I'm a size 16 and I think I'm pretty hot

[MermaidApocalypse]

Just to even out the fat shaming on another thread. I'm a size 14-16. I can still fit in jeans I wore in sixth form college, I've always been this way. I have stayed a similar size through physical jobs, sedentary jobs, two pregnancies, breastfeeding, having a personal trainer, driving and sitting at a desk all day. I think that for some of us this is our healthy size.
Despite this I have to acknowledge the science, excess calories minus insufficient exercise does cause weight gain. Saying that my GP isn't worried as I've not gained weight in a short space of time, I've stayed the same for 16 years. I did once get down to a 12 but I had to try so hard, 18 hour fasts, exercise four days a week. I know women who stay at a 12 doing sweet F.A!

The things that I hate hearing are that people who are a size 14 to 18 are unhealthy. My previous job was being the manager of a health food shop. I lifted boxes of dried pulses, nuts, oats all day every day. Twice a week the delivery van used to park two streets down and we would have to carry 40+ boxes back to the shop and up the stairs to the storeroom. Do you know how many skinny people couldn't do that, even once? I can lift 25kg without much effort, if the tits didn't get in the way, I'd make a good weightlifter!

OP don’t you know the rules?
You cannot be happy and fat.
You must hang your head in shame while agreeing that we’ve forgotten what thin looks like (despite the fact that Karen likes to tell us all on a fucking loop).

@HelloMissus 😂😂😂👏🏻

There are some weird misconceptions on here. For a start, dress size is a stupid measure to base this on, as the key thing is whether your BMI is healthy or not. Also, this idea that a tall woman has to be at least a size 14 or she's underweight - wtf?

I'm 5'10", and a size 10. I am also slap bang in the middle of the 'healthy' range for BMI. I'm not 'skinny' ( what a ridiculous word to use for anyone who isn't 'curvy', another ridiculous word), I'm just a normal and healthy weight for my height.

At a size 12, I fall towards the top of the healthy BMI range, and at a 14 I would be overweight.

Unless someone is REALLY, REALLY tall, size 16 and above is highly unlikely to represent a healthy BMI.

Apparently on MN, you are skinny if you come within the healthy BMI range.

This is the madness of the world

*OP don’t you know the rules?
*You cannot be happy and fat.

You have misread. The suggestion made by OP is that you can be overweight and healthy, which we all know not to be true. You can, of course, be happy, but that won't be much help when your physical health starts to decline long before it's time.

You must hang your head in shame while agreeing that we’ve forgotten what thin looks like (despite the fact that Karen likes to tell us all on a fucking loop).

Ah, another bandwagon jumper. Using 'Karen' in the way you have really does nothing towards showing you have anything remotely worthwhile saying. It's really stupid. Maybe call people cunts instead 🤷🏻‍♀️

@ClientQ I read a post from an anaesthesiologist on another thread saying that hospital beds often have built-in scales these days, so maybe they weighed you without you realising. I believe they'd need to know your weight to do the anaesthesia.

OP don’t you know the rules? You cannot be happy and fat.

You can be happy in the same way someone with high cholesterol or type 2 diabetes or any other predictor of premature death can be happy. But its a bit strange to be happy because you have one of those things.

@Floatyboat we're all going to die, might as well spend our time on earth being happy in our own skin, eating enchiladas, dancing in the kitchen to salsa and drinking the odd glass of wine. Some of you lot seem like you need a bit more joie de vivre to be honest.

They can’t calculate your anaesthesia needs accurately without your weight. It’s on all standard pre assessment forms. Over a certain bmi, NICE guidance states additional risk must be explained before consent is sort.

You can find joy in things that aren’t food you know.

@FuckinGoddess how condescending is that really?

@m0therofdragons that's interesting - I remember really clearly all of it and I was never asked or weighed! Wonder what BMI it is, mine would have been definitely over 30 when I had the op
My pre op was MRSA swabs, and I had my BP done and some questions about meds
Op day I was first down to theatre, on the table and under anaesthetic. I'm not obviously saying it's not more risky over a certain BMI in general but they had absolutely no concerns over mine (I asked if I would fit in the MRI scanner and they laughed at me)

[quote MermaidApocalypse]@Floatyboat we're all going to die, might as well spend our time on earth being happy in our own skin, eating enchiladas, dancing in the kitchen to salsa and drinking the odd glass of wine. Some of you lot seem like you need a bit more joie de vivre to be honest.[/quote]
And I do this. But I'm not overweight.

