To be horrified and heart broken by the Frankie Macritchie case

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Frankie Macritchie dog attack death: Mum Tawnee Willis jailed www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-52939564

I think the mother will be haunted by her actions for the rest of her life but Jesus fucking Christ, I can't believe anyone would think it was a good idea to leave a child alone with any dog, let alone a 7stone bull breed.

I love my dogs and I trust them with my life but there isn't a chance in hell I would leave them with my children for just a minute.

I'm sharing because it's easy to get complacent, especially when you have good natured dogs like mine.

I feel sad for everyone in this sad story but just desperately sad for what that little boy must have gone through that evening, alone.

This is one of those situations where the guilt that the mother will live with for the rest of her life will punish her far more than any prison sentence ever could

You reckon? You think someone that stupid and uncaring will give a shit for long?

She’ll feel sorry for herself for a while, tell herself it wasn’t her fault, come out of prison and probably have more kids.

Vile people. I wouldn’t call that an error of judgement, no. She could not have cared about her son to be so utterly negligent and as someone mentioned earlier, what else was going on there?

This is one of those situations where the guilt that the mother will live with for the rest of her life will punish her far more than any prison sentence ever could, even if it were the maximum tariff available.

Again....why do people assume this.

Plenty of parents are shit. Plenty of parents leave their kids unattended and neglected while they go snort drugs, or go have sex, or get drunk or just hangout at their friends. They don't care about their kids in the same way other people do.

Some people have kid after kid taken off them. They don't have the same attachment with their children.

In short, not everyone is a good parent who loves their children.

Um playing in the street isn't the same as being in a closed space with a large dog with known biting tendencies. And quaffing prosecco isn't the same as taking cannabis and cocaine to the point of passing out.

But why do we assume he's had a shit life up until now? Because of the late night playstation? The caravan? The partying? The dangerous dog?

I'm not denying for one second that there are truly terrible parents out there, but is there anything to suggest in the story that this was a regular thing or that there was other neglect rather than a one off huge error of judgement?

is there anything to suggest in the story that this was a regular thing or that there was other neglect rather than a one off huge error of judgement?

Using cocaine while responsible for a child - that's not 'an error of judgement'

There’s no doubt in my mind that Frankie was a neglected child. This won’t have been a one off. It never is.

@Trevasdick

I don't think "everyone is a good parent who loves their children", and nothing in my post suggested that I do, so I'm not sure where you get that from.

Leaving a child alone with a dangerous dog whilst you get tanked up on wine and coke is fucking obviously not good parenting, clearly. It's a shame I had to spell that out but that's mumsnet for you.

I agree, I have made an assumption that the mother will live with guilt for the rest of her life because this is the most likely scenario, unless she is an actual psychopath. She made a stupid, awful mistake and her kid died in terrible pain because of it. She will always live with that fact, in prison or out of prison.

Yes lota of parents who are wpeefectlt decemt parents....fuck off leaving their child, in a caravan, with a dangerous dog, until the early hours of the morning.....while they snort coke and something went horrible wrong. On this one time this ever happened?

Not even as a one off. Gheres far more chance, the parenting was generally shit. At least. Certainly no indication that she must be devastated and spend the rest of her life feeling guilty.

Why would a caravan be an indication of poor parenting in itself?

I agree, I have made an assumption that the mother will live with guilt for the rest of her life because this is the most likely scenario, unless she is an actual psychopath. She made a stupid, awful mistake and her kid died in terrible pain because of it. She will always live with that fact, in prison or out of prison

Yes, because you have put the emotion you would feel into it if one of your children died.

It wasn't a mistake. It was a series of bad decisions where she put her chance of getting high, above the needs and safety of her child.

I am not judging you. I am simply saying all the people feeling bad for her and her how the guilt will impact her are likely misplacing that sympathy.

Just know that other women in prison WILL know what this woman did. And they will destroy her. People who harm children, directly or indirectly, do not have a good time in prison.

This is bloody awful!!

I can't believe the amount of people who let their dogs run free -then say its fine they wont touch you as you stand terrified,never mind this poor poor boy who has had to be locked up with this dog.

I love dogs but i'm very aware they can turn on you at any time.(not sure all owners think the same)

They left a child alone on holiday whilst they went drinking with friends 🤔🤔, anyone else thinking this is similar to another case?

Yes, they were wrong to leave a child alone, even more wrong to leave a child alone with a dog, a dog that didn’t live with the boy, a dog that had history. I think the sentence was fair, it was a case of neglect that led to the death of a child.

2 years. It's a disgrace. Poor child.

That poor little boy. My ds is 9 and would be so frightened if he was left alone at night like that let alone adding in the fact that he was left with a dangerous dog.

I am glad she is in prison for neglect, it won’t have been the first time he was left alone while his mum went off to get wasted.

That poor boy.

HERE HERE winterwoollies!!

It's heartbreaking, my daughter attends the same school and he has many devastated friends, there's banners up all around Plymouth for his justice.
RIP little man

Lost for words. Poor boy, and poor dog.

Awful things can happen to children when they are left alone while their parents go somewhere else to enjoy themselves. A very famous case is proof of that.

Exactly.

They left a child alone on holiday whilst they went drinking with friends 🤔🤔, anyone else thinking this is similar to another case?

Yes.

It’s awful, poor child x

His “mother” is nothing but a piece of shit.

@Winterwoollies

Just know that other women in prison WILL know what this woman did. And they will destroy her. People who harm children, directly or indirectly, do not have a good time in prison.

Have you ever been in a womens prison? It’s full of women that have had their kids taken off them due to drug abuse.

I suspect a lot of them will have sympathy for her actually. Just like a lot of women have sympathy for another well known mother that left her kids and one is missing presumed dead.

Maybe it’s a class thing ..

The way his nan spoke earlier I definitely gained the impression the mother was a fuckwit.