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To ask for your experiences after a traumatic first birth

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CrayonedWalls · 08/06/2020 13:22

I’d love your support/virtual hand hold on a question I’ve been asking myself for a little while, relating to a second child after a traumatic first delivery.

Two years ago, I had my first child, a little boy. He is awesome, so much of parenthood has been a total joy with him so far and we are lucky to have him.

I had a straightforward pregnancy with him and was active throughout. However, birth was a totally different story. Due to reduced fetal movement he was induced. I won’t go into too much detail but suffice to say - fetal distress, episiotomy, enormous blood loss, horrific delivery in theatre and some pretty bad birth injuries for me to this day.

Of course, I feel very grateful that we walked out of hospital with both of us alive, but the effect on my body has been lasting.

I’ve been to the GP several times (GP pretty dismissive) for both the physical and mental distress and received some counselling. No one has at any point said it would be risky to have another baby.

I’m now 32. Right now the thought of having another child frightens me. To be clear - I’m not traumatised by the hospital experience I had the first time around, I have made my peace with that. But my body is changed forever down there, and I’m concerned about the additional effect a second baby might have. I’m not sure the healthcare professionals I’ve seen have taken me seriously - they’ve basically brushed off the concerns l have about what would happen if I had to go through labour again.

I smile through my friends’ conversations about breathing the baby out, their neat Caesarian scars, how perfect it all was...then I go home and cry. I’m pleased for them but I feel birth injury is a massive unspoken subject that women are just expected to put up with as part of motherhood.

I’d love to hear from anyone who has been in my position and went on to have other children. How did you come to the decision, and did you approach your midwife appointments differently second time around? Did you have an elective section?

I’d also love to hear from anyone who’s been here and who decided to stop trying for any more children. Right now that’s what I’m leaning towards - while I’d love two children I already have a great one, DH is entirely supportive of whatever I decide, and I’m not sure I can put my body through any more.

Your advice and experiences are really appreciated.

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BlueBooby · 09/06/2020 01:13

I’d also love to hear from anyone who’s been here and who decided to stop trying for any more children. Right now that’s what I’m leaning towards - while I’d love two children I already have a great one, DH is entirely supportive of whatever I decide, and I’m not sure I can put my body through any more.

I am in this position. It's not my only reason for not wanting another child, but it was really the ruling factor in my decision to stick with one.

Nat6999 · 09/06/2020 02:01

I had pre eclampsia, induction failed at nearly 60 hours, emcs, massive pph, they had to get someone to mop the floor before they could take me to recovery, ds was born at 6.22pm, in high dependency, husband & my mum went home at 8.00pm, during the night I got hellp, my liver & kidneys started failing, I had blood transfusions & god knows what drugs pumped in me, spent two days off my face on drugs unable to get out of bed, then dumped in a room on post natal ward with very little care, discharged myself 4 days after birth as I wasn't getting looked after. Had no birth reflections meeting, was very poorly at home , my bp was still dangerously high & if it wasn't for my amazing GP at the time would have ended up back in hospital, he treated me at home & pushed the boundaries of how high he would let my bp go & the doses of medication he gave me. I had horrific pnd, was suicidal & later diagnosed with PTSD. Got pregnant several times after but miscarried at 8, 9, 11 & 16 weeks, my body made it's mind up that I wasn't having another baby. Ds is 16 now & I still have nightmares about his birth.

zoobaby · 09/06/2020 05:40

CrayonedWalls, it sounds like you've had a horrific time. I can empathise as I also had a traumatic birth first time around, and I was very fortunate to have a positive second delivery.

It's so difficult to hear other women talk about their textbook deliveries knowing what you've been through. Also their lack of comprehension, or even willingness to listen, would leave me with mouth firmly clamped shut. I would always just try to draw strength from thinking that it didn't matter how DS arrived, just that he was here now.

So, first time around... Induction, episiotomy, forceps, 3rd degree tear, surgical repair in theatre, blood transfusion, blood pressure and pulse problems, stayed in hospital for a week. Fun times indeed. I remember commenting at the time that I understood how women historically died during childbirth.

I was extremely fortunate to recover, however my 2nd pregnancy terrified me. I was in 2 minds, but we decided to go a 2nd time because I'm an only child and I wanted my DS to have a sibling.

I was, however, so frightened of incontinence!

The thing that struck me was how my consultants were dismissive of my fears. I was in hysterical tears at each appointment as the time drew near (fortnightly and then weekly due to gestational diabetes). It was highly embarrassing to me and, while some were helpful, I remember that one consultant almost reacted with eye rolling.They all had differing levels of sympathy and differing opinions about how things would go second time around. Of course they can't give definitive answers, but they need to give you something, like research and statistics. Nothing! I had to find my own information.

I was so happy when one suggested elective caesarian as an option, as the rest were completely stonewalling me. But then, during the following appointment he backtracked.

It was a very confusing and upsetting time!

I always had the thought in my mind that I should just DEMAND a caesar just like countless women on MN recommended. But even still, that didn't give me piece of mind because of an extreme fear of surgery. I'm complicated, I know!

