To ask you the difference between a , clinical psycologist,psychoanalyst and chartered, psychologist

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Looking for support for my son and haven’t got a clue.

Hi. A clinical psychologist has to complete placements across a range of areas (usually adult, child, learning disabilities, older adults and a ‘specialist’ placement) as part of their doctoral qualifications. They have to be registered with the HCPC. The chartered status as someone mentioned above is related to whether they are also members of the British psychological society (bps). The person you looked at should be on the HCPC register even though they might not be on the BPS one. Clinical psychologists are able to work from a range of psychological models (that’s not to say the counselling and Ed psychs can’t do that too).
It very much depends on the issue you need support with. If it’s MH issues a clinical psych might suit you better than an Ed psych.

Sadly agree with you about CAMHS.
What part of the country are you in OP? (Just thinking that if you were in my neck of the woods I worked with a superb EP a few years ago...)

Why would he not be on the Hpch thing?

South West

Yes, they should be able to point you on the right direction

If it's a mental health issue I would suggest looking for a clinical psychologist.

I would suggest arranging an assessment with your son and the potential psychologist to see if they get on and if they both feel they can work together. Personality can be a big factor and for any kind of therapy engagement is key. I work in adult mental health. I would personally be dubious about someone who is psychoanalyst, especially working with a teenager.

Wishing you luck finding someone who can offer the right support.

What are looking for help with? Do you want talking therapy /treatment (CBT or DBT) or are you thinking you need medication.

If you’re thinking you need medication you might need a child or adolescent psychiatrist. The mental health board on here is good for advise and support.

(I agree with you on CAMHs, my daughter is on the urgent list for a psychiatrist, 2.5 months and waiting!)

If he’s not on the HCPC register then he is not a qualified, registered psychologist.

No good then - I am East Midlands.
Hopefully a SENDCo in your locality will read and respond.

I'm an EP, OP. Feel free to send me a Pm and I'll do my best to guide.

BPS: www.bps.org.uk/public/find-psychologist

I'm NW London based but currently on extended leave due to having a baby. I'm sure I can recommend someone though.

What kind of mental health issues does your ds need help with?

I am an educational psychologist. If your child's needs are predominantly mental health, I would find a clinical psychologist. Educational psychologists generally work with schools to think how young people, including those with mental health issues, can be supported in school / college but direct work with young people is often limited. I am not trained to provide the kind of therapy a clinical psychologist can and certainly there is no time for me to do this within the constraints of my job working for a local authority. Some EPs may have had this training, but not all.

Clinical psychologist/educational psychologist qualified to doctoral level and registered with HPCP.

Psychoanalysis is a form of psychotherapy In the same way CBT, EMDR are forms of therapy. I’d be checking qualifications carefully because they don’t need to be registered and might have 2 years general training or 10 years specialist training or anything in between. BACP are a membership body for counsellors and psychotherapists.

All have a role depending on the nature of your sons difficulties.

Hi

If your son is 16 and has a MH issue, a Clinical Psychologist would be appropriate.

This NHS page explains a bit about the role : www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/psychological-therapies/roles/clinical-psychologist

All Clinical Psychologists have to be registered with the HCPC by law. They can also choose to be registered with the BPS (but don't have to).

Chartered isn't as important. Just means they have experience and are a member of the BPS (lots of Clinical Psychologists aren't)

Psychoanalysts have a different type of training and don't legally have to be registered with any particular body.

Anyone can call themselves a Psychologist. It's not a legally protected title and you can't be sure what their training has been.

You're likely to find Clinical Psychologists charge the most - they've done a minimum of six years at Uni - an undergraduate degree and a Doctorate (unless they qualified a long time ago). And most have done more time at Uni than this and have a number of years experience as well.

It's confusing - you're not alone in finding it confusing.

If you decide on a Clinical Psychologist, I would check they are registered on the HCPC website. Here is the address: www.hcpc-uk.org/check-the-register/

I hope you and your family are able to find the support you need.

I would start with what the issues are and his personality and work from there. Different therapists suit different people at varying points.

God thank you so much. I think you all might have helped save me from wasting a lot of money.😱

Bob just messaging you.

OP
Agree you need a clinical psychologist. They usually work in the health service, camhs, and/or private practice and they are registered with hpcp. They will have a psychology degree and a doctorate in clinical psychology. As I understand it they will also be a member of the bps and a chartered psychologist. It is pretty hard to become a clinical psychologist because of the limited number of training places.

Make sure anyone you use is registered with the hcpc.

Yes it is more difficult than it should be.

I’m not sure anyone can say what your son “needs” without knowing his issues. Mental health care is pretty varied and complex, some issues if absolutely suggest a clin psych but for others a counsellor/therapist might be just the right thing.

More important to look at their training and experience - what their specialism is, how they’ve trained and their experience in working with young people.

My son has severe self hatred from homophobic bullying. He now has severe anxiety on top. Pacing, obsessively going over things, can’t focus on anything...,

If you are considering medication try a psychiatrist. I was advised to skip the psychologist as if medication was required in the future I'd have to rebook a psychiatrist. My DS has DMDD he'll grow out of it with lots of supports though he will more than likely suffer another MH illness in adulthood.
Young mind groups are helpful too.

Just saw your update. That's awful are there any specific LGBT support groups.

Somebody needs to pull all this and offer proper trained diagnosis and guidance for parents who can scrape together money to pay for some private treatment. It’s ridiculous. I’ve literally spent hours googling and researching.