Is it just white people who object to the protests?

[malificent7]

I am white...i support the protests...several of my white friends are horrified by them. Are any non whites against them and if so why?
Aibu to feel that the incensed are scared of loosing their white priveledge or feelings of supremacy?

Support productive responses, localised to the issues in one's own country, to the problem of systemic racism.

Did not support urban mass gatherings.

Do not support violence, property destruction or other forms of unlawful behaviour.

Support police and prison reform. Do not support police or prison abolition.

Have a mixed race kid who stayed home to protect his dad (of colour).

Speaking generally, some people object to any form of protest, demo or strike, it makes no difference to them what the cause is. And it makes no difference if it's completely peaceful.

I know teachers, nurses and other healthcare workers who would never strike. Not because they disagree with the objectives, just because it's against their ideology.

I'm black and do not support violence and riots for any cause!

I did imagine a few parents and grannies might object to their youngsters risking covid and getting caught up in violence and vandalism, maybe its because i have a houseful of young adults that i immediately imagined arguments!

How I am glad to even read the title of your thread OP! Everybody is entitled to have a say. But times like this really revel people’s true colours. Such as a horse being compared to a life. People standing together and raising infection rates. Bull*

Were you all worried for the nurses and Drs on the frontline with no PPE. What about the shops opening up next week is this not going to cause infection rate to climb. Some people need to wake up and see the bigger picture. There’s reasons why the government are all too happy to sit back and let this chaos divert us from the real life issues. The way some non ethnic people are so one sided and obtuse because they haven’t been personally affected is unacceptable and a disgrace.

I don’t remember the public up in arms while the nurses and Drs are saving life and having to send our kids to school who are also at risk. As soon As it comes to BLM they are concerned about infection rates and there’s threads upon threads.

Oh fuck off!

I don't want the protests because we are in the middle of a deadly pandemic, one which disproportionately affects BAME people. Masks and social distancing are not being upheld.

Wait until it's all over then protest peacefully.

We have a right to protest, and we should if it's justified (which it is, if people feel it is) just do it safely!

Er, i think you will find people were up in arms about health and front line workers not having PPE, there was a lot of effort put into making scrubs and visors and masks and endless articles and threads and social media posts.
Not everybody is keen on shops reopening but they will be opening with systems in place to minimise risk, not the same as a demo that could easily get out of control.

I'm black. I support the protests but not the violence.

Were you all worried for the nurses and Drs on the frontline with no PPE

Yep. Family members fall into this category. Did you read the coronavirus board? All the above covered, and more.

There are reasonable differences of opinion about how to respond to injustice in the middle of a pandemic. For example, BLM Seattle deferred their right to protest because of Covid19 infection rates in the area.

@Wbeezer

Er, i think you will find people were up in arms about health and front line workers not having PPE, there was a lot of effort put into making scrubs and visors and masks and endless articles and threads and social media posts. Not everybody is keen on shops reopening but they will be opening with systems in place to minimise risk, not the same as a demo that could easily get out of control.

Errr

So shops are opening before the schools are opening GREAT. I mean fully opening..... and NO actual the nation wasn’t up in arms to this extent about the on going issues

Absolutely the shops will be opening up merely based on an economy basis not a bloody demo.

We can buy clothes but have to take them home to try them on and then if we need to return them we go back to the shop. Fantastic idea a lot of thought has been put into that one!!

I think that peaceful protests are actually more powerful, surely the protesters could have been given a set time to kneel (with social distancing) give a 2 minute silence, then respectfully go home. Why haven't the organisers arranged that (are their organisers? I m not sure ) What are the protests setting out to do? Change laws? I imagine that a majority (certainly on here) completely support a protest but when corona is stopping families from meeting up, I don't understand why demonstrations are allowed.

@Melia100

Were you all worried for the nurses and Drs on the frontline with no PPE

Yep. Family members fall into this category. Did you read the coronavirus board? All the above covered, and more.

