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BLM defunding of the police.

79 replies

Kitmerow · 09/06/2020 17:16

AIBU to think that the majority of people would agree this is a disastrous idea?

BLM defunding of the police.
BLM defunding of the police.
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silvermantella · 10/06/2020 13:25

@ThrowawayNoKids I have read your post several times now and can't possibly imagine what anyone could possibly be expected to understand from the phase:

"I’m sorry but I disagree, it is simply that most do not carry guns. There have been similar incidences in the UK."

Other than "the only reason more black people aren't short by the police in the UK is simply because most police in the UK don't carry guns."

If you meant anything else by this I would be interested to understand because you explained it very poorly. People can only respond to what you actually put on the page, not what you meant in your head.
And how was my experience about gun training of police in the UK when you brought up police having guns in the UK first?

I don't disagree that police use force disproportionately against black people in either country. I do disagree that if we only introduced guns in this country our levels of black people killed by the police would increase greatly - because our police are trained to use all weapons as a last resort whereas those in the US, as seen in the multiple videos that have come out of the protests in the last few weeks, have been trained to use severe violence as their first option, against black, white, old, young...any people.

I agree with the previous poster who said 'defund' the police is not the correct terminology if what is actually meant is 'not increase police funding and give more money to other preventative causes.' To me 'defund' means take away money. I am sure the police themselves would be ecstatic at the prospect of not having to deal with the wide variety of mental health and social issues that constant cuts to social support have meant they have become responsible for...becoming the default 'last resort' safe holding space for individuals with serious mental health issues because social services and hospitals have both refused to accept them was not what they signed up to.

HistoryKitty · 10/06/2020 13:33

[quote SpringSpringTime]@YerAWizardHarry I'm sure police could get different jobs. They have lots of transferrable skills, like losing rape kits, looking the other way while your colleagues kick the crap out of a black kid, and falsifying reports.

Maybe every single cop wouldn't do these things but I'm sure they'd cover for their colleagues if they did. After all, they're members of the biggest gang in the world.

I'm sorry your son is being bullied but the police in the UK have done nothing to inspire confidence, and a great deal to damage their reputation. It's not a niche opinion. I'm a middle class white lady and I really dislike them.[/quote]
Right. So no intelligent argument from you. Just generalising about people and spreading hate and division. Got it.

knittingaddict · 10/06/2020 14:07

It's not a niche opinion. I'm a middle class white lady and I really dislike them.

Spring I'm also a middle class white woman, also middle aged. A few years ago I would have fully supported the police, but then my interactions with them had been minimal. My last interaction a few years ago was an eye opener. The police officer was rude, nasty and obviously on a power trip.

A relative reported domestic abuse to the police. The individual police officers were ok and believed her, but their actions made prosecution almost impossible. They didn't remove the computer, phone or hard drive from the man involved and they knew that's where most of the evidence would be. They asked for his phone almost a year later. What a surprise that he no longer had it. Angry

Maybe I've watched too much tv and am very naive abut what the police actually do.

SpringSpringTime · 10/06/2020 14:42

@knittingaddict it was actually the student demos back in 2012 that did it for me. I saw a policeman pretend-humping a student in front of a line of protesters in an effort to provoke them. It was a horrible, misogynistic demonstration of power.

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