Government should be on War footing

[randomer]

FFS forget your petty squabbles, and your " right honourable gentleman"
nonsense. This is above and beyond anything I've every experienced in my lifetime.
Gather together the best, the most experienced, the ones who get things done and fucking provide some decisive direction and leadership.

End the riots, the food banks, tha chaos round schools, the absurd binary media.

It's all a bit of a coincidence isn't it? I support the grass roots BLM, but its hijacking and the riots between right wing and left wing white guys is curious timing.

Who are we actually about to go to war with? Who is India presently militarily engaging and holding off encroaching on their northern borders?

When I say a war footing, I mean some sort of cross party group to deal with the unprecendented situation ( yes ,people bandy that word around a lot, but it is) A world wide pandemic, years of neglect of basic services, volunteers mopping up the slack, the decimation of local authorities and so on. Frustrated, angry people, criminals, enraged idiots.

BJ and his cronies are drowning. And we all be going under with them at this rate..

But it’s the opposite. BJ has replaced any competent cabinet ministers with a bunch of third-raters who wouldn’t challenge him. Worse possible timing as well.

The government is on a war footing. Daily cobra meetings followed by daily press conference to the nation. Spending billions and billions. Taken unprecedented powers in the Coronavirus act to restrict citizens actions.

They may not be doing a very good job but they are on a war footing. What exactly would you like them to do?

I understand that, OP. However, the events aren't necessarily unconnected.

BJ and his cronies are drowning. And we all be going under with them at this rate..

We chose them. There are consequences. That's the way the system works.

What Weasel said. We (not me) chose this leadership and have to live with the reality of what that actually means.
Still, you can all look forward to your no-deal Brexit and all the additional risk and uncertainty that will bring.

Correct , they were chosen. Then the world imploded and now its time to be creative, to do away with petty squabbles, the posturing and enlist the brightest and best, men and women, black and white who have a proven track record and work collabaratively. Or carry on lying.

Or carry on lying.

Sorry to repeat the same point, but we chose a man who is a liar to lead the country. It was hardly a secret, he is a well-documented and persistentant liar. People saw other qualities in him that they decided outweighed his faults. We use our judgement to vote in a Parliament of people we trust to lead and represent us for five years, and then unforeseen events happen which they deal with. That's the system.

Indeed@WeaselKnickers, but my crazed fantasy, is that we are in extra ordinary times.

is that we are in extra ordinary times

As far as the ultra rich oligarchs, the disaster capatalists and the inherited wealth bunch arent in extra ordinary times, they will be barely affected by a No Deal Brexit, they will barely be affected by the current pandemic and the collapse of the economy, most of their money isnt even the country, they also happen to be Tory donors so sorry OP they just dont give a shit

I feel stupid and naive for thinking anything different.

C’mon OP @randomer what about appearance? 😔😔😔

More people than not voted for (a) the Conservatives and (b) Brexit, and now they're getting them good and hard.

I'm concerned about the collapse of the NHS and the education system but this is what more people than not voted for.

It's bloody depressing.

Dishwashersaurous

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/14/prime-minister-has-not-hosted-a-cobra-emergency-committee-for-over-a-month

No cobra meetings since 10th May?!

enlist the brightest and best, men and women, black and white who have a proven track record and work collabaratively.
Who do you have in mind?

I am concerned about your mention of the binary press. However much I hate the Express and the Mail and their ilk, and however much I roll my eyes at the ineffectuality of the Guardian and the Independent, a free press is not something to be tampered with. That's straight out of the fascist playbook. There's a reason why Trump keeps talking about it.

@randomer

Correct , they were chosen. Then the world imploded and now its time to be creative, to do away with petty squabbles, the posturing and enlist the brightest and best, men and women, black and white who have a proven track record and work collabaratively. Or carry on lying.

OMG..is this another left wing diatribe bursting into life again after being well and truly rejected by the country only 6 months ago. They really don't listen

All these people who say we all voted for boris, do you not understand how a general election works? You vote for your local mp, not the party leader unless he or she is your local mp.

Daily cobra meetings followed by daily press conference to the nation.

There hasn't been a Cobra meeting since early May. Allegedly Johnson didn't like hearing push back on his views.

His approach seems very chaotic and lacking in detail. Communication with local and devolved government has been terrible. There has been no consultation with the organisations which need to implement decisions. Guidance changes constantly. He attacks those who disagree or ask for details.

Not left wing, asking for cooperation because I think the death rate and the poverty in this country absolutely stinks. But never mind.

We had poverty before the election. We've had it for some time. Decades, in fact. Schemes were introduced to try to mitigate against this: Sure Start, Widening Participation, etc., but these have now gone. The fact is, people have voted for more inequality in the last few elections and probably still would.

Inequality in this country is appalling, but if you say anything about it, you usually get a comment like 'communism doesn't work', despite there being many things between massive wealth inequality and communism. If you mention poverty, people will say there's no absolute poverty in this country and we should consider ourselves lucky when compared with, say, Bangladesh.

When the real economic repercussions of Covid-related job losses are felt and we get the no-deal Brexit that so many clamoured for, what do you think happens to poverty then? Will it get better or worse?

Baileys people voted for Brexit, they voted for Tories, so they voted for poverty. Mind you, they probably voted for poverty for other people. Now with COVID and No Deal, a lot of people are going to get what they voted for, and they will learn that they are the 'other people'.

It's just a shame so many who didn't vote for any of that are going to get hit by it too.

Sorry to repeat the same point, but we chose a man who is a liar to lead the country

Not just "a liar" but someone who was sacked twice for lying - once from a cabinet post.

But he's also a cheat many times over (ask one of the former Mrs. Johnsons).

And he conspired to have a journalist beaten up with a "friend" of his who was convicted of a multimillion pound fraud.

So, spare me any handwringing. If you chose a clown for PM, you get a circus of a country.

Next time choose better. And in the meantime just deal with it.