There are reasonable differences of opinion about how to respond to injustice in the middle of a pandemic. For example, BLM Seattle deferred their right to protest because of Covid19 infection rates in the area.

No as I have been rather busy looking after the COVID and I’m BAME!!

People globally have been concerned about lack of PPE for nurses. It's not a new thing.

And reasonable people can differ on whether mass urban protests at this time are a good idea without one of those people wanting to institute a white homeland.

I am shocked you are so surprised OP. I would have thought better if you. All the reasons posters list are completely reasonable. Your original thought as to why they weren't supportive is odd.

I'm white. I don't support the protests. I would normally because I'm happy for anyone to peacefully protest, and I know we have Racism issues in the UK that for need to be addressed.

But not peaceful - throwing a bike at a horse? And worse still not distancing in a pandemic?
No. Not so much.

I usually support protest but seems to me that it’s not a great idea during a pandemic. Also I don’t support violence or destruction of property. So I don’t think that as anything to do with white supremacy (FYI I am “white” but from ME/Eastern European background.)

@Melia100

People globally have been concerned about lack of PPE for nurses. It's not a new thing.

And reasonable people can differ on whether mass urban protests at this time are a good idea without one of those people wanting to institute a white homeland.

No it’s not a new thing. But if you were a nurse you wouldn’t be casually saying that.... it’s not new no. It is on going.

Just like the race issue has been on going for years. Just because you can’t relate doesn’t give you the right to shame others, as it’s beneficial to ethnic minorities.

Giving my opinion on mass urban protests in a pandemic - otherwise known as the reason I did not attend because the family member in my home, who is of colour, is immuno-compromised - is not shaming anyone.

@Melia100

Giving my opinion on mass urban protests in a pandemic - otherwise known as the reason I did not attend because the family member in my home, who is of colour, is immuno-compromised - is not shaming anyone.

Are people still using those lines in 2020 Wow.

That doesn’t mean anything and you know it. They will be the same people shouting “they are taking out jobs” “get back to your own Country” (yet I was born here and so were both my parents too).

Who will be shouting those lines?

No-one shouts them at my house.

Not sure why you're quoting me, tbh.

@sweetlikecoca - we have rules in society that apply to everyone and are for everyone’s benefit eg (Atm) social distancing and no violence and destruction of property. I would disagree that breaking those rules is “beneficial” for anyone including “Ethnic minorities”.

Also you do know Coca isn’t sweet right? It’s actually quite bitter. Or is that deliberate?

“Are people still using those lines in 2020 Wow.

That doesn’t mean anything and you know it. They will be the same people shouting “they are taking out jobs” grin “get back to your own Country” (yet I was born here and so were both my parents too).”

WTAF? What on earth are you talking about? I think it’s not coca you’ve been at but glue.

Has anyone posted this yet?

fullfact.org/online/blm-protest-london-pictures/?fbclid=IwAR06muxy9G8p3238CeBoP9X14v3Kp3Lp3aMRcPynOJg167ivg1j5D_NEdac

Black friends are generally horrified and think that the violence does the cause of equality no good. As far a statuegate, it's history, we may not like them but can we all have statues removed because they don't suit our agenda?

@malificent7 why didn’t you ask your friends who are horrified by them why?

[quote CayrolBaaaskin]@sweetlikecoca - we have rules in society that apply to everyone and are for everyone’s benefit eg (Atm) social distancing and no violence and destruction of property. I would disagree that breaking those rules is “beneficial” for anyone including “Ethnic minorities”.

Also you do know Coca isn’t sweet right? It’s actually quite bitter. Or is that deliberate?[/quote]
Have a day off love.

The social distancing and lock down is an absolute disgrace.
Shops are opening, children are not back in school and there’s no plan. Please just don’t tell me about rules when Borris and Dominic don’t follow themselves.

I suspect they will be a lot of people out of a job.. you sound like Borris yourself