go back to normal sooner rather than later, then that's obviously even better. It's not just Scotland either - lots of schools in Europe aren't even open yet, and won't be until September.

To be fair, this is a totally unprecedented situation for everyone and they're kind of damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they re-open schools and children and teachers die because infections sky-rocket, they will be thrown under the bus for putting everyone's children at risk. And when they don't open/put measures in place, they're still getting slammed.

There is no answer that will please everyone.

Get the children back full time by September weekend at the latest by then we will know what the virus is doing in the community.

Ridiculous pubs will be opening in July apparently but not schools a month later.

Test teachers weekly, this would give a good indication of the spread through schools?

Good idea sweetkitty

YANBU I'm so fed up with it. My 13 year old has started 3rd year and isn't the most motivated student and needs a lot of support.
It's been hellish trying to homeschool and I feel he will never achieve his potential at all.
My 2 year old has been invited back to full time childcare however 🤔.

All the info that I have seen seems to show that adults are not likely to catch it from children. They are way more likely to catch it from other adults. So let the kids go back to school as normal, and ensure the adults around them practise social distancing from each other.

It's the most ridiculous thing I've heard from the SNP and that's saying something.

Luckily a campaign against it is rapidly gathering steam. Part time school and part time home would be OK but only IF they could guarantee that the time at home would be properly organised and supported. but with no investment and no extra staff it won't be. It will be more of the same as we've had since 23rd March, which is the grand total of fuck all.

Scotland has the lowest R number in the UK - don't really believe in R rate though as it's the NUMBERS of people who are infected which is the important bit. This is falling rapidly in Scotland, even with all the "covidiots" having barbecues at Loch Lomond. Numbers in ICU down to practically single figures, half of cases in care homes.

There is just ZERO justification for this other than political posturing. I am really hoping that their aim is to wind parents up into a frenzy over their part-time school proposals and then Saint Nicola will sweep in on her white steed around the beginning of August, announced that because the SNP has done such a marvellous job that we can all send the kids back as usual. And the faithful will lap it up with "Oh isn't Nicola so wonderful and caring" shite.

I am more cross about this than I have been about anything in a long time. Total and utter FUCKWITS.

And another thing (whilst I’m on a rant) how am I supposed to homeschool my primary aged DC when I’m at school teaching other DC? Luckily my DH is WFH for the foreseeable but he is working and DS is 10 now so not my that demanding. I have colleagues with young children so anxious about childcare and not wanting to send their children to a sports centre 3 days a week.

But hey, everyone getting their knickers in a knot over schools stops us talking about the Nike conference and the Care Homes fuck-up, right?

I'm North Lanarkshire. Our schools are saying that most children will be in 2 days per week, either Monday and Tuesday or Wednesday and Thursday.

Fridays for primary school will be vulnerable children or those that need extra help. Secondary will be at the head teachers discretion.

My eldest is going into S6, I think he'll be ok with this, he's only doing 4 subjects and he's quite good at organising himself and handing in assessments etc.

My youngest is going into P7, he is not engaging with home schooling at all. I'm really hoping he'll be offered a Friday too. Fingers crossed, so worrying for them.

Surely desparate working parents will just be forced to rely on grandparents for childcare, thereby increasing the risk to the genuinely vulnerable?

Shops social distancing hurts nobody

Of course it does. A shop that restricts the number of customers, also restricts the number of sales, and the profit margin. They, and restaurants, and buses airports and schools, are ALL going to suffer
the same problems from not being able to service the number of people they did pre-covid.

Swinney made a point of saying that while school attendance will be compulsory, home schooling won't; parents who don't won't be penalised (just their children, of course). But as every teacher knows, the major educational inequality most children face, is the parental level of encouragement and interest.

As far as child care on off-school days goes, I'm afraid there are going to be so many parents who lose their jobs they will be at home.

I'm a bit shocked that so many posters automatically assume the SAHP will be the mothers. I reckon just as many fathers at home and unemployed .

I actually think the schools plan is very good and should have been put in place in mid-May at least for key year groups with ramping up to full time after the Christmas holidays. But there is no justification for this now - the kids need a proper education.

I have severe emetophobia, and had massive anxiety about the DC going to school when they were younger during the dreaded noro season.

I don't think my anxiety about them catching something would have been a good reason for me to keep them off school, or to demand that schools shut from September - March every year.

The same is true of Covid.

@sweetkitty but the point is that saying 'pubs will be open' isn't really accurate. They will be allowed to open outdoor spaces with 2 m distancing. So their capacity will be considerably reduced. Just like the schools.

@SockYarn

It's the most ridiculous thing I've heard from the SNP and that's saying something.

Luckily a campaign against it is rapidly gathering steam. Part time school and part time home would be OK but only IF they could guarantee that the time at home would be properly organised and supported. but with no investment and no extra staff it won't be. It will be more of the same as we've had since 23rd March, which is the grand total of fuck all.

Scotland has the lowest R number in the UK - don't really believe in R rate though as it's the NUMBERS of people who are infected which is the important bit. This is falling rapidly in Scotland, even with all the "covidiots" having barbecues at Loch Lomond. Numbers in ICU down to practically single figures, half of cases in care homes.

There is just ZERO justification for this other than political posturing. I am really hoping that their aim is to wind parents up into a frenzy over their part-time school proposals and then Saint Nicola will sweep in on her white steed around the beginning of August, announced that because the SNP has done such a marvellous job that we can all send the kids back as usual. And the faithful will lap it up with "Oh isn't Nicola so wonderful and caring" shite.

I am more cross about this than I have been about anything in a long time. Total and utter FUCKWITS.

@SockYarn *Saint Nicola will sweep in on her white steed around the beginning of August, announced that because the SNP has done such a marvellous job that we can all send the kids back as usual. And the faithful will lap it up with "Oh isn't Nicola so wonderful and caring" shite.

I am more cross about this than I have been about anything in a long time. Total and utter FUCKWITS.*

Exactly this, and I couldn’t agree with you more.

Sorry I meant summer holidays not Christmas