Not all slim people are miserable fuckers, even if it would suit some people's narratives that we are.

@ClientQ, I was weighed at pre-op when I had a shoulder op, along with the MRSA swabs.

I love Mexican food, im a bit too lazy to dance in the kitchen but I definitely have more than the odd glass of wine - im still a size 8- 10. Some really strange comparisons and statements being used defensively.

we're all going to die, might as well spend our time on earth being happy in our own skin

Well exactly. I was not happy in my skin when I was overweight, the rolls and gut were neither pretty to look at, nor comfortable to lug around. With some effort, I'm much happier in my skin. And yes, in my case it's constant effort, I'm not a naturally slim person so I have to watch what I eat and work out - but it does not mean my life is miserable. It's just a part of life, l similarly need to keep practicing if I want to be able to play piano or keep my French fluent.

I’m a size 10/12 I’m in my 60’s.......I’m pretty hot too. Is there a prize?

we're all going to die, might as well spend our time on earth being happy in our own skin, eating enchiladas, dancing in the kitchen to salsa and drinking the odd glass of wine. Some of you lot seem like you need a bit more joie de vivre to be honest

Honestly, it sounds like you’re suggesting people who are in shape and watch what they eat are all miserable fuckers.

I’m much happier now I’m in good enough shape to propel myself for miles and miles around the beautiful outdoors using my own steam. When I was overweight, I was still very active, but I get even more enjoyment out of exercise now I am in better shape. I am more motivated and full of energy. This enjoyment makes me want to continue to put good fuel in my body.

I also enjoy my food much more, rather than when I used to just shovel junk food in sideways without appreciating it. I eat Mexican food often and drink wine when I fancy.

For some reason we are allowed to be aghast when people ruin their bodies with drugs and cigarettes. But it’s all about enjoying life when they are tanking huge amounts of unhealthy food and not exercising.

Let’s face it, we are all going to die, but if we look after our bodies, we stand a chance of enjoying life for a bit longer.

Still do all the fun stuff just don’t shove crisps and biscuits in my mouth every day (Just weekends) as I was doing. Feel much better for it and being 2 stone lighter is far more life enhancing than eating junky snacks daily.

@MsTSwift I reckon I've ate about two packets of crisps in 6 months. We're not all the same.

Good for you 🙄
Crisps and biscuits were my downfall. Reduced them and reduced portion sizes and exercised more. Hardly living a miserable monastic life.

Annoying when people infer that you a jolly life and soul of the party type if you are overweight and a miserable self denying fun sucker if you are slim

The miserable slim person is as annoying and inaccurate a trope as the miserable fat person.

[quote MermaidApocalypse]@MsTSwift I reckon I've ate about two packets of crisps in 6 months. We're not all the same.[/quote]
And yet you seem to be implying that all slim people lead miserable lives. 🤔🤔🤔

Crisps and biscuits were my downfall.

Mine too! My pal prefers cheese. We all have our poison.

I still eat all of these things, but realising that I was eating quantities that were too big was what helped me get into better shape.

MermaidApocalypse, I don’t want to patronise, but you seem at great pains to say you eat brilliantly and exercise but are still overweight. I’ve been there, convinced myself I was just meant to be chunky because I did exercise more than most people around me and I did eat healthily.

I’ve just realised that I should have been eating more healthily and exercising a bit harder.

Annoying when people infer that you a jolly life and soul of the party type if you are overweight and a miserable self denying fun sucker if you are slim

Exactly, I have much more fun now I'm not lugging extra weight around with me, or having to wear clothes that look flattering on my body rather than what I want to wear and feel confident. The food I eat is genuinely more tasty too, I used to heavily associate food with being a reward, being needed to have a good time; now I actually enjoy it because it is just food, not something that controls my life.