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To be shocked that this was ever ok?! Blackface on Little Britain...

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BrexitBingoGenerator · 09/06/2020 17:27

Hello. I've just been looking at the Daily Mail (sorry) and there is a thing about this. I was genuinely gobsmacked seeing the photo and it's completely offensive. However, at some time in the not-so-distant past, this was seen as mainstream comedy and I remember it being on primetime telly. So a critical mass of people must have thought this was ok? I never really watched little Britain and this sketch in particular made me want to heave, but I think at the time it was rather for its horrible portrayal of women generally. I don't remember outrage over it at the time. But maybe there was? I guess I'm just ashamed that comedy like this could have been screened in my adult lifetime.

To be shocked that this was ever ok?! Blackface on Little Britain...
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Boulshired · 10/06/2020 20:10

They didn’t create the stereotypes the stereotypes already existed they just highlighted them. It’s why it’s doesn’t age well as society has moved on, however still as guilty of stereotyping just different ones.

Dollyparton3 · 10/06/2020 20:36

Soooo. Where does Love Island fit into all of this? If that is still continuing after the suicides they've had that are directly related to the impact that the show had on the contestants lives what's the message here?

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2020 20:38

@Dollyparton3

Soooo. Where does Love Island fit into all of this? If that is still continuing after the suicides they've had that are directly related to the impact that the show had on the contestants lives what's the message here?
What do you think the message is?
Herewegoagainnn · 10/06/2020 20:39

Pumperthepumper

I did articulate why; it helped me through a period of situational depression. I love the ridiculousness. I could forget about real life!

NeverFit · 10/06/2020 20:39

BAME person here.

Didn't watch the series much, but I would not define the black character as 'blackface'. That term goes to characters such as those in the old Black and White Minstrel Show.

Culture moves on. Some things that are acceptable now will not be acceptable in the future. So I won't be shocked or outraged as some want me to be, like the OP over such things.

What will continue to enrage me about TV shows, is black women's roles. Invariably the roles are played by mixed race women, or a woman whose features are acceptably westernised. This particularly the case for the majority of 'soaps'.

Until we see more representation for 'black' women in roles other than negative ones, as well as the other BAME and other groupings we still have a long way to go.

Having TV adverts with a mixed race family isn't enough. I just see this as a way for advertisers to target the most demographics more cost effectively.

Herewegoagainnn · 10/06/2020 20:44

NeverFit, I agree. I'm black and I wouldn't have called it blackface, either.

keffie12 · 10/06/2020 21:03

I can't stand the program! Never watched it. Seen odd clips in advertising and that was enough. It did so many people emotional harm, with the stereo typing, re including the disabled and sick. Ghastly just ghastly

FreakStar · 10/06/2020 21:07

Hurray @NeverFit Finally, a voice of reason!

randomer · 10/06/2020 21:08

I think this inniative will masively backfire and play right into the hands of thick racists..... " they are taking away our Tv programmes"

FreakStar · 10/06/2020 21:08

I'm watching Benidorm! Now that is funny- I'm sure there'll be plenty find it offensive though.

Raaaa · 10/06/2020 21:10

@FreakStar it will probably be taken down soon because of Lesley Grin

FreakStar · 10/06/2020 21:11

I was almost offended by Springwatch a few minutes ago when Chris Packham referred to a 'A tale of two Titties"

WiddlinDiddlin · 10/06/2020 21:20

Whilst looking back the comedy hasn't aged well and is certainly in some places, very cheap..

I don't think it was racist, of course my opinion as a white person there counts for very little..

They didn't use white actors to play black characters on purpose, they played ALL the characters themselves, black, white, female, male...

I don't think it was offensive from a disabled persons POV either, and my opinion there does count - I do a mean Andy impression whenever I think someone is staring at me and particularly if someones pushing me... it makes people think twice!

Little Britain played on stereotypes and tried to take the piss out of all of them, and it did that, and it made us look at stereotypes and realise how ridiculous some of them are.

Are we now to deny that stereotypes exist, and exist for a reason, because humans do need to categorise people and will always do so, and because there is some truth to every stereotype somewhere?

Stereotypes are not a bad thing - refusing to realise we've stereotyped someone wrongly, judging and basing decisions on that snap judgement when faced with evidence to the contrary.. those things are whats bad.

As far as Lou and Andy goes, Andy sat in a wheelchair and Lou assumed he was disabled, as far as I know, Andy never actually said he was - the joke for me is not Andy, it's Lou who made assumptions and has never actually questioned them.

ITonyah · 10/06/2020 21:21

Apparently Netflix have removed League of Gentlemen.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2020 21:22

Ant and Dec have also released an apology.

Byebye1to1 · 10/06/2020 21:26

Haven’t read all 21 pages but wanted to contribute about sexism that exists in many programmes/ fils and although questioned in real life is just accepted on screen. Someone mentioned Carry On films. Flippantly sexist and still mainstream. Goodness knows what my young girls think of these when they are replayed endlessly on mainstream channels. There’s also blatant racist elements to them thinking about it. Conversely do we have arch these but from a different perspective, ‘Look at what we used to think’ kind of idea??

Rubyupbeat · 10/06/2020 21:26

So aren't films like white chicks or little man offensive? Or is that ok?
What about oliver twist?, Fagan described as an ugly, big nosed devious Jew, and portrayed as such?

Ladywinesalot · 10/06/2020 21:32

Never understood why this was funny and never watched an entire episode.
Just always thought it was a bit skank...

Nousernamehistory · 10/06/2020 21:33

White Chicks is the new 'cancel the check' it seems.

Ladywinesalot · 10/06/2020 21:35

And yeh after Matt Lucas dresses up as an indian child whilst playing the drums on vik & bobs show thought he was a racist piece of shit.
Pre little Britain days...

Byebye1to1 · 10/06/2020 21:40

Not seen white chicks but wife says it’s two black men dressed up as white girls. Not acceptable. Can’t be one way. Many more people examples of this!!! Another thread I think?!

Nousernamehistory · 10/06/2020 21:41

@Byebye1to1

White people can't experience racism so it's absolutely not the same thing. It's been explained multiple times, both on this thread and others.

Ladywinesalot · 10/06/2020 21:45

Love how the racist apologists cone out when protecting their racist propaganda: Little Britain

stopmoaning4567 · 10/06/2020 21:45

Do you not have anything better to do than moan about a TV show made years ago?

Haenow · 10/06/2020 21:48

@stopmoaning4567

Do you not have anything better to do than moan about a TV show made years ago?
@stopmoaning4567

Do you not having anything better to do that moan about people moaning about a TV show made years ago? :)