Is Boris Johnson really racist?

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Something on my fb has popped up and to me it leads to an interesting debate.
Boris can be a pain, has had a privileged life and appears to look very pale white. However given his ancestry and that of his wife that he has had 4 children can he really be labelled as racist?

Moonmelodies, he's got to, in the name of diversity. Men who sexually bully women at work, often surround themselves with token 'strong' women, they throw in a really attractive one as well, as cover.

“But he has Muslim women in his ancestry so does that make a difference?”

Why would that make any difference?

Didn't he made some comment in the last couple of weeks about 'sherpa work' - when asked to appear before a committee he didn't want to have to prepare to answer questions at? I.e that it was dull and beneath him and he didn't have the time or inclination to do it.

I don't believe he is fundamentally racist, but he has learned in his upper class upbringing that it's okay to talk like that,. I'm sure he knows better now. I hope so anyway because that is not ok.

His ancestry makes no difference, it's his behaviour that counts. Why do some people have to go out of their way to find acceptable reasons or excuses for others' racist behaviour and language? He's racist. He says foul things, whether that's to be 'noticed' or 'controversial' or 'entertaining' doesn't take away from the fact he says them. He's racist, amongst other things.

Yes. HTH.

Can't see the need to ask in here, when his racist comments were made publicly and are easily searchable on the internet. I suppose if anyone wants to take pleasure in reading his racist remarks or may want black posters to be upset by seeing them listed, it's a good enough start tho.

Was this supposed to be news to us or something? I thought his ethic background was well known.

Yes. Also the pope practises Catholicism and ursine creatures defecate in areas featuring lots of trees.

Yes, he really is a racist. We know this because he publicly says racist things. Calling black people picaninnies is so unequivocally racist that I can’t see why anyone would need to debate the point.
He benefits from and misuses every sort type of privilege.
He lies too.

To be honest, Boris is so privileged, his prejudices know no bounds.

This.

Stop with the wide-eyed faux-naivety, OP.

Here are the things he's said which to my mind make him a racist prejudiced person.

On a human level, Boris is actually quite an unpleasant character.

Of course he’s racist, unfortunately I think that’s actually won him a lot of support rather than cost him, particularly with a lot of the Brexit folk. Some of my own family members find his racist comments amusing and applaud him for being “non-pc”.

Sometimes I get so distracted by his blatant misogyny, class discrimination and incompetency as PM, that I forget he's also racist.

What a catch

Hi ex wife is half Indian so his kids are a quarter Indian.

One telegraph article was about freedom of religious expressions and free speech. He is a social liberal and he was defending the right for women to wear what they want. (Other EU countries had banned the hijab). He combined it with free speech.

The other telegraph article was about Tony Blair and his foreign policy attitude. Basically slating Tony Blair. To put it in context the article was written before the Iraq war. So slating Tony Blair and his attitude. It’s a scathing article and I don’t understand why people read it but don’t understand that Tony Blair didn’t suddenly out of the blue make one mistake with Iraq.

You can google them and read them. They are long - don’t stop half way.

I would criticise him for being so liberal it’s off the scale. But not racism. Also I would criticise his nature to make a joke a bit too often.

The third telegraph article I have no idea. 1997? I can hardly read the image of it. I don’t know what was in the news at the time. I went to the ministry of sound in the 90’s and I still have no idea why he mentioned it. I know Peter Mandelson was controversial. It’s a very short article.

That's actually what's so scary Elsiebear90, same with Trump. What on earth is going through people's minds voting these people in to power?

Reactionary fools are taking over. It's worse than a horror film.

@Elsiebear90

Yes his bumbling fool act, teamed with his un-PC comments have convinced a lot of people he is not a very dangerous man. He's cherry picked the bits of Nigel Farage that people liked, and made it main stream.

Sorry burka had been banned.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/05/denmark-has-got-wrong-yes-burka-oppressive-ridiculous-still/

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3571742/If-Blairs-so-good-at-running-the-Congo-let-him-stay-there.html

I can’t find a good link for the third one.

“Hi ex wife is half Indian so his kids are a quarter Indian.”

And?

All his wives have been women, doesn’t seem to stop him being a misogynist either...

Maybe he's not deeply racist, maybe he's just found a simple way to get the racist vote. He's just using racism as a tool in his arsenal to gain popularity. It's not that he hates BAME people per se, or not anymore than he hates women or plebs, but other people are just pawns to him. The little pieces. He might get some BAME rooks or knights, but they aren't the players they are still pieces on the board for him to manipulate

Those BAME cabinet members are window dressing.

Are all BAME appointments just tokenism as far as you're concerned? Perhaps you have trouble believing they could be talented, qualified, intelligent enough to do well in important jobs. There's a word to describe that kind of stereotyping............

Please don't dismiss the achievements of people who've worked hard to succeed just to present someone else in a bad light.

"All his wives have been women, doesn’t seem to stop him being a misogynist either..."

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