Is there any thing I can sign up for to annoy a racist?

[MrsPeacockInTheLibrary]

I have a deeply annoying, racist former colleague. They have a lot of power and influence over others.

Is there a charity I can donate to in their name? Or an organisation I can sign up to for them to receive mail at their company?

I remember people donated in the name of Mike Pence in the news.

Yes, I know what I am doing is unreasonable or petty. It makes me as bad as them, I know. I'm just angry and frustrated they won't be held to account.

It's obviously something that still rankles with you. Would you consider writing to her? You could even do it anonymously, explaining to her how offensive she is and how unacceptable her view is. You could also send a screenshot of a donation you have made in her name.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/06/05/anti-racism-charities-can-donate-money-12811363/amp/

Make a donation to an anti racist charity. Some in the link above. But don’t mention this colleague. If she’s done something illegal then report it to the police. If she has flouted discrimination rules that the company has, then report her to the company.

Not always an option. That's why I do it this way, at a safe distance.

Why?

I didn't say racism is subjective.
I said what different people find offensive is

You do realise this makes no sense and is hypocritical? Racism IS offensive. So by your logic if someone shouts the N word at a black person, it's obviously subjective based on the victim being offended by it? In this instance the shouter is being racist using a derogatory term, which therefore means that in your opinion racism is subjective.

if someone shouts the N word at a black person, it's obviously subjective

Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you actually that stupid.

No, the N word is catagorically racist.
Harry Potter is not, being concerned about protests at the moment is not.
That is where I'd say those things are subjective.

Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you actually that stupid.

Asks the person who is suggesting racism is subjective. Clearly, you aren't able to actually answer my question so instead you result to personal insults, how intelligent and mature of you. So then please answer, that if someone is offended by being called the N word, is that subjective?

Asks the person who is suggesting racism is subjective

For the 5th time, I didn't say racism was subjective. I said what is or isn't deemed as offensive is subjective. You might find something offensive that I don't, or vice versa.

Clearly, you aren't able to actually answer my question

Except I did answer that question. No, the N word is not subjective, it is racist. But from some of the accusations I've seen this week of what is racist which I've listed several times, I was just wondering what the OPs colleague had done.

Jesus.

You are spectacularly missing the point @022828MAN
I'm referring to institutionalised racism and systemic racism which by your logic wouldn't be considered as racism as its not blatant and can't exactly be proved in an obvious way. Just a little tip, just because racism isn't blatant doesn't mean its not racism.

No, you're missing the point. I was talking to OP, I asked what her colleague had done. It literally had nothing to do with you or your point. You've chimed in on my comment telling me what I apparently think. Unless you're the OP or know what her colleague has done then why are you even bothering to carry this on? I'm not the only person to ask for an example. So seriously, take a step back and take a deep breath.

Nah I'm good. I'm am involved because as a BAME member I think it's important to challenge those who are against anti-racism. You obviously don't like to be challenged on your viewpoints so I'll leave you to it. But I am guessing the OP's colleague had more subtle but still racist remakes which you will claim aren't racist as they aren't blatant.

Anyways, enjoy your evening

But I would highly reccomend you take a step back, check your privaledge and educate yourself.

But I would highly reccomend you take a step back, check your privaledge and educate yourself

That's not really a very helpful response is it. Someone is asking what the colleague has done. Their behaviour may have been racist. Or they may not have been. Your replies are nonsensical. If you want to make change, unfounded accusations are not going to get you very far.

I'm out. I should have known better than trying to discuss racism on Mumsnet. So many threads on the issue have been deleted due to racism, sadly mumsnet is just not the demographic to discuss these issues. Gonna hide the thread now.

You don't discuss though grey, you just accuse people with no substance behind it. It's good to discuss. It's not good to shout racist at people without listening and trying to understand what they have to say. Change will never happen if you do that. People will get pissed off and nothing will change. But flounce if you want to.

@Tianalia

But I would highly reccomend you take a step back, check your privaledge and educate yourself

That's not really a very helpful response is it. Someone is asking what the colleague has done. Their behaviour may have been racist. Or they may not have been. Your replies are nonsensical. If you want to make change, unfounded accusations are not going to get you very far.

Given the kind of stuff currently being posted across the boards, people are twisting themselves into knots trying to avoid accusations of racism, and I would bet that the OP is correct in her assessment of her former colleague being racist. It's good old white privilege rearing it's head again.

And to the people questioning the protests at this time, black people are allowed to decide whether the protests mean more to them than the health risks. I've met a good number of people from the BAME community who have said the protests are more important to them, that they are protesting in the hope of changing the future. It's their right to make that choice.

She might be right multi, but she might not be. I have no idea. The op didn't want to talk about that. I do know that shouting at people won't change anything. Real change can only be brought about by proper discussion. And signing up someone to have leaflets delivered to their business isn't going to do anything at all. Apart from get people annoyed. If you want to change peoples ideas it needs to be done in a calmer more rational way. Shouting racist at people will make no difference. Calling them white supremacists closes down conversation. Only debate and calmly challenging people will get them to think about things. And if questions sound stupid, then answer them rationally. Try and get people to see. The doorway has been opened now. And people want to listen. But shouting at people and getting annoyed without actually saying something that can be understood increases the likelihood of it getting slammed shut again.

Well I don't agree with you smile. Theres a huge opportunity now of people wanting to listen.

Just whistleblow

"Not always an option. That's why I do it this way, at a safe distance.

Why?"

Because the sexist, racist, tight-arsed neglectful parent I described is an unpleasant man? Pretty obvious, I'd have thought!

Why is it for me to teach you

I'm not asking you to teach me thanks 😂

To add do you feel it is incumbent on you to educate men about sexism?

Oh yes, I talk to them about it if they're willing to listen and understand my point of view.

Because the sexist, racist, tight-arsed neglectful parent I described is an unpleasant man? Pretty obvious, I'd have thought!

Not really, otherwise I wouldn't have asked. But thanks for explaining. It might be the right thing to do in that scenario. But when it comes to challenging racism then I think it's better to try and talk.