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Is the reason what I think it is?

68 replies

MadameBee · 13/06/2020 12:35

For there not being the outrage there was when Rachel Nickell was murdered.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/12/london-sisters-nicole-smallman-bibaa-henry-murdered-stranger-police

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1WildTeaParty · 13/06/2020 19:40

Your point isn't clear OP

If you are saying that a story about stabbings that happen late at night in party situations in the city gets reported on less than that of a mother stabbed in front of her toddler in a park in daylight - then you are right.

Felifox · 13/06/2020 19:54

Madeleine McCann hadn't reached h

Felifox · 13/06/2020 20:00

Madeleine McCann hadn't reached her 4th birthday. I remember Rachel Nickel as I used to walk on Wimbledon Common early and due to the fact there was a very small dc involved.

With these two sisters I would expect the police to be talking to people they were with, and looking at CCTV. It's a very sad situation but it's more likely the police are investigating before putting out appeals. But two sisters murdered, th

OffToSingapore · 13/06/2020 20:14

It's because they're female, and sadly, women being murdered is too common to be remarkable. How many women or girls were murdered in the year to last March?
241

OK except men are far more likely to be murdered than women (429 male victims in the same time period). And female murder victims generally get much more media attention than males - particularly if they’re white, young, photogenic and/or from a middle/upper class background.

Livelovebehappy · 13/06/2020 20:31

I heard and read about the murders but tbh I thought maybe with it happening at an outdoor party in the middle of the night that it was some sort of fight which had gotten out of hand. The information surrounding what happened wasn’t immediately available. Please don’t see issues where none exist. Don’t you think there’s enough crap at the moment without stirring the pot?

garino · 13/06/2020 20:38

A Jewish man was stabbed in Hackney this week and there hasn't been much news coverage of that either.

NOTANUM · 13/06/2020 20:40

Unconscious bias basically.

I suspect many people originally thought that it was a black community crime, or a gathering that got out of hand.

But that's just nonsense - they were two sisters having a birthday drink together in the park and were utterly blameless.

So yeah I think the lack of coverage is because the victims were not white. No-one would immediately think "gangs" if two white middle aged sisters were killed on Hampstead Heath.

LillianBland · 13/06/2020 20:50

@OffToSingapore

*It's because they're female, and sadly, women being murdered is too common to be remarkable. How many women or girls were murdered in the year to last March? 241*

OK except men are far more likely to be murdered than women (429 male victims in the same time period). And female murder victims generally get much more media attention than males - particularly if they’re white, young, photogenic and/or from a middle/upper class background.

That’s because men killing men is so common as to be almost expected. Most are fights, robberies, drugs, alcohol or gang related. Women are murdered by men, because they’re easy targets, many of whom have suffered at the hands of those men for years. Male violence is a terrible problem.

I feel so sorry for the parents of those poor young women. How do you ever come to terms with losing a child under those circumstances. Heartbreaking.

LidlDonkey · 13/06/2020 21:04

I think it hasn't been as high profile as Rachel Nickell because from the outset her murderer was clearly a stranger. With it being night, and a party going on, it may have been less clear cut that it wasn't someone they knew. Which is obviously still abhorrent, but not as frightening to the general public, so therefore not as news-worthy, sadly.

FAQs · 13/06/2020 22:18

There was a lot of coverage of the Jewish man and the two members of the public who assisted.

flirtygirl · 13/06/2020 22:56

Lots of murders and missing persons cases go under the radar.
But they go under the radar more when it is a bame victim.

Totally different media handling between a missing white girl and a missing black girl.

Wording and bias in the reporting also happens. That's no mystery.

AnnaSW1 · 13/06/2020 23:03

They aren't comparable

WinWinnieTheWay · 13/06/2020 23:08

The first I saw of this was that they were found dead and no other information. I don't know why the public was given space to speculate when it was obvious it was a murder.

SoloMummy · 14/06/2020 08:36

@MadameBee
This has been reported in broadsheets, tabloids, in radio and TV (sky and BBC).
What more do you want ?

nettie434 · 14/06/2020 19:41

I expected to see more news coverage. It is unusual to have two victims killed together outside a domestic setting. It is so tragic for their families and friends. I have to say I think it reflects the increase in the number of violent murders of women too. I agree that the murder of Rachel Nickell stuck out because of her son being there and the police willingly, almost proudly, revealing their suspect was entrapped. The controversy meant the case never went away. I hope the reason for the comparative lack of coverage is because the police are gathering evidence but I can't say I am 100% sure it is not because of their ethnic background.

user1469530553 · 26/06/2020 22:48

Maybe because of this?

BBC News - Wembley park murders: PCs 'took selfies next to sisters' dead bodies'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53198702

MrsWombat · 27/06/2020 09:25

I think you're right OP. From what I read, even the police didn't take their being missing seriously.

grafft · 02/07/2020 22:52

They have charged an 18 yo. I still think it's weird how quiet it's all been.

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