When will misogyny be renounced and toppled?

[GanjaGranny]

Look at all these statues rightfully falling....
Baden Powell being decried as a bigot... much more to come....
I am so glad that something concrete will come from Gorge Floyds death.

How many would we have left if we destroyed statues of misogynistic figures? Destroyed their works?
Renamed streets?
Apologised for past offences?

....when will our time come?

2 women die every week...
where is the outrage?

Women only received the vote because a few brave women "fell" under the Kings horse and bombed stately homes (and women's presumed conservatism was thought to offset the presumed liberal new working man's vote).

It’s a common myth that the suffragette bombings got women the vote. It actually set the movement back by decades because the violence proved the points of those saying women were too emotional and irrational to vote. Just read the Parliament debates from then. It’s similar to the protests, what, 8yrs ago? When the tuition fees when up to £9k/yr. Parliament was majority in support of the students until violence erupted and vandalism happened. Parliament then turned firmly against the students and allowed the tuition fees to triple.

The truth is women only got the vote after WWI because they had to give returning soldiers the vote. But they feared they would all vote labour. So they extended the vote to *married women age 30 and older” thinking they’d vote under the paternal guidance of their conservative husbands. This was calculated to offset the labour votes of the newly enfranchised working class men.

Something I really don't understand, so I'm going to ask, please be kind.

why do so many women who have worked hard to qualify for a career they love not fight to keep their career when they don't want to give up.

I don't think there's anything wrong with giving up, I did with no pressure from anywhere, it was a personal decision backed by my dh.
But I'd be damned if i'd have stopped for any other reason, societal, financial, family, etc.

I just think when women demand their partners treat them equally, then things will change for the better. Society can only change from individuals changing.

40 posts on the Guest Post regarding rough sex defence in murder cases, but hundreds on topics concerning coldsores, neighbour disputes etc Many people are just not interested, they live in their bubbles and think these issues don't affect them. Agree with you competely Abitofalark.

Devlesko

We need to make work more flexible/family friendly, and we need to have more honest conversations about how pregnancy, childbirth and motherhood affects women, like all life changing events it can irrevocably change a woman when they have a child, and this needs to be acknowledged, many women struggle with handing their babies/young children over to other carers because every hormone in our body is primed not to care for them ourselves, we need to start acknowledging this, and that there is no shame in motherhood, equally there is no shame in pursuing a career, and women should feel supported in making that choice, as it stands it’s incredibly difficult to do both, unless employees can improve their part time and flexible work options many mothers will have to take extended periods out of work.

I’m the generation that was sold the lie ‘women can have it all’ but right now we really can’t because the systems aren’t in place to enable it.

I was saying the very same thing this morning- rape statistics and lack of successful prosecutions.

Child abuse

Domestic violence

Women and the 'mental load'

White male privilege

Why are women not marching too

I'm thinking of a graffiti campaign (because I'm old school)
xx dead this year
WLM

it could be a teaser.....you could go round the following week and spell it out
womens lives matter

Why are women not marching too

We are in our way, but just look at the abuse we get when we do- head over to twitter and it will really open your eyes to how ingrained misogyny is

Edit to my earlier post every hormone in our body is primed to care from them ourselves

@Laserbird16

Oh shit...I didn't realise this was turning into a what about thread. Er Black women have a supremely shit time so if you're concerned about women be concerned about BLM

Don’t be so fucking offensive. This thread is about ALL women. And it is about patriarchy and misogyny. Women can discuss these things you know?

Can’t we be concerned about women and BLM? And black women, who are generally paid less than white women and put up with the same sexist shit AND racism.

I read threads on here all the time about women struggling and male partners who won't help or don't want to- and the women put up with it. Then comes divorce, if it comes at all, women focus on the children and how they are going to manage their career and 100% childcare meanwhile their husbands focus on the money and having the children (if they want) every other weekend. Wow.

I had a phone call today from a friend who is working full time from home, cooking all the meals, cleaning and now home schooling two primary school children. He swans around also working from home but in a 'study' with the door shut as he 'can't be disturbed' - he swans around every day saying 'what are you cooking?for tea etc' I said there is your first problems- both working from home -you get the study in the morning, he does home schooling / children then swap at midday etc -she gasped -he would never agree to that. So instead you agree to do your job in the kitchen and everything else??? Unless we start raising boys and girls right to expect and demand equal work share -it will never start to change. Sexism is much worse now that 40 years ago. Without a doubt.

I thought about the “when will misogyny be renounced and toppled” question while eating my dinner.

My honest answer is: Never

This is because misogyny is based in the emotion of hate. And humans will continue to hate “others” for as long as we exist as a species. Without hate, there is no love. We are programmed to love those we are close to- by blood, nationality, culture, by similarities. Likewise, we are programmed to hate those we are far from- by blood, nationality, culture...by differences.

Of course there are a few humans that love by differences, but in those cases, they hate by similarities. Example- that white professor who renounced being white and wished for white genocide. You cannot have love without hate.

The best we can hope for is for that hate to be internalised and directed inwards instead of outwards to harm us, kill us, rape us. Similar to white guilt, we need man guilt to flourish.

It’s the constant Yin/Yang of existence. There is no light without dark.

SummerDay, that is awful for your friend.