In the end I decided to meet with the head midwife who debriefed me through the notes from last time. She explained the reasons for every decision and she was able to offer alternatives for the next time around. We came up with a plan of things that we could do such as: wireless monitoring (the BEST thing ever - this was 2015 and it was a new-fandangled thing at my hospital); keeping active using the bed and gym ball; getting familiar with the gas and air mouthpiece prior to needing it (a.k.a. vomit-prevention); and the most crucial thing of all, my positioning for the final stage of birth that would most protect the episiotomy scar and prevent/minimise further damage.

That head midwife was true to her word. My notes had everything written in them and the midwife on the day was fully aware of the past and the present recommendations. When the final pushing arrived, I had an extra midwife there (possibly 2, can't recall). They all physically supported my positioning - on the side, right leg (scar side) up in the air type situation - and someone HELD the perineal area to prevent damage.

It was such a positive and empowering birth experience! I did end up with a 2nd degree tear, which was patched up by the Registrar on duty, but I was so elated with the overall experience that I hardly noticed if that makes sense.

We stopped after two DC as I just couldn't risk myself, mainly due to age and gestational diabetes.

Best of luck to you OP!

Pipandmum · 09/06/2020 06:38

Not me but someone I know: small woman, big baby, long drawn out first labour. In the end she was unconscious when they finally got him out. Healed fine eventually. Second baby: similar size and came out easy peasy after two hours.

Minesril · 09/06/2020 07:05

My first was all sorts of fun: induced due to pre eclampsia, third degree tear and episiotomy, PPH. DH broke down in tears after due to all the blood! DS also had to go to NICU for a few days. Couldn't get breastfeeding started and stopped entirely after eight weeks.

Was sure i wouldn't have another. Changed my mind when he was 3.5. I remember the Christmas Eve when he was four, and he was so excited and surrounded by presents, and i was just thinking how much more excited he'd be with a sibling to share it all with.

I had a elcs 11 weeks ago and it was amazing. Very surreal, but very mentally healing! DH said he 'glanced at what was going on but quickly looked away...' I got to cut the cord! Then had skin to skin for two hours while the baby learned to feed, and that's still going great.

I healed really well with both births but i could just be very very lucky.

CrayonedWalls · 09/06/2020 07:21

@OoohTheStatsDontLie what you’ve said is so true. I have a prob 20cm scar that goes all the way into my leg. If I’d done this to my leg in some freak accident and not due to surgery on vagina, would a doctor have made me walk What felt like half a mile down hospital corridors six hours after coming out of surgery just to weigh the baby? Absolutely not!

@Wheresthebiffer2 thank you for writing what you have. It has taken me two years to write what I have, and I still can’t write it all.

@Smurfy23 thank you for sharing and I’m glad you got the positive experience you needed in the end!

@Molocosh I have thought this so many times. For the first six months when I thought I might be permanently incontinent I swore never ever again. I’m not even sure now why I’m thinking about doing it again.

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CrayonedWalls · 09/06/2020 07:29

@OhTheRoses that is just awful 💐 what I’ve learned from this thread is how frighteningly common our experiences are. I’m so sorry for this experience

@BlueBooby thank you for sharing. I wish I had the resolution you had on it. The pressure only comes from inside my own head but I need to make my peace with it yet.

@Nat6999 I’m sorry you’ve had what sounds like a very traumatic experience. It’s not fair.

@zoobaby at this stage it is the incontinence and long lasting issues that I worry the most about. I’ll have a scar anywhere, it wouldn’t bother me - but I’m not sure anyone really talked to me (or frankly gave a shit about) the damage it was doing to me. You sound very brave and also feels like you got some good care in the end.

@Minesril sounds like we had similar first births. I also heal well (always have healed from all cuts etc quickly) and I have no doubt I would do so from an ELCS. 3.5 is probably about the time I’d like to try again too. I also don’t want to leave it too late and unduly stress my body that way either:

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Heidi1976 · 09/06/2020 09:17

My first labour etc sounded very similar to yours OP. I developed PND after it as well. I have made the conscious decision not to risk putting myself through it all again so I'm only having one. It's left me traumatised to be honest.

supercatlady · 09/06/2020 16:53

I had a terrible time when delivering my son 26 years ago, he ended up in SCBU and has a lifelong disability (which it turns out is unrelated). I accidentally fell pregnant when he was 5mths old, and was terrified but felt it was meant to be. I asked for an elective Caesarian, which was agreed straight away.
My daughters birth was so calm and relaxed by contrast, but the pregnancy was very stressful nonetheless.
At some point over the years I realised I was suffering PTSD - I couldn’t watch childbirth on TV and talking about the birth (as you have to do frequently when you have a disabled child) was upsetting.
I had EMDR and it really helped - still not keen to watch one born every minute but I at least I don’t have to leave the room if childbirth crops up in something I’m watching.
Only you can know what’s the right decision for you, but be kind to yourself.

zoobaby · 10/06/2020 00:25
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